#1
Can someone please explain why everyone completely disses dragonforce?

i dont want no crappy responses like cause herman li is a tool or shit like that

and yes i know they accelerate their songs
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Because of idiots like you.
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#5
because none guitarists and guitar hero player are like "oooh dragonforce are the greatest, ive never seen somebody play guitar so well" etc etc which isnt true
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#7
Im not keen on them because they don't play with their heart, only their head.

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i think its because herman li is a tool
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no its beacuse they get -5000 for not being able to play there songs live


This is a fairly widespread rumour that in my experience is completely untrue. I saw them live last year, and they both put on a really good show, and sounded... uhh... how they sound on the ablums, which I was really into at the time, so I'll say they sounded good.

I used to really like them, but now for the most part I find them annoying. I still like some of the slower songs. Valley of the Damned wasn't a bad album, they had things other than "loooool, we play real fast and make video game noises". Inhuman Rampage and Sonic Firestorm... I did like, for about 6-12 months or something. Then I started to find it really, really boring.

Also, while I'm not going to claim that Sam/Li are really bad guitarists from a technical point of view, it seems like they get way more praise from fans than they deserve in that regard.

Finally, the vocals can be pretty hard to take. I didn't really like them even when I was listening to DragonForce alot, and it's probably the main reason I don't listen to the songs of theirs that I do still kind of like more often.

So there's a bunch of reasons that they cop flak.

To each his own though, I suppose. If you like what they're doing, don't let people tell you your opinion is wrong, or stop liking them because it's not cool. Probably important if you listen to any kind of metal, seeing as in all likelyhood the vast majority of people you meet will have no appreciation for it.
#11
Actually they ARE good guitar player, of course they edit their songs in studio (but who doesn't?). Instead of flaming them, why don't you try to play their songs at studio speed, clean and with no errors? I'm sure that you can't too

The fact that their songs are boring and all similar is another story.
#12
Also Sam Totman has the personality of a crusty turd.

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Quote by troubletcat
This is a fairly widespread rumour that in my experience is completely untrue. I saw them live last year, and they both put on a really good show, and sounded... uhh... how they sound on the ablums, which I was really into at the time, so I'll say they sounded good.

I used to really like them, but now for the most part I find them annoying. I still like some of the slower songs. Valley of the Damned wasn't a bad album, they had things other than "loooool, we play real fast and make video game noises". Inhuman Rampage and Sonic Firestorm... I did like, for about 6-12 months or something. Then I started to find it really, really boring.

Also, while I'm not going to claim that Sam/Li are really bad guitarists from a technical point of view, it seems like they get way more praise from fans than they deserve in that regard.

Finally, the vocals can be pretty hard to take. I didn't really like them even when I was listening to DragonForce alot, and it's probably the main reason I don't listen to the songs of theirs that I do still kind of like more often.

So there's a bunch of reasons that they cop flak.

To each his own though, I suppose. If you like what they're doing, don't let people tell you your opinion is wrong, or stop liking them because it's not cool. Probably important if you listen to any kind of metal, seeing as in all likelyhood the vast majority of people you meet will have no appreciation for it.



ok i didnt mean sam, sam is amazing at acoustic

my acoustic fender is named sam beacuse of him
so yeah
but herman, he has alot of dubbing on him,
not saying they suck, there new album is great
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Actually they ARE good guitar player, of course they edit their songs in studio (but who doesn't?). Instead of flaming them, why don't you try to play their songs at studio speed, clean and with no errors? I'm sure that you can't too

The fact that their songs are boring and all similar is another story.



What has it do with us being able to play it clean. They can't play it so why should we. If anyone receives kudo's it's the producer. He's the real artist.

I mean to turn shit guitar playing into insane guitar solo's is the producers work, not herman or sam's work.

And I would like to see footage of stuff played live recently. And dont'say it's shit camera quality, cause there are 1000000 of vids of other players who still sound good on mobile phone camera's.

Unless of course all the dragonforce fans have a shit video camera's, but this coincidence is too big to be true.


If you like their music, not gonna comment on that. To each his own. But that they are "guitar gods" is just not true.

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#15
thers no emotion to there music
im not saying fast stuff has no emotion because if you watch yngwei malmsteem play youll see that its very possible to play fast and still give your music emotional strength
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Quote by xxdarrenxx
What has it do with us being able to play it clean. They can't play it so why should we. If anyone receives kudo's it's the producer. He's the real artist.

I mean to turn shit guitar playing into insane guitar solo's is the producers work, not herman or sam's work.

And I would like to see footage of stuff played live recently. And dont'say it's shit camera quality, cause there are 1000000 of vids of other players who still sound good on mobile phone camera's.

Unless of course all the dragonforce fans have a shit video camera's, but this coincidence is too big to be true.


If you like their music, not gonna comment on that. To each his own. But that they are "guitar gods" is just not true.


They actually produce their own stuff. Just putting that out there...
#17
Quote by stratsrule1990
thers no emotion to there music
im not saying fast stuff has no emotion because if you watch yngwei malmsteem play youll see that its very possible to play fast and still give your music emotional strength

Ever heard of Steve Vai? Listen to his music, then you'll think even Malmsteen's songs have the emotional depth of a horse turd.
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#18
They're trying to hard to be metal.
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#19
Because Inhumane Rampage was just one continious song.... That never ended...

Other then that it's cause they can't play live well, accpet the Keyboard player who's ****in' insane...
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They're trying to hard to be metal.

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#21
Hey hey im new an i av an answer 2 tht question

It's because they are so rediculus and over the top. also the guitarists must have 2 av no social lives to b that gud.

They are very good and the guitarists own but they are jst 2 gd.

That the reason i believe tht evry1 disses thm.

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#22
Quote by Toaster.123
Hey hey im new an i av an answer 2 tht question

It's because they are so rediculus and over the top. also the guitarists must have 2 av no social lives to b that gud.

They are very good and the guitarists own but they are jst 2 gd.

That the reason i believe tht evry1 disses thm.

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#23
Its all the hype they have, i think because of guitar hero.
They're just a band you would listen to for the fun rather than something to listen to seriously.
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I'm sorry, but if I leave this open, i'll be open to the risk of my brain cells disintegrating.

Take it to the Dragonforce thread.
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