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#1
Instead of ruining Kevin Saale's new amp thread, I decided to just make my own thread.

Anyway, I dont have a slide. I think it would be cool to try and mess around with one. I have no experience with it, and I play in a genre where it is used never to seldom (hard rock/alternative/metal).

I would just like some input on what you guys like. I like more of a mellow slide sound so I am guessing that a glass slide would be best for me.

Input?
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#2
raise your action up, tune to open D, and go nuts

edit: also, for a slide i would recommend the dunlop heavy wall pyrex slides. very mellow. i would start with a full tube slide, and then move on to hoolihan slides once you have the techniques down
#4
Here's a basic rundown of slides and slide techniques:

There are five basic materials of which slides are made: Glass, Brass, Steel, Ceramic, and Porcelain.

Glass: The most well rounded of all materials, imo. Very good for both electric slide and acoustic slide. Characterized by a clean, glassy (duh), neutral sound. It doesn't really color the tone at all, IMO.

Brass: Brass is probably the second most versatile of the slide materials. The polish will rub off of the slide after minor use and produce a very rough, brash, raspy sound. This is desirable for certain forms of slide playing. It will have a duller sound than glass, and a thicker, more sustaining tone. I do not recommend brass for a beginning player on either acoustic or electric.

Steel: Very, very bright. DO NOT USE WITH A BRIGHT GUITAR/AMP. It sounds very hot and very bright, obviously. They have a very clean sound, similar to glass, but for many, the tonal quality is hard to tame. However, steel can be useful for taming a dark guitar, like certain semi hollows or mahogany bodied guitars.

Ceramic: I've never used one. Aparently, they match the warmth of a brass slide with the clarity of glass.

Porcelain: Same as ceramic, but with a bit more clarity.

Generally, you don't use steel with acoustic, and brass sounds very good with resonators. Glass is the best for beginners since they're lighter and come in more sizes than metal slides.

Techniques

Muting: THE most important technique in slide playing. Regardless of the tuning.

Tuning: Open tunings are generally preferred, though standard tuning can be used to great effect.

Setup: You generally want higher action and heavier strings.

Fingerpicking: IMO, this is the correct way to play slide. You already have a hard device on the strings, so a pick accentuates the attack too much. It's also much harder to mute effectively.

If you want more info, let me know.
#5
If you're not careful I wouldn't get a glass, ceramic or porcelain slide. If you are, however, then go right ahead.
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#6
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If you're not careful I wouldn't get a glass, ceramic or porcelain slide. If you are, however, then go right ahead.

Why? They're 5 bucks, and can be replaced easily. You should buy more than one, anyway.
#7
Anyone know what kinda slide would be good for an acoustic steel string? (Sorry to ask the question but I wanna try one)
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#8
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Anyone know what kinda slide would be good for an acoustic steel string? (Sorry to ask the question but I wanna try one)

What kind?

Solid spruce top with maple sides and a mahogany neck? High action with heavy strings?

Dunlop 224.
#9
Was I of any help whatsoever?
#10
My strings aren't heavy I use medium gauge
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#11
hmm, i wanna play slide, on both electric and acoustic, should i go for glass/pyrex?
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#13
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#14
I'll take one, five bucks? How do I pay, paypal? PM me the pertinent info and I'll get some money to you.
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#17
Heh, turns out I pulled the trigger and picked up the medium wall pyrex glass Dunlop on monday. I was driving back to school and said, "Eh, f*ck it." Wow, I am no good. I need to practice pretty bad. Only thing is that the one I bought, I figured it would fit my fingers fine. It doesnt go all the way down my ring finger. Damn genetics. I think I bought the 18mm one.

Goolz, thanks for the tips. I also searched youtube and the lessons on this site. Just a matter of getting the time to practice. (College life )

Forsaken, my uncle's a glazer (works with glass) so I am assuming he would have the proper tools to do this. And he drinks a lot of beer as well. Eh, eff it, I'm just gonna shoot you a PM.

Also, bump, for anyone looking for info on slides, its got it all. Types, techs and even someone who makes em!
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#18
^You only need to slide it over your first two knuckles, you shouldn't slide it all the way over your finger.
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#19
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, you shouldn't slide it all the way over your finger.

I do.
#20
Well, to each his own, I found it very difficult to play like that.
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#21
Quote by Kevin Saale
Well, to each his own, I found it very difficult to play like that.

