#1
What do you think ages should be for stuff like porn and swearing?

I think its a bit overboard when its illegal for me to watch a movie because someone in the movie calls someone else a ****. Or it has sexii ladiis in it.

Whats your opinion on censorship?

DEVEDIT: Or when people set up Family servers on R16 games and expect people not to swear. That totally defeats the purpose of the rating on the game. (I Think)
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#2
Parents discretion.
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If you call them "sexii ladiis", you're probably too young.

But yeah, parental discretion.
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#4
Where the hell do you live that it's illegal to swear?

Age of swearing: Puberty

Age of pr0n: Puberty +2 years.
#5
Here in country Australia, it's very stereotypical - little kids who are 5 or 6 might call you a cunt...and they will!

I've been completely insulted to hell because I'm eloquent.

Example:

Me: "Yes, it's rainy. Shall we dance (which I naturally pronounce darn-ce) outside?"
Random Girl: "What the fuck is with you? You talk like you're from the 1800's or something! What are you, English?"

Sorry, off topic.

But people have been swearing/pr0n viewing for a long, long time, and they're getting younger. But I am against internet censorship.
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I say get rid of that shit.
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Here in country Australia, it's very stereotypical - little kids who are 5 or 6 might call you a cunt...and they will!

I've been completely insulted to hell because I'm eloquent.

Example:

Me: "Yes, it's rainy. Shall we dance (which I naturally pronounce darn-ce) outside?"
Random Girl: "What the fuck is with you? You talk like you're from the 1800's or something! What are you, English?"

Sorry, off topic.

But people have been swearing/pr0n viewing for a long, long time, and they're getting younger. But I am against internet censorship.



I think that's only a problem in Australia

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#10
Here is an interesting thing. In the UK you are legal to have sex at 16, but you can't watch such things untill 18.
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Here is an interesting thing. In the UK you are legal to have sex at 16, but you can't watch such things untill 18.


That's because you need to build an understanding of sex by practice rather than by watching other people do it. Most of the stuff they do in porn is degrading or painful or disgusting- going straight in with only that knowledge means someone is going to have a bad time.
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If you call them "sexii ladiis", you're probably too young.

But yeah, parental discretion.



but yeah, parents choice
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could have been 3 's but there wasn't nearly enough exclamation marks to emphasize the anger/disbelief

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censorship rules are dumb

in the UK you can have sex at 16but you cant watch porn until you are 18

in the USA you can star in a porno at 18 but cant watch it until you are 21...

So you can get f*cked on camera three years before you can f*ck someone you actually love?
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So you can get f*cked on camera three years before you can f*ck someone you actually love?


You can also legally own a gun, and get jailed for being a homosexual.
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DEVEDIT: Or when people set up Family servers on R16 games and expect people not to swear. That totally defeats the purpose of the rating on the game. (I Think)

you disagree with the ratings system but when someone does something to get around those ratings you disagree with that?
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#17
Well, my upbringing was completely different from a lot of peoples. I've called my dad a dumbf*ck and other such stuff. Thus I think swearing shouldnt realy be limited at all. Its only a problem when it limits active vocabulary.
As for the censorship of sex, I'm all for open sexuality and stuff like that, except for one problem: little kids have no idea what they're doing, and only do it because it is thrown at them by pop-culture. In the words of Yarah Bravo "hiphop videos contain only one fully dressed MC". Some 4th and 5th graders had sex in school a few months ago, and I dont think that is right. However, I do believe that a 20 year old can have sex with a 13 year old if they both understand what they are doing {which, most of the time. they dont).
Just a PS for exposition: I refuse to take a girl's virginity, because I dont love them. Of all the girls I'e hooked up with, I can only stand one or two for more than an hour if they start talking.
#19
no censorship! warni8ngs im fine with but i hate it when yor not alowed to see stuf n shit
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#20
I also do not believe in any form of forced censorhip, Warnings are fine. Especially in the day and age it's become pointless, the second a kid gets on the internet he's going to see all that shit you've been hiding from them.
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censorship rules are dumb

in the UK you can have sex at 16 but you cant watch porn until you are 18

that's always confused the piss out of me too. How come I'm allowed to shoot my soldiers into a womans vagina at 16 but have to wait a whole 2 years before i can do it in a sock? I may be wrong here but I'm pretty sure the sock isn't the one that could get pregnant....
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I'm against censorship, if kids are old enough to swear, then they're old enough to get their asses kicked.
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That's because you need to build an understanding of sex by practice rather than by watching other people do it. Most of the stuff they do in porn is degrading or painful or disgusting- going straight in with only that knowledge means someone is going to have a bad time.


