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not sure why others are making this complicated. the short answer is yes you can plug a guitar into a bass amp. usual guitar chord into input of amp. how good it will sound will depend on the amp but it certainly can be done. although the original Fender Bassman was intended as a bass amp many guitar players used ift for great sounds. the Rolling Stones used Ampeg bass amps in the early 70s as well. 
this question is like asking a guy which is the worst way to get his dick bit off. lots of potential answers but none of them are good.  
Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
I don't believe that it makes much (if any) meaningful difference to tone. But I personally wouldn't buy it. I admit to being prejudiced against LP's that don't have a mahogany body for the sake of tradition.

have to agree. if they can't at least  pretend its mahogany and use something like nato then i just can't do it. tried  an alder LP copy and it just didn't have the LP sound. 
Quote by marco772
monwobobbo They weren't THAT cheap at £60 and £75 respectively. That said, most of my pedals are on the budget d (but carefully selected from having good reviews). 2 of the distortion pedals were sent to me for free to review so I thought I'd keep them all for now as each is different tonally. My amp is a Fender Mustang V2 set to clean mode. The OD is fine by itself with the wah, as is the distortion, it's when they are both engaged the noise occurs. Removing the wahs eliminates the noise.

i'd look into the power supply thing as sometimes that is the problem. otherwise it sounds like there is some kind of signal miss match. have you check all of your chords? 

no offense on the pedals price wise. bottom line though is the donner and behringer are both pretty cheap and been known to have problems at times. the EH is somewhat better but again they are known to have issues as well. not all of my pedals are boutique either so i get it. some times pedals just don't work well together when stacked. have you tried a different overdrive? 
they sound far better than most of Marshall's solid state efforts.  don't recall them sounding a whole lot like a JCM 800 but they work for metal tones fairly well. 
Quote by JELIFISH19
I would also add that a beginner probably isn't good enough to sound good. Most good players will sound good through anything. Most bad players will sound bad through anything. Great sounding gear compliments good players. And I say great because beginners have access to a lot of good gear these days. Most beginners don't know what they want. They haven't developed their style and tastes yet. That why most beginners #1 requirement for gear is versatility which is the opposite of what most people look for as they develop into experienced guitarists.

real good point. beginners don't sound good and it takes time to just not suck let alone sound good.  you could have the best setup ever and if you can't play ti wil be a waste. when i was teaching i had a beginner speech that mentioned the fact that as a new player you will suck no exceptions.  i dunno if experienced players don't look for versatility i think most of us do. the big difference is that we know how to get the most out of any piece of gear. 
Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
It depends on what your level of expectations are. If you're demanding an amp that can hang with a Mesa or an EVH, you need to either raise your budget significantly or lower your expectations.

Of course getting started is always going to be painful for most people. but if spending a little bit more money makes that process that little bit less painful, then its worth it.

if you just started to play then i can't see demanding an amp that can hang with a Mesa or EVH. chances are you don't know diddly about either amp let alone be worried about "hanging" with them.  we are talking beginners here. down the road once you've learned the basics and have developed  an ear then it's time to start worrying more about higher quality gear. 
loved Uli in the Scorpions. his first couple of solo albums had some good stuff on them as well. he got a little out there for my tastes for a while though. i have the album he put out about 6 years ago and it had some nice playing on it. the Sky guitar is certainly unique that's for sure. 
Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
Well either way, both of us are just giving anecdotes of good experiences with spending a lot of money and anecdotes to the contrary. Buying cheap doesn't work for everyone, neither does always buying something expensive.

I just hate it when people buy cheap pieces of shit to start with and it totally fails to inspire them and they quit 6 months later. It happens far too often in the guitar world and is part of the reason why 95% of people quit playing guitar after 18 months. When spending under $500 total for a guitar rig, you get what you pay for. The more money you spend, the more a rig is going to inspire you to practice and ergo the better a guitarist you'll become in the long term. Novices are typically too afraid to spend enough money to buy a decent rig so that they don't lose so much money when they quit. That attitude often becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

if you can't find a good setup for under $500 then you aren't doing things right.  a Peavey VIP, Fender Mustang or Boss Katana all can be had for less than $200 and there are certainly plenty of guitars new or used for say $2-250 all over the place. that is all you need to get started and certainly way better than the total crap i had to start with. believe me (or any of the other older members here) new guitar gear on the lower end is so much better than what was available  when i started it's not even funny.  not knowing that getting a good setup for your guitar likely is a bigger reason for failure than a cheap guitar.  people quit because they find out it's not easy or immediately satisfying and that isn't anything new. you don't guy a guitar and sound like Slash 6 months later and maybe never (i know i don't 40 years later). 

