#1
So guys, I'm looking for a new amp and a cab to go with it. With what I've seen so far a modular rig seems to be the best bang for the buck.

I'm looking at getting an Avatar 212 and a QSC GX3 power amp with some sort of pre amp. I have a few questions though.
1. If I get a 4 ohm cab can i use only one channel of the power amp?
2. What would be a good pre amp to use?
My budget is about $800US, $900 tops.
#2
You may want to look at a Sansamp RBI or RPM or whatever the the hell it is. Maybe the EBS floor preamp. I was thinking about going this route, but I ended up deciding against it, as I only had about $600, as opposed to $900. The benefit that I saw was that later I could upgrade the preamp and just use my existing power amp.
#3
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You may want to look at a Sansamp RBI or RPM or whatever the the hell it is. Maybe the EBS floor preamp. I was thinking about going this route, but I ended up deciding against it, as I only had about $600, as opposed to $900. The benefit that I saw was that later I could upgrade the preamp and just use my existing power amp.

Yeah, that's why I liked the idea of a modular rig. The Ebs looks really good and I like that its a pedal.

Edit: Either of those pre amps and an avatar 212 leave me about $140 for a head =/
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#4
I'm not sure how that amp works, but typically in multi-power amp amplifiers, you can run one side at 4 ohms, or bridge them together at 4 ohms (effectively running each at 2) with a specially configured Speakon cable.

As for a preamp, the new SWR Marcus Miller preamp is tasty, although I'm not sure of the price. I'd also recommend the Eden preamp as well.
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#5
The Marcus Miller is out of my budget by it self. The Sam Ash near me stock a whole bunch of Eden stuff so I'll try that out soon.
I just figured out that the GX3 can't be bridged so that's pretty much out of the question. So this brings up the question, what are some good power amps?

Edit: the Eden power amp is way too much for my price range. I'm looking at $900 for the whole setup not just a preamp.
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#6
Oh, gotcha.

Why, why, WHY are you after a separate pre/power amp anyway, especially with such a restricted budget? Separate pre/power amps is the mark of the tone conneseur who has $6000 to spend on a stack. There's no advantage to separate amps at that budget - and the advantage at any budget is subjective.
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#7
Well if your sure probably a sansamp rpm or sonic max preamp. I dont think a floor preamp can send enough signal to run a power amp. And a 2x12 is a good option. The aguikar tone hammer is the only floor preamp that i know of that you can run straight through a poweramp.
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#8
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Oh, gotcha.

Why, why, WHY are you after a separate pre/power amp anyway, especially with such a restricted budget? Separate pre/power amps is the mark of the tone conneseur who has $6000 to spend on a stack. There's no advantage to separate amps at that budget - and the advantage at any budget is subjective.

I was figuring I could get more watts for less money and only have to spend money on upgrading a pre amp.
#9
Yep that is true but how many watts do you actually need. You dont have to upgrade a preamp you can just add on another to get even more tones.
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#10
I really don't think you're going to find any value in going separate like that - you can still "just get a preamp" if you buy a proper head - just plug the new preamp into the effects loop return.

Also, CARVIN.
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I really don't think you're going to find any value in going separate like that - you can still "just get a preamp" if you buy a proper head - just plug the new preamp into the effects loop return.

Also, CARVIN.


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#12
Another +1 for Carvin.

The Avatar is gonna be about $400...that leaves a max of $500 for a Pre/Power amp setup...no good. I'd grab the Carvin BX600, which is just about what your budget allows for. Get the 4-ohm model of the 212 and you've got a 400W half stack with room for another 4-ohm cab. That'll be plenty, and you can do anything you want with the preamp on that thing.
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Another +1 for Carvin.

The Avatar is gonna be about $400...that leaves a max of $500 for a Pre/Power amp setup...no good. I'd grab the Carvin BX600, which is just about what your budget allows for. Get the 4-ohm model of the 212 and you've got a 400W half stack with room for another 4-ohm cab. That'll be plenty, and you can do anything you want with the preamp on that thing.

I'll check out Carvin. Thats almost exactly what I wanted out of an amp.
#14
Carvin has package deals, too. For a few hundred more, you'd have a proper STACK...
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