#1
I might be joining a band tours a plays a lot of shows so I most likely going to need a backup guitar in case something bad were to happen. I currently have a Schecter Hellraiser and I love it, but if I get something else I don't want something exactly the same. I was thinking about an ESP Horizon IINT or Eclipse II. I don't like trems so keep that in mind. I'm open to other suggestions though so post away. Disclaimer: I don't like really thin necks so go ahead and rule out Jackson or Ibanez.
#2
Get like a LP Prophecy or something. Or use this as an excuse to get a nicer guitar and use your your Schecter as a backup.

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#3
^ haha I thought of that, don't get me wrong I love my Hellraiser but a Horizon would be a step up.

EDIT: I'm not too sure about singlecut style guitars though...I know I don't like how the higher fret access is on LPs, but I've never played and Eclipse so I'd have to judge that for myself. I generally like a body like my hellraiser b/c the high fret access makes sweeps a lot easier.
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#4
Nice LP with a set of EMG'S?
You have a PRS-Tremonti with EMG'S so it should be fine?
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#5
get something similar so if something goes wrong your sound isnt way different. Like the schecter devil. Its like the hellraiser, but looks cooler.
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#6
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Nice LP with a set of EMG'S?
You have a PRS-Tremonti with EMG'S so it should be fine?


It has the passive HZ pups in it so that doesn't work...pluss I got a new guitar for a reason b/c the SE just doesn't play even close to my Hellraiser.
#7
I love my eclipse, but keep in mind the different scale length as well. It will feel different.

I'd definitely look at the Horizon. (Wow, that sounded sort of deep. . .)
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#8
how much is your budget?
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#9
The 1500ish dollars I'd have to spend on an ESP would probably be the limit, but if it was for something quality like that I think it would be worth it.
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I love my eclipse, but keep in mind the different scale length as well. It will feel different.

I'd definitely look at the Horizon. (Wow, that sounded sort of deep. . .)


How's the fret access on it?...scale isn't that big of an issue b/c I still play my SE from time to time and it's shorter but I don't have any problems with it.
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The 1500ish dollars I'd have to spend on an ESP would probably be the limit, but if it was for something quality like that I think it would be worth it.


yeah, it probably would. i'm struggling to think of a lot of other options, to be honest. there are probably some really obvious ones which I'm missing...
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yeah, it probably would. i'm struggling to think of a lot of other options, to be honest. there are probably some really obvious ones which I'm missing...


haha well me ruling out Ibanez and Jackson probably isn't helping either b/c a lot of people would suggest those.
#13
yeah. i mean, the slsmg might have a thicker neck, but i haven't tried it... if there's an american-made version, it might be worth a look...
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yeah. i mean, the slsmg might have a thicker neck, but i haven't tried it... if there's an american-made version, it might be worth a look...


I actually played that exact guitar the other day and hated it. The neck felt paper thin, for some reason thin necks like that make my hand crap and I can't have that happen halfway through a solo on stage.
#15
oh ok, no problem. how thin are the esp necks?
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oh ok, no problem. how thin are the esp necks?


couldn't tell ya nobody in my city sells em...from what I've heard they are somewhere between Schecter and Ibanez, which if they're right sounds ideal to me.

EDIT: for all I know, I could hate their necks, but I guess I won't know until I try one out.
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couldn't tell ya nobody in my city sells em...from what I've heard they are somewhere between Schecter and Ibanez, which if they're right sounds ideal to me.

That's about right.
#19
Maybe a EX-400?

Saves you some money, EMGs, looks very good (I am guessing your into metal/rock from your guitar list)

Or the MH-400 looks nice for around the same price, any of the LTD 400s come around the same price and would suit you i think, just picking the shape/specs you prefer
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That's about right.


yeah, probably. i've only tried a couple... depends on the model too, different models have different necks...
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#21
If you want something similer to your hellraiser this might be worth a look

http://www.schecterguitars.com/spec.asp?id=254
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#22
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Maybe a EX-400?

Saves you some money, EMGs, looks very good (I am guessing your into metal/rock from your guitar list)

Or the MH-400 looks nice for around the same price, any of the LTD 400s come around the same price and would suit you i think, just picking the shape/specs you prefer


If I get anything it would be either another Hellraiser in a different color or something very close in quality or nicer. I think the LTD 1000 series would be the lowest I would go as far as ESP's go. Hell I might even look into a used PRS and throw some EMGs in it.
#23
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How's the fret access on it?...scale isn't that big of an issue b/c I still play my SE from time to time and it's shorter but I don't have any problems with it.

The upper bout meets the neck at the 17th fret. I can reach the 24th fret on the high e with my ring finger, no problem. But my fingers are fairly long. I can message you a pic of my hand fretting up there if it will help.
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The upper bout meets the neck at the 17th fret. I can reach the 24th fret on the high e with my ring finger, no problem. But my fingers are fairly long. I can message you a pic of my hand fretting up there if it will help.


I think that just confirmed my theory on single cuts b/c I can reach the 24th high e with my index finger easily and I have relatively small hands.
#25
Oh yeah, it's DEFINITELY reduced access. But I don't see why you would use your index finger up there in the first place.
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Oh yeah, it's DEFINITELY reduced access. But I don't see why you would use your index finger up there in the first place.


I don't but it's just the fact that I'm able to with that kind of access, know what I mean?
#28
^ I'm not too hot on crazy body styles but I wasn't away Schecter even sold custom shops in stores, I thought it was just they sold those to people who put in orders individually...maybe I should look into some more of their USA stuff.