don't get me wrong crap gear certainly does get in the way and can discourage a player for sure. thing is that with a little wise buying you can avoid that for the most part. the internet is full of info you just have to bright enough to actually look for it. i would have killed for all the info that is easily available now back when i started to play in the 70s. 
although it's great that you are helping your wife and being supportive it seems like you did no homework up front on this. her amp has built in fx so why did you buy pedals?  the other thing is that often pedals don't play nice with modeled fx in an amp.  the wah is the only thing you got her than makes sense. 

a pedal board wasn't really needed and at home i just plop my pedals on the floor. anyways

wah first, distortion 2nd CS-3 3rd and delay last.  you may want to experiment with the CS-3 placement though as i'm sure others would place it differently. 
Quote by marco772
monwobobboThanks, I will try that and let you know. I've tried 3 ways so far, the Donner, the EHX and a Hellbabe.

3 really cheap pedals.  the power supply idea is definitely worth investigating.   there may also be a signal mismatch from a wah into that OD. try with different pedla in the 2nd slot.

also have to ask why so many distortion pedals? what amp are you using? 
Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
If I cannot understand how to use a certain amp, then it doesn't fit my needs.

And yes, when I first started out playing guitar, I got the best gear I could possibly afford. It worked out for me in the end because after 14 years of playing guitar, I'm still here.

not a good statement. just because you don't know how to use something in no way invalidates it. alls it means is you don't know how to get the best out of it.  while it may indeed not suite your purposes by your logic you'll never know for sure. 

i'm with H4T3BR33d3R on this. newbies don't need high end gear whether they can afford it or not. not saying buy shit gear just something that will help you learn and not break the bank. it's far better to have some experience when you start spending real money on anything.  a buddy of mine back in the day decided since another friend of ours and i both were playing guitar that he wanted to be cool and play to. his first guitar was a LP Custom. it was the ugliest ash tray tobacco  i've ever seen. played like crap and just plain wasn't a good guitar. he didn't ask for any help when buying it (though we happened to be at the guitar shop when he did). the store of course told him it was the best one and gave him a "deal" ($800 back in 1983). after about 3 months that guitar sat on a stand for another 12 years before he needed money and sold it forr far less than what he paid. 

OP something like a Peavey Vypyr or VIP series would likely do you just fine. presets often are really disappointing and sound little like what they should. 
what other wahs have you tried? 2 doesn't really constitute "any". if i had to guess i'd say the 2 wahs you have don't fully disengage from the wah to direct tone.  not sure if either has a buffer as that could be the issue as well. have you tried running the wah into just that first OD with nothing else?  might be a collective issue or even a bad cable. experiment some and let us know what happens
Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
I wouldn't consider the Peavey Valveking to be all that good of a high gain amp to be honest. Its got a good clean channel but for high gain tones it gets awfully woolly in the lows and fizzy in the highs. Definitely not ideal if modern metal if what you're trying to go for. If modern metal is what you want, consider getting a new amp first.


totally agree. as a VK user i can definitely say it's not the amp for modern high gain metal.  the open back isn't good for well defined and tight bass. not sure what fx you use but i hope you use an overdrive at least. i find tha the VK's gain is only good up until 4-5 range and then as stated it starts to lose definition. works fine for say 70s Judas Priest or early 80s NWOBHM stuff like Diamond Head but past that it really doesn't deliver. 

i would consider getting something like a Peavey 6505+ before deciding on new pickups . trying to get the sound you want out of your current set up may lead to choices that won't sound as good if you get a different amp. you may also just get discouraged needlessly if the new pups still don't deliver with the VK. 
Quote by jmtoomey89
So I got a budget of 300 using as a practice amp to do covers I have a HSS Strat and can’t decide between the Katana 50 or the Champion 50XL not looking for anything complicated that needs a app just a simple dial in amp

would be helpful to know what types of music you play, fav bands, guitar players etc. to give a useful answer
Quote by Tony Done
monwobobbo

I'm not well up on this, but I did a quick bit of research a few minutes ago. - From what I read, they are using pau ferro on MIMs and rosewood (whatever it might be) on MIAs. Isn't the guitar in question MIA?

the guitar is MIA . it was my understanding that they were switching to Pau Ferro and started with the MIM series.  could be wrong but i think they said they were also going that route with the US guitars except the vintage reissue ones. 

a little quick research shows that the US models are indeed still rosewood so i stand corrected on that.  high quality rosewood is likely harder to get and expensivve so we get what we get on those. 
Fender uses Pau Ferro for all but a very few high end guitars these days so that is why it looks different. 
Quote by romandawesome
monwobobbo That's what I thought, I have 5 springs on it and the high e just keeps winding regardless.

