#1
Well im still learning and dont have much experiance with guitars. I heard someone once mention that basswood guitars are cheap and suck but all the guitars I see that aren't like over $1000 and I like are made of basswood! So is it really that bad or did I just hear wrong?
#3
It kind of depends. Basswood is light but not extremely a good tone wood. Most guitarists I know prefer Mahogony Wood.
#4
It's not bad, and an excellent piece of basswood is better than a shitty piece of something else. But it would not be my first choice of wood. But for budget guitars, it's pretty good.
#5
It's a pretty neutral wood, leaning toward warm. Cuts through very well. Lotsa shredders use Basswood guitars (Satch, Petrucci used to I think, maybe Vai).
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#6
depends on the quality of the basswood, and the tone you're after...
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#7
Its all opinion.

Mahogany is NOT the end all tone wood.


There is good basswood and there is cheap basswood.

Also, there is good mahogany and there is cheap mahogany.


Personally i like Basswood, as its very neutral and allows you to change the tone drastically with your amp, instead of with mahogany, which is always very dark, or alder, which is always very bright
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Its all opinion.

Mahogany is NOT the end all tone wood.


There is good basswood and there is cheap basswood.

Also, there is good mahogany and there is cheap mahogany.



+1

not to mention a lot of wood which is not really basswood is called basswood, which gives it a bad name (similar thing happens with mahogany, but the pseudo-mahogany seems to sound a lot better than the pseudo-basswood... at least, it doesn't seem to have given mahogany a bad name as it has with basswood)
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#9
Wait, what's pseudo-basswood and what's real?
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Wait, what's pseudo-basswood and what's real?


well, generally if the guitar is too cheap, it's possibly the "fake" basswood... certainly something like a suhr or tom anderson is going to be using "real" basswood...
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#12
One of the things about basswood is the pickup has a lot of influence on the guitar's tone, so you need to be careful to get the right balance between a shrill and thin one or a muddy one.

EDIT: I also agree with Dave and GiR 100%
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#14
Basswood can be amazing just as mahogany can be shite. It depends on the quality. I like basswood tone personally, but once again, depends on the pickups.
#15
Basswood found in budget guitars is NOT the same found in high end guitars...

Basswood (high end) is seen as a "Shredder" wood because of it's warm, but clear tone...

Individual notes/frequencies ring out very well with basswood.
#19
Vai's Jems are Alder wood
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#20

Basswood Back / Quilt or Flame Maple Top –
Okay, this may be the Holy Grail of tone. The Basswood response is extended by a 3/16" Maple top adding more clarity and grind to the fatness of the Basswood, this combination is our favorite! Usually colors chosen will be opaque on the back with transparent colors on the top – LP style. It's most excellent with a one-piece Maple neck.


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#21
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Vai's Jems are Alder wood

only the white one is alder

all the others are basswood


fun fact: his FLO guitar (the one with the sustainer) is actually one of the floral JEMs repainted white
#22
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Wait, what's pseudo-basswood and what's real?


Just be realistic. When you see basswood guitars for less than $150 brand new, it's not realistic to expect anything more than a cheap piece of crap.
#23
Basswood dents so easy it's untrue. If you dug your fingernail into an untreated bit of basswood you can dent it, so the applied finish needs to be decent enough to withstand some knocks.

Other than that it's still a "tonewood", is very light and cheap. Ibanez make good use of it as do Parker guitars - although they've got some clever oven baked shananigans going on.

Dexter Holland from The Offspring is one that comes to mind that uses Ibanez guitars made from BW.

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#24
Basswood can be brilliant.
Basswood can be crap.
Mahogany can be brilliant.
Mahogany can be crap.
Korina can be brilliant
...

Yeah, korina's awesome. Anyway.
Depending on how well your neck woods and pickups work with your body wood, it can be very toneful. Very little is to do with the individual woods, I find. I think it's more to do with getting a good balance. But as far as being an individual tonewood goes, basswood can be great. Not as dark as mahogany, not as toppy as ash (for the nitwit who suggested alder sounded too bright, are you aware it's got the most balanced tone of all tonewoods?)

Pseudo-basswood and real basswood are quite different. While the latter is great with note articulation and things, the former is the polar opposite. It's really muddy.

