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Also, I'm not familiar with the kind of floyd rose on the soloist. Is it a licensed or original?
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#3
gotta go with the jackson. the seymour duncans are more versatile, and sound better in my opinion, than the emg's, especially the JB for rhythm parts. btw, im pretty sure the floyd rose is original on it.
#4
That's such a tough choice IMO. I love both of those guitars.
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#5
I've actually tried the SL3 (but not the ESP) over the weekend.

Kind of a letdown for me...because...well...it felt like someone glossed the strings with tar and nuclear sludge. On top of not being flexible or slideable AT ALL by the time I had finished trying it out my fingers looked like I wiped my ass with them.

But otherwise it was SEX. I loved it. Played it through the amp I'm getting for xmas (Bugera 6262)
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#6
nevermind my previous post, one of those gutiars would be great through a bugera. maybe save up a little bit more and get a sl1
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#7
Whoops never mind this post
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I've actually tried the SL3 (but not the ESP) over the weekend.

Kind of a letdown for me...because...well...it felt like someone glossed the strings with tar and nuclear sludge. On top of not being flexible or slideable AT ALL by the time I had finished trying it out my fingers looked like I wiped my ass with them.

But otherwise it was SEX. I loved it. Played it through the amp I'm getting for xmas (Bugera 6262)


All guitars feel like that in stores, ****ing peoples nasty hands
#9
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nevermind my previous post, one of those gutiars would be great through a bugera. maybe save up a little bit more and get a sl1



Idk.

I don't plan on either of those being my last guitar.


Just a great upgrade from my starter guitar.

My ULTIMATE goal is a gibson les paul custom in black. Idk though. That USA soloist looks ****ing AWESOME.

But that's a whole other thread lol.
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#10
Both of those are awesome, but you gotta think.. do you want a h/h pickup set or h/s/s because that's a big part of a choice like this.. If you've tried both of those out you should choose the one you think is sexier. I would personally go for the Ltd just because of that reason, but then again it's a ltd so it wont retain value as well as the Jackson. This probably didn't help... well anyways
#11
then, there you have your goal. save up for the les paul. NEVER BUY ONE WITHOUT PLAYING IT though. i was tempted by so many vintage les paul customs on ebay, but i resisted and am buying the best one from my local dealer.
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then, there you have your goal. save up for the les paul. NEVER BUY ONE WITHOUT PLAYING IT though. i was tempted by so many vintage les paul customs on ebay, but i resisted and am buying the best one from my local dealer.


Yeah but getting the LP is far in the future. Even if I had the money to get it now I really wouldn't.

For now it's either the Soloist or the LTD


Also I'm really not to crazy about actives for some reason. Idk. I think the SL3 uses passives. The only way I'd get a guitar with actives if the juice was really worth the squeeze in terms of sound.

If I do choose the SL3 I'll probably wind up switching out the SD JB out for some sort of passive EMG or maybe even a SD Blackout if I'm feeling up to it, seeing as how I play a lot of metal.
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#13
No more thoughts?
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#14
The JB is pretty good for hi gain, although if you have an extra $75 lying around you can buy a duncan distortion for it.
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#15
Is there no way of you trying out the MH-1000? That would be the best way to test them and reading other people's opinions won't help too much.

Both guitars are good though.
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Is there no way of you trying out the MH-1000? That would be the best way to test them and reading other people's opinions won't help too much.

Both guitars are good though.


I'll probably go to a Sam Ash's this weekend and see what I can do.

I'm still unsure of both though. Just because, as others have put it, i

it's too close of a cut.
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#17
I like the MH-100 more, not a big fan of m-s-s, I really dont like singles at all.
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#18
I'm assuming by m/s/s/

you mean

?/single coil/single coil?

I didn't know hot rails were single coils. Strange...
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#19
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I'm assuming by m/s/s/

you mean

?/single coil/single coil?

I didn't know hot rails were single coils. Strange...

They are, but they are made to do HB tones.
But they don't sound like HBs or SCs imo, sort of in between...
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#20
The Soloist, its probably pure orgasm.
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#21
This went really bad for another vs. thread lol.
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Quote by TheBodomBullet
I'm assuming by m/s/s/

you mean

?/single coil/single coil?

I didn't know hot rails were single coils. Strange...


I meant h/s/s/
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#23
Definitely the Soloist. It's an incredible guitar. Plays nice, sounds great, looks cool...what more can you ask for?
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#24
IMO, the mh-1000 beats it in every way. better looks/sound/company
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#25
man i feel your dilemma. like most people are saying go try each one out side by side, theyre both amazing
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#26
i tested both of them out. the bridge pick up on both is really high output, i think the JACKSONs passive duncans screech a little more. the active emgs on the ESP are a little more bassy sounding, but really punchy. they both sound good though. they both have neck thru bodies, which is not only dead sexy, but good for sustain. they both have good action, but that could always be set to you liking. the jackson seems like the frets are a little larger, and easier to access the high notes on the neck if you have large fingers. If you have more slender fingers you'll find the ESP completely comfortable. They both play fast and have flat fretboards. as far as cosmetics. the ESP IMO is a little more fancy. you can have the nickel plated hardware and the pearl trim and inlays if you choose to. all the JACKSONs of the soloist model i had seen had black hardware, also you didn't have the option to get a reverse headstock which is pretty cool on a JACKSON. I chose the ESP because i was able to get it a little cheaper than the JACKSON. both are great guitars though, the only real way to find out which one you like is to go down and play both of them. good luck.
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Both of those are awesome, but you gotta think.. do you want a h/h pickup set or h/s/s because that's a big part of a choice like this.. If you've tried both of those out you should choose the one you think is sexier. I would personally go for the Ltd just because of that reason, but then again it's a ltd so it wont retain value as well as the Jackson. This probably didn't help... well anyways


Actually, the Middle and neck pickups are stacked humbuckers. Techincally, the SL3 is an HHH config, but it can go anyway you want. h/h/h h/s/s, h/s/h, h/h/s etc. etc.
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I tried it out in store.

Great neck, nice n light, good tuning stability. Overall a good guitar. I didn't but it cause I generally only buy guitars over a grand now.
#28
I've got my own thread about this, except my other choice is an Ibanez 1570 :p

Not trying to steal your thread or anything,

But does anyone know if the Soloist neck is finished? If it is, is there any way to remove the finish in order to make playability better? (Think Dinky neck. Nothing on it, just pure, sanded maple, or whathaveyou.)
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I tried it out in store.

Great neck, nice n light, good tuning stability. Overall a good guitar. I didn't but it cause I generally only buy guitars over a grand now.
#29
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IMO, the mh-1000 beats it in every way. better looks/sound/company

LOL better company. I think you meant to say "company who bases nearly everything they make on Jackson"

I have an older sl3 and I love it. Plays great and it is an hhh setup because they are just mini humbuckers (2 coils for each) they are extremely versatile though. I don't really like the floyd rose on the new sl3's though. It's not as smooth as the Jackson floyd rose which is pure sex (the one's on the new sl3's are made by a company called Ping)