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#1
for me slow sounds heavier, some pig destroyer songs sound heavy as **** to me, but usually it's the slow shit

.. so slow or fast?
#4
I would hafta say slower stuff seems heavier to me. Doom Metal FTW!!
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Both.

Electric Wizard and Nile sound about as heavy as each other to me.
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#6
Both, but it's 2 different kinds of heavy.
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Fast and slow at the same time.


Electric Wizard riffs over a blast beat?

Fast Nile riffing over a half time groove?

Sounds like win
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#11
it's all about presentation! She Rides by Danzig is just as heavy as Wait and Bleed by Slip Knot, it's just a different heavy
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#17
depends more on how it's played. Speed and/or Tuning have very little to do with heaviness.
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#18
Fast. Slow may be able to sound quite brutal, but nothing can compare to low E string tremolo picking, rapid-fire drums, guttural vocals and a deadly bassline all at once.

Actually, I think the fact that I'm listening to Akercocke right now may have influenced my decision just a bit.


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Fast and slow at the same time.


The start of this song is a perfect example of this... I hope.

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depends more on how it's played. Speed and/or Tuning have very little to do with heaviness.

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Anyone can tremelo pick the low E string with some fast drums.

Takes good note selection and proper phrasing to make a riff heavy to me.
#20
Slow Palm muted crunches sound much heavier than a fast intriquite riff, but who cares. thats sound. i go by my opinion of what is heavy. =) As I Lay Dying FTW
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#21
All depends on the layering of the tracks, not really the tempo. I'll use All That Remains as an example.

I loved The Fall of Ideals. Great album, most of the tracks were pretty heavy, and pretty fast. the drums were layered to be pretty audible and the bass was layered pretty high up as well.

Their newest album, Overcome, is a lot less heavy. The guitars got layered way above everything else, leaving a lack of low end. 'tis the low end that brings the brutality imo.

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#22
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Both, but it's 2 different kinds of heavy.


Bingo. Dead on!

Cannibal Corpse is fast, and heavy. Grave is slow (usually...) and still heavy. Just like how the tuning doesn't make the music anymore heavy, it's all in the riff and beat together.
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ABR has some nasty breakdowns
another example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5JY0lVpBYg&feature=related

i cant wait for them get back in the states and work on their new album


slow + heavy =/= breakdowns.

See Electric Wizard and just about all other stoner/doom bands: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XWHplp10kQM
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I'm not so big on eyehategod personaly but they are indeed heavy as hell, I'm more of an Electric Wizard, Sleep/High on Fire, Orange Gobin and Cathedral kind of guy.
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#28
Slower more groove oriented riffs seem heavier to me. A New Level by Pantera is a good example.

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what makes a breakdown then?


Breakdowns may be slow and heavy but slow and heavy doesn't automatically make it a breakdown. Check out more doom and be educated.
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#32
slow.
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#33
+1 to the "It's how it's played comment". That part in Battery, just after the solo (3:47) is effing brutal. And I think a lot of heaviness is in contrasting tempos....like the drums and guitars in the spot I just mentioned. Fast melody over slow tempo is good, and fast tempo over slow melody is even better.
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#34
I don't know. Corpse is decently fact, and they're heavy. Electric Wizard are slow, and they're heavy.
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Breakdowns may be slow and heavy but slow and heavy doesn't automatically make it a breakdown. Check out more doom and be educated.

i think a breakdown is a part of a song where there is a significant change in tempo where guitars have particular repeated heavy riffs. this is then usually accompanied by double bass drums for a defined sound. Vocals may be added and are usually slow and deep.
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i think a breakdown is a part of a song where there is a significant change in tempo where guitars have particular repeated heavy riffs. this is then usually accompanied by double bass drums for a defined sound. Vocals may be added and are usually slow and deep.


What makes this not a bridge?

Breakdowns = spin kicks.
Bridge = circle pit.

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#37
I'd go with songs that have a 'solid' pace as heavier, on the slow side but not dragging on, like When the Levee Breaks. Most people won't agree with me on that song being very heavy though so... :P
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i think a breakdown is a part of a song where there is a significant change in tempo where guitars have particular repeated heavy riffs. this is then usually accompanied by double bass drums for a defined sound. Vocals may be added and are usually slow and deep.


You are an idiot. I am well aware of exactly what a breakdown is, I'm trying to get it into your head that a slow song doesn't have to be one long breakdown. Go and listen to lots of doom, stoner, funeral doom and drone doom and please try to understand.
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What makes this not a bridge?

Breakdowns = spin kicks.
Bridge = circle pit.


it makes it both a bridge and a breakdown i never said it wasnt a bridge i was just saying what i think a breakdown is.
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#40
I think we're all confusing heavy with brutal. They are similar, but not the same thing. Honestly though, it depends on the listener. What's heavier is just opinion.
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