I've been watching porn since i was about 10 or 11 - My first time is not going to be like a porno. (Atm, girlfriend but both virgins in my case).

I'm not going to be trying to sodomise the poor girl dry and slap her round.

Porn is good for one thing... and that isn't learning how to shag somebody. Good for getting off to...but that's about it.

Anyway... against censorship here. Not like it works anyway. Jonny Smith, Age 5 is still going to get grandma to buy him Grand Theft Auto 4 or Scarface because he's not old enough.
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I also do not believe in any form of forced censorhip, Warnings are fine. Especially in the day and age it's become pointless, the second a kid gets on the internet he's going to see all that shit you've been hiding from them.


i pretty much agree.

i think parental discretion needs to take over censorship. people complain too much about this or that but they won't take responsibility for censoring what their children watch. i get tired of watching Fight Club on G4 and them censoring the word "shit".

and those video game servers which people ask "no swearing" are fine. people can make their servers however they want. if you wanna play in a server where people talk like on 4chan, go to a different server.
#25
I think parental discression is a good idea as long as the parent in question isn't socially retarded. by that I mean the sort of parents who will buy their children a violent game with a blatent 18 sticker on the front and then get outraged and blame the creators for making it because they didnt open their eyes and see a giant, red 18 certificate on the front of it.
the mass effect "sex scene" debate comes to mind as well.
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#26
This thread doesn't appear to be about censorship at all, age ratings aren't the same thing as censorship. Censorship is surpressing human expression whereas age ratings are there to protect the vulnerable from materials thought to be beyond their understanding of a subject.

Given that it seems common to blame violent movies and games for youth-violence I can't see the law being relaxed any time soon. Sucks to be you.

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#27
Rating systems are meant to drive certain crowds away from a whatever it is that is in question. I wrote a 10 page paper on why censorship should be eliminated in America for my senior project in high school. Were you aware of how ineffective school and library firewalls are? On the lowest setting they block just about the same number of bad sites as they do on the highest security setting, while the rate of good sites blocked, for example a health website that may mention aspects of human anatomy, is ridiculous in proportion to the bad sites being blocked (and everybody at my high school knew how to get around the firewall no matter how strong it was, there are times when you just need to access youtube damnit) Censorship should be abolished in any form. When parents have kids their job then becomes PARENTING, what a novel idea. If that means sitting with your kid for a few hours while he or she browses the internet, or watching tv with them it is their job to supervise their kids. And honestly we have some naive parents out there. Their kid is going to know a lot more than the parents think by the time they hit 5th grade. I knew just about every swear word, a ton of sexual terms, etc. in elementary school just by what kids would say in the course of a normal day. I say just let the kids grow up not being so sheltered, but supervise them to make sure they aren't viewing porn and such at 10 or 11 which will mess up their developing minds.
#28
age ratings are a form of censorship in as much as the people who put the ratings on are deciding what age they think people should be to see/hear/do something whether that decision is right or wrong. although the movie rating system is severely flawed. a good example is the film blade. In the UK it was an 18 but there were a few punches and kicks removed from fight scenes on the dvd version because the BBFC said that 15 year olds may see it. now if the BBFC themselves are aware that people are watching films underage, why do they even bother and also, how is a few punches and kicks going to influence a 15 year old any more than what was left in?


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Censorship
–noun
1. the act or practice of censoring.
2. the office or power of a censor.
3. the time during which a censor holds office.
4. the inhibiting and distorting activity of the Freudian censor

cutting bits out of a film to make it suitable for a certain audience is censoring it because they are changing how the wirtter/director intended the film to be seen
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in the USA you can star in a porno at 18 but cant watch it until you are 21...

No. Maybe you can't watch it until you're 21 in your area, but it isn't a nationwide law.

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If there wasn't censorship UG would be the baby brother of 4chan.
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#33
I actually agree with censorship to an extent. Kids under 15 shouldn't be exposed to strong violence, sex, etc. They simply don't have the maturity to fully understand it. Though my views on swearing are quite different to this, calling someone a '****' has the exact same meaning of calling someone a poo-head (no different in my eyes... well ears if you want to get technical). In Australia after you're 15 you can basically see anything except hardcore sex or extreme violence / extreme adult themes. I think it works.

Of course I don't think anything should be censored to adults (with the exception of some extremes like child pornography).
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Of course I don't think anything should be censored to adults (with the exception of some extremes like child pornography).


no, it should all be deleted and the makers should be hung, drawn and quatered