#1
Ok, so I was planning on getting a new guitar for Christmas. I have read the FAQ and gotten a lot out of it, but I still need help with a few things.

What kind of guitar should I look for? The sound I am going for is a cross between the Smashing Pumpkins, and Metallica.

What are some things to look out for when trying the guitars out?

What are some good guitar stores in the Ocean/Monmouth county areas of New Jersey?

I already have a good amp, a Vox AD50VT. I love the sound i get out of the amp itself but my current guitar is really bad.

Suggestions or help?
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#3
Quote by Swap-Meet
Billy Corgan uses a strat (S/S/S)
whatever the **** the lead guitarist from metalicas name is uses ESP's with actives.

good luck trying to get a guitar that can sound like EMG's and single coils.

Yeah but didn't Hammett use a strat copy a lot around the And Justice For All/Black Album period?
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#7
well i think anything like a Les Paul could cover both, while Billy Corgan often overdubbed all the guitar parts himself....Live it was James Iha doing most of the Rhythm parts and James i believe played Les Pauls...and Les Pauls can get some awsome crunchy metal tones without EMGs.
#9
If you can stretch to $500, I'd recommend checking out the ESP M-200. Not too sure about $400, maybe check out the Schecter Damien-6.
#10
Quote by tigerking615
If you can stretch to $500, I'd recommend checking out the ESP M-200. Not too sure about $400, maybe check out the Schecter Damien-6.

I wont be able to stretch it past $400.
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#12
i live near you and i got my guitar from toms river music. that's really the only place around here that sell's decent gear unless you wanna go all the way up to guitar center or sam ash, but they're pretty out of the way.
i used to be a mod, then i took an arrow in the knee.
#13
Quote by mikeyElite
i live near you and i got my guitar from toms river music. that's really the only place around here that sell's decent gear unless you wanna go all the way up to guitar center or sam ash, but they're pretty out of the way.

Like how out of the way?

My mom and I are gonna go to a bunch on thanksgiving weekend so we want the biggest selection possible.
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#14
there's a Sam Ash in Edison and Cherry Hill and a Guitar Center in Atlantic City, Cherry Hill, East Brunswick, North Paramus, Paramus, Springfield and Totowa

there's also a guitar store in Lakewood somewhere i don't remember the name off the top of my head but if i remember it i'll post it.
i used to be a mod, then i took an arrow in the knee.
#15
Quote by mikeyElite
there's a Sam Ash in Edison and Cherry Hill and a Guitar Center in Atlantic City, Cherry Hill, East Brunswick, North Paramus, Paramus, Springfield and Totowa

there's also a guitar store in Lakewood somewhere i don't remember the name off the top of my head but if i remember it i'll post it.

Ok, thanks. This will really help.

One last question, where are you from in Jersey?
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#16
Don't know any specific models, but with that kind of variety, I highly recommend a guitar with a coil tap feature, so you can switch back and forth between humbucker and single coil tones. An ESP, Schecter or an Ibanez would probably be your best bet.
#18
Quote by IPlaySchecter
Stay away from ibanez! At that price range they are mass produced overrated junk!

I happen to own a $150 Ibanez....

Its sentimental, dont mock it.
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#19
Quote by grenade24
Ok, thanks. This will really help.

One last question, where are you from in Jersey?


pm'ed you.
i used to be a mod, then i took an arrow in the knee.
#20
Quote by grenade24
I happen to own a $150 Ibanez....

Its sentimental, dont mock it.

Sorry to hear that my friend.
#22
I'm n ot sure but i know alot of scheters have coil tap so check them out but im not positive if theres one in ur budget
My Gear:
Jackson DK2M
PRS Paul Allender Sig
Epiphone SG Special
Fender Blues Jr.
Roland Micro Cube
#23
Ok, I'm going tomorrow. Any last minute recommendations?
What should i watch out for when I'm trying the guitars out?
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#24
Quote by grenade24
Ok, so I was planning on getting a new guitar for Christmas. I have read the FAQ and gotten a lot out of it, but I still need help with a few things.

What kind of guitar should I look for? The sound I am going for is a cross between the Smashing Pumpkins, and Metallica.

What are some things to look out for when trying the guitars out?

What are some good guitar stores in the Ocean/Monmouth county areas of New Jersey?

I already have a good amp, a Vox AD50VT. I love the sound i get out of the amp itself but my current guitar is really bad.

Suggestions or help?


Dude, for the money your looking to spend get a Fernandes Guitar
www.fernandesguitars.com

they look awesome, play awesome and even the inexpensive models are really good

check on line!!
#25
Two places I know of in the south Jersey area for good guitars

Garden State Music Center
732-255-9331

or

Steve's Custom Guitars
888-544-8885

Hope this Helps!!!
#26
Quote by Jeffmo929
Two places I know of in the south Jersey area for good guitars

Garden State Music Center
732-255-9331

or

Steve's Custom Guitars
888-544-8885

Hope this Helps!!!


garden state music has a crappy selection of guitars, they're only good for school band instruments, i.e. trumpets,flutes,etc.

and they're ignorant.
i used to be a mod, then i took an arrow in the knee.
#28
have you looked at the micheal kelly patriot shadow? Might be worth looking at.
#29
Ok, I'm going tomorrow. Any last minute recommendations?
What should i watch out for when I'm trying the guitars out?



