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#1
How many people have you heard today say "Well, now that Obama's in, America is totally fucked. I hate my life."

This has bothered me to no end. Shut the fuck up. Your candidate lost. I'm sorry, but Obama is not the end of the world. He isn't a terrorist. He isn't a communist. He's not going to take all of your money.

I think this is what our country needs. I've never seen as much of a celebration for a new president as I did last night. I think Obama is giving people hope for a new future, and pride for being an American.

Is anyone else excited for Obama the next four years?
Are there people here who are the above mentioned whiners who talk about moving to Canada even though they never will?
Did you vote McCain, but are fine with Obama?

Discuss your views.
#4
I'm just tired of those assholes who whine on and on about how Obama will be the end of America and how they're moving. Everyone at my school has no idea why they hate him, they just do.

And I typed that out only after reading one sentence of your post, not the rest, weird how we match up.
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#6
My thoughs...

Obama is pretty radical, I don't like his policies. But the dems didn't pick-up enough seats to have a veto proof majority in congress. So he can't do anything to crazy, so I'm not too worried.

I think it might even be a good thing for the Republican party that Obama won. Republicans are going to have to realize that being a "moderate" does not win elections. And when elections come around people who are actually conservatives (small goverment, non-interventionism, lower taxes) are going to run for office and get it.

Voted for Ron Paul, BTW.
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#7
I haven't heard anybody say those things today.
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#8
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People freaking out in favor of Obama is just as annoying. /thread



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i heard countless times during the election how people would move to canada if mccain won. i do not think that he was the right choice for the country, but ill have to live with it cause there nothing i can do at this point.

i just really think youre in no place to tell right wing people to shut up when the lefties bitched all election about voting for obama.

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#9
a lot of people are also pissed because many black people voted for him just because he was "black" a lot of people voted for him because they wanted a new face on politics. personally i don't like obama that much but both him and mccain had their flaws. but now that he's gonna be president i've learned to deal with it. and i would have voted for ron paul but didnt' want to wast my vote
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People freaking out in favor of Obama is just as annoying. /thread

Yep. It really does go both ways.
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#11
I'm fine with him being black, muslim descent, african, whatever.

I'm not fine with him supporting abortion, wanting to ban the public ownership of guns other than a single shot .22 and shotgun and wanting to bring the troops out of Iraq prematurely.

Thats what I have a problem with.

StupidityEdit: I also have a problem with airheaded teenage girls raving about him winning because he's their messiah or some ****. My Geography teacher mentioned all of his policies versus Mccain's policies and the specific girl in there was shocked. because, racism aside, she supported him because her parents did and because he is black.

People like this are misguided bags of media garbage.
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#12
We got what we deserved. The majority of America voted for Obama, and when they realize he isn't doing what they want him to do, they'll start to bitch about that. There is no perfect candidate. They all have their flaws and we have to deal with it. I personally would have voted for Huckabee.
#13
what i want to know is why do people think he's going to change shit? thats entirely up to our congress and senate
#14
I was not much of an Obama supporter, but for vaaastly different reasons than above I saw him as pretty neoliberal as a centrist in the race- hopefully his less progressive stance on corporatism was merely in fear of alienating the kind of people you describe.

But his opportunism paid off- I'm extremely glad that he beat out McCain. I guess Nader can wait another 4 years.
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#15
Too many people voted for him because he's black, that's a given. I personally think he's too radical, and also because both of my parents work I'll end up in the tax bracket that gets hit really hard when frankly it's going to be really hard to pay for my sibling's college education as it is.

But I am glad that people are happy, for what it's worth. I do believe Obama is a socialist based on what I have read. But it comes down to him being extremely eloquent. The Republicans haven't had an eloquent candidate since Reagan.

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#16
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How many people have you heard today say "Well, now that Obama's in, America is totally fucked. I hate my life."

This has bothered me to no end. Shut the fuck up. Your candidate lost. I'm sorry, but Obama is not the end of the world. He isn't a terrorist. He isn't a communist. He's not going to take all of your money.

I think Obama is giving people hope for a new future, and pride for being an American.

Is anyone else excited for Obama the next four years?


That being said saying the country is ****ed because he does anything is a bit much.