... anybody know if my JS100 is pseudo or genuine basswood? 'cause it's sort of... middle priced. Not a cheapy, but it's no custom shop job.
#25
from what i understand its a pretty light wood and it has a neutral tone to it but i could be wrong
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#26
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From John Suhr himself.


That wood combo is what I believe Guthrie Govan uses on several of his Suhr customs, and he gets a REALLY fat yet clear tone from that and his cornfords.
#28
quality basswood is a nice clear sounding wood
mahogany is too dark for some people(me)
and alder is just too perfecto for some people(like me!)
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#29
Just get a good Slab of Alder wood.. (FENDER)
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#30
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Basswood can be brilliant.
Basswood can be crap.
Mahogany can be brilliant.
Mahogany can be crap.
Korina can be brilliant
...

Yeah, korina's awesome. Anyway.
Depending on how well your neck woods and pickups work with your body wood, it can be very toneful. Very little is to do with the individual woods, I find. I think it's more to do with getting a good balance. But as far as being an individual tonewood goes, basswood can be great. Not as dark as mahogany, not as toppy as ash (for the nitwit who suggested alder sounded too bright, are you aware it's got the most balanced tone of all tonewoods?)

Pseudo-basswood and real basswood are quite different. While the latter is great with note articulation and things, the former is the polar opposite. It's really muddy.

... anybody know if my JS100 is pseudo or genuine basswood? 'cause it's sort of... middle priced. Not a cheapy, but it's no custom shop job.


Is korina even that commonly used? Ive only seen two guitars before (that I knew) that had korina for the wood.
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Is korina even that commonly used? Ive only seen two guitars before (that I knew) that had korina for the wood.

not really. Gibson, a few other companies, and small makers are the only ones who use it, I think.
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#32
Korina and Koa are more rare, expensive tone woods, but from the looks (well, SOUNDS) of it they're epic. Reb Beach of Winger, Dokken and like 90 other music going-ons has his custom suhr (and formerly his custom Ibanez) with a Koa body, flame koa top, and pau ferrao 22 fret neck, and his guitar sounds AMAZING. Sure, his playing has a lot to do with it, but it's just so warm yet CLEAR and sustains like mad. I'm really tempted to build a guitar with those woods just to try it out.

And Guitar Player had an article on a rockabilly guy and a fusion player that have all korina guitars, and i wound up youtubing them and their sounds were also really insanely good.
#34
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Korina and Koa are more rare, expensive tone woods, but from the looks (well, SOUNDS) of it they're epic. Reb Beach of Winger, Dokken and like 90 other music going-ons has his custom suhr (and formerly his custom Ibanez) with a Koa body, flame koa top, and pau ferrao 22 fret neck, and his guitar sounds AMAZING. Sure, his playing has a lot to do with it, but it's just so warm yet CLEAR and sustains like mad. I'm really tempted to build a guitar with those woods just to try it out.

And Guitar Player had an article on a rockabilly guy and a fusion player that have all korina guitars, and i wound up youtubing them and their sounds were also really insanely good.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWGQWu6mSWM
#35
there are different qualities of basswood ranging from pretty awful to very good.. but it as a tonewood in itself is neither good or bad. it really just depends what you're looking for.. it tends to have a fairly flat natural response so you can leave the tone shaping up to the amp and pickups.
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#36
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Yea! i was hoping someone would post one of those! that the the Cut it Loose clips show off his sound and I believe the Black Magic clip is the one where he actually explains the tonewoods.
#37
my fender mustang was basswood, and it sounded amazing
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#38
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That wood combo is what I believe Guthrie Govan uses on several of his Suhr customs, and he gets a REALLY fat yet clear tone from that and his cornfords.


yea, guthrie govan is awesome. a lot of that tone is presumably from the cornfords, the guitar's bound to be playing a big part too though.

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#39
I heard somewhere that korina is actually poisonous if inhaled, another reason its rare because when the luthier is making the body, they have to wear masks and equipment.

Oh, and on Vai's Jem, only his ones with Evos are alder, i guess its because they were designed for alder guitars.

I used to have a set of Evos in my Basswood RG1570, and they were pretty bad to be honest, but ive played a 7W once and it sounded amazing.
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