How to try out guitars

Before you select a guitar, there are a few things you need to think over.
-The style of music you play.
-A budget you can live with.
-How long you've been playing. If you've ever owned a guitar before.
We all gravitate towards the guitar that looks the Hawtest, but looks and color, shouldn't be your first concern.
Wood type, bridge type, pickup configuration, guitar weight, brand reputation, and UG member recommendations should all come into play.
You need to have in mind, a few guitars that suit you best, before you even walk into the store.

Walking into The Store:

Wait, you've already blown it! Are you sure you're in the right place? Most of us only have a couple of options.
Ideally you live in an area with large chains, and local shops. Keep in mind that large chains pay their workers with commission. A money driven worker will not be working towards your best interest, no matter how nice he seems. Local shops might be able to offer you a better deal, but they don't carry as large a selection.
It's good to get prices online, some stores will even match competitor's prices, but whenever possible, physically play as many guitars as possible. Keep in mind that in most cases, the recommended list price for a guitar, is about twice its actual selling price.
In addition, when you are trying to get more guitar for the money, It might be worth your time to look into local pawn shops, classified Ads or to check out Ebay. There are some good deals out there, you just need to know where to look.

Take a Friend:

Guitar stores can be overwhelming. When possible, bring a guitar playing friend with you, preferably someone with purchasing experience. You want him to be objective and to run interference for you, if you run into any pushy sales associates.
Start off by finding the models and styles in your price range. If you aren't happy with the choices, at least you'll create a basis for comparison.
If you have a favorite type of pick, make sure you have one in your pocket. You want to feel as comfortable as possible.
There's no reason to call over a sales associate just yet, because you should start off by playing your choices acoustically.

Testing a Guitar:

Once you're certain about the model, you're ready to test some guitars. Don't be afraid to ask for one off the wall. When they don't want one played, they will usually tag it, but it's a good idea to leave the top shelf guitars alone unless they are in your price range. Let the sales staff know you're serious and they will be more willing to work with you on a good deal.
To make things simple, I've made a checklist.
Before playing...
-Sit down in a quiet area and feel the guitars weight. Make sure it's balanced, and suited to your size.
-Move the knobs and switch. Make sure they are tight.
-Go to the input jack, see if it wiggles.
-Lift the guitar to your face. Check the headstock and neck joint for small cracks or chips.
-See if the neck looks straight.
-Shake the guitar. Listen for loose parts.
-Look at the fretboard. Make sure there are no wood imperfections, raised or crooked frets. Make sure the frets don't poke through the side of the board.
Before plugging in....
-Strum and fret each string. You're listening for fret buzz.
Keep in mind, guitars aren't always set up prior to placement on the selling floor.
Sometimes they aren't even tuned. Action and fret buzz are USUALLY adjustable, but the guitar shouldn't buzz and rattle everywhere.
-Check the guitar's harmonics. Compare tones at the 12th. See if the guitar is intonated.
-Make sure the board isn't too wide for you. See if you can reach the higher frets.
-Make sure the bridge saddles are level, with no sharp points.
-Make sure the tuners don't feel loose.
Amp it up...
-Ok, find the pain in the ass sales guy. You'll need a guitar cable, and an amp,
JUST LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE AT HOME!!!!
Don't Let him plug you into a $1,000 amp. You're testing the guitar not the amp.
-If possible, have a riff ready. If you're tagged as a complete noob, you'll get less respect.
-Use the switch. Select the neck pickup. Select the bridge. Listen for crackling noises.
Roll the knobs and listen for noise. Touch and lift your hand off the bridge, listen for buzzing that stops when you ground it. If you're into Metal, and are looking at a humbucker guitar, expect to hear less noise than if you were testing a single-coil guitar.
-Check the pickups with the amp on clean and with gain.
Questions to Ask...
-Hopefully you already know the wood type of your choice guitar. You need to make sure the salesman knows that you've done your homework.
"Do you have any other Mahogany guitars in this price range, you could recommend?"
-Let the salesman know that you've noticed any imperfections.
"I like this ibanez, but I'm picking up fretbuzz through the amp. Do your guitars come
setup?"
-Spend a while playing the guitar. Look upset even if you like the guitar.
"What can I get this guitar for?" "Does this guitar come with a case?"
You want to walk out of there, with as many free extras as possible. Especially if you've found anything wrong with the guitar. Any minor flaw, might work as a bargaining chip.
- "What's your return policy?"
Final thoughts...
IF YOU LIKE THE GUITAR ON THE SALES FLOOR, TAKE THAT GUITAR, NOT ONE FROM THE STOCKROOM. Unless it's a floor model, you should still get a box for it. You just don't want to take the time to find the perfect guitar, only to end up with a lemon in the end.
Also keep in mind, stores make a lot of money off of purchase insurance. In almost every case, it's not worth it to buy protection on a guitar. Except for the neck, every part is easily replaced. In addition, any flaws would be apparent within the usual 30 day return time frame.

Good Luck, Jenny


and think about picking up a high gain distortion pedal for metal.
Jenneh

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Jenny needs to sow her wild oats with random Gibsons and Taylors she picks up in bars before she settles down with a PRS.


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