Just because he got elected doesn't mean you have to like him, he has to earn respect like any other president by his actions. Where were you when all those people were bitching about bush winning last election, I saw bumper stickers 2 years after he was elected on cars still.

He said he liked china and sounds like a socialist, no that isn't a communist but it isn't much better.

I think obama told the people what they wanted to hear, now we will see what he does, everyone runs on one thing to get elected then gets elected and decides what they really are going to do.

If anyone is excited about obama getting re-elected in 4 years after not seeing what he does the first 4, they should be banned from voting next election.


ON a personal note I am worried that I may get laid off soon if he puts in his tax plans. With the economy already on the low side the last thing I want is for the small business I work for to get taxed harder and lead to lay offs. I think we are ok right now but if the economy gets any worst + new taxes I am out of a job.
#17
My class had a mock election, and I voted for Ralph Nader; In the real election, I wanted Obama to win, and he did
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#18
Meh, us democrats did the exact same thing when Bush got elected both times. Just let them vent, better that than nursing any sense of bitterness. Let people be pissed for a while its understandable, they'll move on eventually.
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#21
just because the majority thinks Obama will fix out country doesn't mean he can. i sure as hell hope he can, but nothing is certain. i don't mind people being happy or disappointed with the election results, but everyone needs to put their faith in who we have for the next four years.
#22
Candidates are faces for their party. They simply are just the most charismatic, well spoken, and best face for their cabinet and party.

Barack Obama isn't the end of the world. He's a puppet for something huge.
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#24
I was for McCain, then Paul, then McCain, then Mustaine, then Obama, then finally Barr. Here's how I see it as, the ups and the downs:

Downside
Hitler Obama
Charismatic Speaker Charismatic Speaker
Everyone loved him Everyone loves him
Not his parents religion Not his parents religion
Got into power with double- I think you get the point
entendres.

Upside
Obama is a wellspoken person. I think he is going to be GREAT for diplomacy, and truly, he may do good things for the country. Obama is for net neutrality, HOWEVER, Biden is for the RIAA.
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#25
It pissed me off to no end today. It doesn't bother me if people are upset that McCain didn't win and they acually took the time to look at both of their policies and whatnot. You know..the ones that made an EDUCATED decision. The McCain voters that soley based all their opinions on gossip are the ones that pissed me off.

Then again I guess it could be switched around on the side of Obama too. A lot of people voted for him for wrong reasons.

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Quote by cjblack532
I was for McCain, then Paul, then McCain, then Mustaine, then Obama, then finally Barr. Here's how I see it as, the ups and the downs:

Downside
Hitler Obama
Charismatic Speaker Charismatic Speaker
Everyone loved him Everyone loves him
Not his parents religion Not his parents religion
Got into power with double- I think you get the point
entendres.

Upside
Obama is a wellspoken person. I think he is going to be GREAT for diplomacy, and truly, he may do good things for the country. Obama is for net neutrality, HOWEVER, Biden is for the RIAA.

you forgot colbert on presidency oh and +1 to the mustaine
#27
Quote by stradivari310
Too many people voted for him because he's black, that's a given. I personally think he's too radical, and also because both of my parents work I'll end up in the tax bracket that gets hit really hard when frankly it's going to be really hard to pay for my sibling's college education as it is.

But I am glad that people are happy, for what it's worth. I do believe Obama is a socialist based on what I have read. But it comes down to him being extremely eloquent. The Republicans haven't had an eloquent candidate since Reagan.

Wow... this is what you should be worried about, not Obama.
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#28
Quote by Captain Insano
My thoughs...

Obama is pretty radical, I don't like his policies. But the dems didn't pick-up enough seats to have a veto proof majority in congress. So he can't do anything to crazy, so I'm not too worried.

I think it might even be a good thing for the Republican party that Obama won. Republicans are going to have to realize that being a "moderate" does not win elections. And when elections come around people who are actually conservatives (small goverment, non-interventionism, lower taxes) are going to run for office and get it.

Voted for Ron Paul, BTW.

i thought the dems picked up the senate with a majority too, so they have that, the house, and the white house. why don't they have enough seats?

btw don't flame me i'm canadian and i don't know all that much about the american political system.
#29
Quote by tona_107
i thought the dems picked up the senate with a majority too, so they have that, the house, and the white house. why don't they have enough seats?

btw don't flame me i'm canadian and i don't know all that much about the american political system.