I also use my pinky and a brass slide (as of late).
#22
Eh, that makes since, I use my ring or middle finger if I don't set the guitar in my lap.
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#23
Well right now I am just trying to get used to it. Swapping back and forth between my pinky and ring fingers. That and I am not at all a blues guitarist. Not that I'm bashing the genre or anything, just that I never got into it....like....ever...

Looks like I'm gonna be making some backing tracks this weekend!
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#24
I've played around with a slide for awhile. It will sound like cats fighting until you start to build up some proficiency. Muting unwanted noise is definitely one of the key skills to pick up as well.
#25
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Well right now I am just trying to get used to it. Swapping back and forth between my pinky and ring fingers. That and I am not at all a blues guitarist. Not that I'm bashing the genre or anything, just that I never got into it....like....ever...

Looks like I'm gonna be making some backing tracks this weekend!

If you don't like blues, what's the point of learning slide guitar?
#26
I never said I didn't like blues, it is a sweet genre with many VERY talented players, just that I never got into it. Plus, slide doesn't just have to be a blues only thing, who ever said slides belong only to blues players? haha Plus I want to branch out, try new things and expand my creative limits. Recently I have entered a slump. One way I found to get out of it was to learn something new, I figured why not slide. So I am.
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#27
Fair enough. And while slide guitar isn't solely used by blues players, it's mainly a blues thing, IMO. But that statement also takes into account my personal views on music so
#28
Anyone heard of those Peaceland Musser rings? They're like small slide sections to be worn as rings. I'm thinking of getting one.

And yeah, I used to make 'em, sold about 5 or 6 here on UG, and never really was much interest after that. So I stopped bumping my thread, took it out of my sig. Then again, with hours being cut at work...I could use money where I can get it! Maybe I'll start a new one...
#30
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Fair enough. And while slide guitar isn't solely used by blues players, it's mainly a blues thing, IMO. But that statement also takes into account my personal views on music so


Hey man, we all got our views, and I respect em. I'm just doing this to grow as a musician.
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#31
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slide + eBow anyone?


Sounds like it could = win. I had a glass slide once, didn't use it much, and then I lost it. TBH, I can't really learn proper slide because my guitars are floating bridge setup, with .9 gauge strings.
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#32
would an ebow work with an acoustic?
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#34
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Sounds like it could = win. I had a glass slide once, didn't use it much, and then I lost it. TBH, I can't really learn proper slide because my guitars are floating bridge setup, with .9 gauge strings.


Yea I have a stoptail bridge with .10s and a low setup, but I'm not letting it stop me. Maybe I'll set up my old squire with higher action when I'm home over break.
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#35
That's what I just did. I did a fretless mod on it ages ago, only to lose all sustain, so it was just collecting dust.
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#36
i havent really listened much to slide players but i really want to get into it.
anyone want to tell me who the real good slide players are?
my guitar teacher told me about derek trucks (not sure if thats his correct name) but im gonna look him up now.
anyone else?
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#37
Quote by musicTHEORYnerd
i havent really listened much to slide players but i really want to get into it.
anyone want to tell me who the real good slide players are?
my guitar teacher told me about derek trucks (not sure if thats his correct name) but im gonna look him up now.
anyone else?

Derek Trucks
Duane Allman
Mississippi Fred McDowell
Elmore James
Hound Dog Taylor
Warren Haynes
Blind Willie Johnson
Robert Johnson
Dan Auerbach
Robert Nighthawk
Muddy Waters
Howlin Wolf
Ry Cooder
Sonny Landreth
#38
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Derek Trucks
Duane Allman
Mississippi Fred McDowell
Elmore James
Hound Dog Taylor
Warren Haynes
Blind Willie Johnson
Robert Johnson
Dan Auerbach
Robert Nighthawk
Muddy Waters
Howlin Wolf
Ry Cooder
Sonny Landreth

thank you very much =]
im gonna look some of them up and try to learn some cool licks


EDIT:im listening to a song warren haynes did with dave matthews band, and it is awsome.
warren haynes is sooo good.
=]
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#39
Quote by musicTHEORYnerd
thank you very much =]
im gonna look some of them up and try to learn some cool licks


EDIT:im listening to a song warren haynes did with dave matthews band, and it is awsome.
warren haynes is sooo good.
=]


+1000, i fucking love warren haynes. Is it cortez the killer? Listen to Gov't mule. That's all I have to say
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#40
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+1000, i fucking love warren haynes. Is it cortez the killer? Listen to Gov't mule. That's all I have to say

yeah cortez the killer is really good
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