#1
im new to guitar customizeing and was wondering what the differnce was
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#2
Active pickups have an onboard preamp that allows for tone shaping and more gain.

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#3
Active pickups require a 9volt battery. They have a much higher output than passive. They're used in heavier styles of music, but most certainly are not required. They're not very pleasing for cleans.
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#5
thanks
also i understand one type uses batterise
whats the deal there
edit:already answered
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Originally Posted by Cockpuncher 2.0
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Last edited by stratsrule1990 at Nov 8, 2008,
#6
right now im looking at the dimarzio air zone and the dimarzio dp153 fred and cant find anywhere if they're passive or active
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#8
Quote by CLIFF_BURTON
Active pickups require a 9volt battery. They have a much higher output than passive. They're used in heavier styles of music, but most certainly are not required. They're not very pleasing for cleans.


i have EMG-SA's in my Strat and the cleans are epic
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#10
If a pickup is active, it will state it QUITE clearly on the product description. Usually, it'll have a black cover over it too, but this varies. Mainly, actives are either EMGs or Duncan Blackouts. Dimarzio, surprisingly, don't do any active models.

Ignore that guy with the Strat; active cleans generally suck.
The advantages of actives are noiselessness, note articulation and monster gain.
The advantages of passives are punchy tone, versatility, range of different options, and general better-ness, although that's just my and every other non-metallers opinion.
#11
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Ignore that guy with the Strat
rude and pretentious.

just don't, please.


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active cleans generally suck.
in the hands of a hack, anything sucks. in the hands of someone who thinks about what they're doing, an active can be made to sound abolutely lovely when clean.


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The advantages of actives are noiselessness, note articulation and monster gain.
the use of the term "gain" is dreadfully misused, but this is neither the time nor the place.
low noise? absolutely!
note articulation? not really.


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The advantages of passives are punchy tone, versatility, range of different options, and general better-ness,
better-ness.


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although that's just my and every other non-metallers opinion.
pretentious and assumptive.

speak for yourself, not for others in our group.
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#12
Quote by Rock Pig
If a pickup is active, it will state it QUITE clearly on the product description. Usually, it'll have a black cover over it too, but this varies. Mainly, actives are either EMGs or Duncan Blackouts. Dimarzio, surprisingly, don't do any active models.

Ignore that guy with the Strat; active cleans generally suck.
The advantages of actives are noiselessness, note articulation and monster gain.
The advantages of passives are punchy tone, versatility, range of different options, and general better-ness, although that's just my and every other non-metallers opinion.

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#13
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rude and pretentious.

just don't, please.

Calm down; what do you think I was trying to say? I'm not going "oh my god that guy with the strat is an asshole," I respect his opinion and stuff, I just, sort of, disagree with it. and am strongly opinionated >.>

in the hands of a hack, anything sucks. in the hands of someone who thinks about what they're doing, an active can be made to sound abolutely lovely when clean.

My point is that in the hands of the same player, through the same amp, good active cleans will simply not be as good as good passive cleans. There is simply no arguing with that.

the use of the term "gain" is dreadfully misused, but this is neither the time nor the place.
low noise? absolutely!
note articulation? not really.

You know what I mean by gain :p
And, I suspect you have a rough idea of what I meant by note articulation too. I couldn't quite put it into words at that point, but it's the reason EMGs are so popular with shred guitarists. Perhaps I've missed something here, or I read that off an advertisement :p

better-ness.

It's my opinion. And I am in fact very practised in proper usage of the English language. It's the internet, which is by definition a place to dick around

pretentious and assumptive.

speak for yourself, not for others in our group.

A sweeping generalisation, definitely, but it's a generalisation. I'm not trying to speak for every human on Earth, I'm just stating that an average blues or whatever player will prefer passives. There will always be deviations and things, but you can't criticise somebody for saying all agathis is crappy tonewood just because there are a couple of half-decent pieces. Same sort of thing.

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#14
Anyhoo I use passive pickups and play metal, they sound great. Dimarzio D-Activators, Woo!
#15
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Calm down; what do you think I was trying to say? I'm not going "oh my god that guy with the strat is an asshole," I respect his opinion and stuff, I just, sort of, disagree with it. and am strongly opinionated >.>
that's entirely different than what you previously said.

"ignore him" completely dismissed his opinion.
you didn't only disagree with his opinion, you implied is wasn't even worth considering.



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My point is that in the hands of the same player, through the same amp, good active cleans will simply not be as good as good passive cleans. There is simply no arguing with that.
EMG 81 & 89 in a Les Paul through a Ampeg V4b and and 8-10 cab. volume on the guitar rolled back. Cleans blew away anything I could do with a LP with SD 59s.

Consider it argued.


Quote by Rock Pig
A sweeping generalisation, definitely, but it's a generalisation. I'm not trying to speak for every human on Earth, I'm just stating that an average blues or whatever player will prefer passives. There will always be deviations and things, but you can't criticise somebody for saying all agathis is crappy tonewood just because there are a couple of half-decent pieces. Same sort of thing.
just pointing out that you don't speak for me. and i'm one of those "every non-metallers" you spoke of.

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I hope I haven't offended anyone with my opinions
only when you presumed to speak for me. otherwise, your opinions are as valid as anyone's.

personally i find passives much easier to work with. but to dismiss actives entirely for non-metal use is throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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#16
When I said "ignore the guy with the strat," I meant that I didn't agree with his opinion. When I said "every other non-metaller," I meant most other non-metallers.
We seem to have reached this misunderstanding through an unfortunate mincing of words on my part. If you see fit to withdraw and put this thread back on the course of civil discussion, I will do the same. I apologise for allowing my views and opinions to be misinterpreted to such an extent. Inconceivable for someone workig at A* standard in his literacy GCSEs

As for your active cleans, I'm quite surprised. Again I perhaps misworded this, but my view was not that it's impossible to get good cleans from an EMG, rather that in general they will produce inferior cleans to a guitar with passives of the same relative quality.

I hope you won't judge me falsely on this drastic miswording of my views.

TS, you can have your thread back now.
Case in point, actives are also bitches to install.
#17
not really^
just a few more wires.
not hard at all, just gotta know what to do.
but you have to have room for the battery.
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