They do have the majority, but important issues need a 2/3's majority and they don't have that.
#30
I do agree that the uber-Obama supporters were getting annoying as hell. Everyday on campus was the same group of people that would scream "You registered to vote yet?? Vote Obama!!" And every time I would give the same answer "I registered on the first day I was here, I am voting for Obama. You ask me this every day. Shut the fuck up."

Alot of people did vote for him just because he's black and popular. I think that's stupid.

But I do think that he will bring change. It isn't entirely the congress and senate. Him and his administration have a good part in it. There would be zero change if McCain was elected. His administration would have been identical to Bush's, and the Republican ideals would have stayed.

And he is not going to end up being a super left wing liberal. With some republicans still in the House, that won't happen. And of course he wants to appease the majority, so there is no way he will be going super liberal.
#31
Quote by tona_107
i thought the dems picked up the senate with a majority too, so they have that, the house, and the white house. why don't they have enough seats?



You need a 2/3 majority to overturn a veto. The democrats only have a majority by a few seats.


But since Obama isn't going to veto any Democrat heavy bills, I don't know what that guy's point was.
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#32
Quote by Captain Insano
My thoughs...

Obama is pretty radical, I don't like his policies. But the dems didn't pick-up enough seats to have a veto proof majority in congress. So he can't do anything to crazy, so I'm not too worried.


This. I'm very much a moderate, and I think the only way we can find a happy medium is to have half republicans/half democrats. (Note: I'd be saying this if Mccain won too, since I didn't like either candidate too much TBH.)

A lot of people make the president to be more than he is. He doesn't just get into office and say "OK, x is now a law, and you must OBEY!!!". Yes, he's powerful. Arguably the most powerful man in the world. But he's not a god, people.
#33
I don't know if this has been posted already but...

Democrats did the same thing in 2004, infact i heard some of them were planning on moving to Canada then (because of bush winning the election)
#34
Quote by Captain Insano
They do have the majority, but important issues need a 2/3's majority and they don't have that.


that's too bad.
i figured they would have gotten that, when i fell asleep it was 52-36 when it came to the senate.
#35
Quote by stradivari310
Too many people voted for him because he's black, that's a given. I personally think he's too radical, and also because both of my parents work I'll end up in the tax bracket that gets hit really hard when frankly it's going to be really hard to pay for my sibling's college education as it is.


like the rest of us in the lower bracket arnt in worse situations with taking out huge amounts of loans, im sorry but you shouldnt really be complaining
#36
It's funny, I didn't like Obama mostly because he wasn't radical enough, he really doesn't seem that different from anyone else, they're all in the same boat, just like Gore and Kerry were.

And he's not a socialist by a long shot. He won't give the US high taxes, just normal ones, still low compared to the high taxes in the rest of the developed world.
Everyone in all my classes today (well there's only 80 people in my program so it was pretty much the same people) were going crazy over Obama winning, like it was the greatest thing on earth and freaked out when one person said he'd rather vote for Mccain, not because he liked him but he was simply rightist and it made sense. He's not that great, he's not gonna change much and doesn't even plan on changing much so it's not that big of a deal, he ain't no Jack Layton after all.
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#37
people need to stop saying that black people voted for him because he's black.


i could easily say white people voted for mccain because he was white.


just shut up about race already.


EDIT: i support obama as a black man, but not because i'm black. because i support his ideas. we're not all ignorant.
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#38
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Obama is pretty radical

Obama is a moderate conservative.
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Obama is a moderate conservative.
Anyone who says any different is a cretinous moron.


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#40
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I'm fine with him being black, muslim descent, african, whatever.

I'm not fine with him supporting abortion, wanting to ban the public ownership of guns other than a single shot .22 and shotgun and wanting to bring the troops out of Iraq prematurely.

Thats what I have a problem with.

StupidityEdit: I also have a problem with airheaded teenage girls raving about him winning because he's their messiah or some ****. My Geography teacher mentioned all of his policies versus Mccain's policies and the specific girl in there was shocked. because, racism aside, she supported him because her parents did and because he is black.

People like this are misguided bags of media garbage.


Obama does not support abortion, there is no pro-abortion, there is pro-choice and pro-life.
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