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Hey guys, I mainly use standard minor pentatonic scales to write my guitar parts, but I kinda get bored and was wondering what some other good scales to use for improvising and writing were. Currently I play clean leads beside an acoustic guitar with an occasional distorted solo. Recommendations?
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harmonic minor scale. it pwns for soloing.
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look up such jazz scales as mixolydian and ionian, just because something is jazz doesnt mean it cant be applied in the jazz world. a mixolydian is a regular male scale except you drop the 5th a half step and i cant remember ionian off the top of my head
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I would start with the major scale, it might not be your FAVORITE one but once you have learned if you can learn the other scales faster seeing as they all kind of deviate from it. Check all kinds of scales here Look no Hands
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Hey guys, I mainly use standard minor pentatonic scales to write my guitar parts, but I kinda get bored and was wondering what some other good scales to use for improvising and writing were. Currently I play clean leads beside an acoustic guitar with an occasional distorted solo. Recommendations?


Standard Major and Minor and learn them properly. Then learn to phrase well and that will be all you need unless you get into non-diatonic chord progressions and/or jazz.
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+1 to joker and zaphod...you can't actually learn any other scales until you know the major scale.

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harmonic minor scale. it pwns for soloing.

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look up such jazz scales as mixolydian and ionian, just because something is jazz doesnt mean it cant be applied in the jazz world. a mixolydian is a regular male scale except you drop the 5th a half step and i cant remember ionian off the top of my head


Mixolydian is major minor 7th. . . . hence why G major has a sharp F. . . because G is naturally the mixolydian mode. . . . and has a half step drop emphasis on the 7th note. . . . Ionian is the natural major scale, w-w-h-w-w-w-h. . . .

Ionian is simply a name for the diatonic mode that forms the natural major scale. . . Mixolydian is the fifth diatonic mode of that scale. So if you are in C major, G will be your mixolydian mode. G major, D will be the mixolydian mode. . . and so on and so forth.

Examples for Mixolydian:
G Mixolydian: G-A-B-C-D-E-F-G
C Mixolydian: C-D-E-F-G-A-Bb-C
A Mixolydian: A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G

Examples for Ionian:
G Ionian: G-A-B-C-D-E-F#-G
C Ionian: C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C
A Ionian: A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-A
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definately major/minor in all the positions and on all the strings separately. From there the whole fretboard will be yours.
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Hey guys, I mainly use standard minor pentatonic scales to write my guitar parts, but I kinda get bored and was wondering what some other good scales to use for improvising and writing were. Currently I play clean leads beside an acoustic guitar with an occasional distorted solo. Recommendations?


Learn all seven modes, also figure out how to play the pentatonic and blues pentatonics in the same key all over the fret board (5 different positions.... for the blues scale add a flat 5th)

and harmonic minor (raised 7th) and diminished scale as well!!
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Learn all seven modes, also figure out how to play the pentatonic and blues pentatonics in the same key all over the fret board (5 different positions.... for the blues scale add a flat 5th)

and harmonic minor (raised 7th) and diminished scale as well!!

Can't do any of that stuff properly without a good working knoweldge of the major scale.
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Phrygian dominant! Middle-eastern style ftw.

Haha yes, such a fun thing to play. Especially with a real twangy tone.
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Can't do any of that stuff properly without a good working knoweldge of the major scale.



so very simply...start out in the key of C Major C D E F G A B C

and work it from there....every other mode will start on the next scale degree
D dorian, E phrygian, F lydian, G mixolydian, A aeolan (minor scale), B locrian
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I kind of like the chromatic. Lots of note choices there. Don't get stuck on scales and your playing will have no feel. Listen to what sounds right.
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so very simply...start out in the key of C Major C D E F G A B C

and work it from there....every other mode will start on the next scale degree
D dorian, E phrygian, F lydian, G mixolydian, A aeolan (minor scale), B locrian

That's a gross oversimplification of modes, and you don't just jump straight into them - that's exactly the reason there's so much confusion and misinformation about them....

knowing "C D E F G A B" doesn't really equate to having a good working knowledge of the major scale.
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harmonic minor scale. it pwns for soloing.

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That's a gross oversimplification of modes, and you don't just jump straight into them - that's exactly the reason there's so much confusion and misinformation about them....

knowing "C D E F G A B" doesn't really equate to having a good working knowledge of the major scale.



that's how I started....I can solo in ANY key all over the neck using this basic mode knowledge

you can look at the modes two different ways....

1) play them in the same key in different positions and use the shapes as a map to have the FREEDOM to solo ALL over the neck

2) play each mode starting on the SAME note to get the idea of there tonal qualities

either way they help with soloing

but I agree, he should start with the basic Pentatonic scales FIRST and learn them in the same key all over the neck...then alter it using the blues pentatonic.

use Aminor Pentatonic as a good referance: A C D E G
AND A minor Blues Pentatonic : A C D E(FLAT) E G
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Quote by steven seagull
That's a gross oversimplification of modes, and you don't just jump straight into them - that's exactly the reason there's so much confusion and misinformation about them....

knowing "C D E F G A B" doesn't really equate to having a good working knowledge of the major scale.


Yeah, I'd be looking more for like. . . . .

Ionian- 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
Dorian- 1-2-b3-4-5-6-b7
Phrygian- 1-b2-b3-4-5-b6-b7
Lydian- 1-2-3-#4-5-6-7
Mixolydian- 1-2-3-4-5-6-b7
Aeolian- 1-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7
Locrian- 1-b2-b3-4-b5-b6-b7

and no, this was not a douchey reply, though I don't believe it seemed that way at any rate. . . . but at least this way if the person decides to look into the modes they have the formulae just sitting right in front of them to check by. . . . hehe..
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