if that is the case then you aren't doing it right.  the springs for the trem have nothing to do with the tuners. when putting the string through the tuner make sure that it is going straight pull it through the tuner lock it and then tune it shouldn't need more than a quarter turn to go into tune. also make sure you stretch your strings  until they stay in tune. 
if the strings are pulled through all the way you shouldn't get a wind.  also if the tuners are staggered (and i'd think they are) then you don't need string trees as they just get in the way. 
Quote by dannyalcatraz
Here’s something cool:



hope those pencils used great tone wood. 
Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
Thread's over folks. The only correct answer is right in front of you. ^^

not necessarily. just because you can afford something doesn't make it a good deal or "worth it"  

as for the guitar posted you aren't paying for the guitar but rather the right to have a unique item (and give to charity).  all the autographs in one place is what you paid for. 

now to the to much thing. that is totally subjective. my main strat is a MIM despite my owning a US model ( Strat +) . yup the MIM was cheaper but that in no way makes the US guitar not worth it or not as good. for whatever reason the MIM just works better for me. someone else may say it's crap. 

buy what you can afford and buy a guitar that works for you without letting price influence you to much. you may find your perfect axe for $1500 or $500 you never know. 
it's an ok practice amp but otherwise you may as well get a Bandit as that is the better amp. 
Quote by djmarcelca
monwobobbo
That's a big Ol not gonna happen.

Simply because I don't want to deal with Copywrite claims from YouTube.
THere are links in the video description to the band website/spotify/itunes etc.

As well as links to the opening song itunes/spotify/etc...

just using a piece of a song comes under fair use so i don't think that youtube will hassle you.  while having links is good i have to wonder how many people will bother to use them. i like the idea but it needs work to be viable. here's the rig for a guy i've never heard of  with nothing to go by in the video seems like it may fail in the long run. i mean do i have a reason to click on the video to begin with. good luck i like the idea
Quote by madgreek667
FWIW Joyo is indeed one well known Chinese brand of guitar effects pedals that is regarded well enough that their products are licensed by Thomann in Germany and re-branded there with Thomann's Harley Benton brand. Elsewhere some Joyo pedals are branded under the names Legacy, Boston Engineering, and Ammoon, of which I have the HM-100 Heavy Metal distortion pedal, basically a Boss Metal Zone copy but rawer sounding, i.e. shades of Boss HM-2 / HM-3. It is built like an absolute tank, has served me well and of similar quality to the Boss pedals.  https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/guitar_effects/boston_engineering/hm-100_heavy_metal/46001/

A lesser known Chinese brand getting recognised for its quality is Xin Sound. Other guitar forums say that Xin Sound analog delay pedals are especially well regarded and good for their price, and actually use parts of the same quality as those used in Analog Man pedals and other high priced guitar effects pedal brands. Xin Sound's Tube Screamer pedal is also said to be of similar quality. I own a Xin Sound MT-80 metal distortion pedal which is based on the Boss HM-2 (but not a clone) and does a very good job of re-creating similar tones. Also available as the variant MT-18:  http://www.xinsound.com/Pros.aspx?classId=52

The above site is still under some construction, but Xin Sound sell through AliExpress & similar sites that sell Chinese products. LATEST - Xin Sound are now on Amazon.

interesting i'll have to look into those further
Quote by djmarcelca
This is the kind of thread newbies should be watching to see what actual guitarists on their level are using.

if it was for newbies then you'd have to feature a Squier starter pack which probably wouldn't interest anyone  .  perhaps you meant a more realistic setup for a bar band vs rock star gear.  

i liked this but have a thought or two on how to make it better. i would have liked a decent clip of the band playing live to start the video and then an intro to the guitar player. with rock star rundowns we know what he sounds like etc which is why rundowns like that are popular. we want to sound like that guy. i'd also like some demos of how they use the gear to fit in their band sound. overall a good idea. oh and now i can sit home rather than go out to say  "eh my gear is better than that guys"  
Quote by CorduroyEW
The fretboard material is subjective.  Maple does feel different than rosewood whether you are bending or not.  One isn't better than the other.

In terms of where the guitar was made I suggest you avoid the mexican strats.  They have significantly lower quality control and cheaper electronics than the American ones.  I actually prefer the classic vibe squires to Mexican fenders.

this is fairly incorrect. the electronics used are the same. pickups differ but otherwise the same.  as for QC again this is fairly inaccurate as the MIMs have decent QC. the most recent model is as mentioned basically the same as an American Standard. 2 point trem , 22 frets and alnico pickups. already tried a few and not one had any issues. they all played well and sounded like a strat should. 
Quote by ryanjones215
monwobobbo thanks for the reply, but yeah more or less what I was thinking.  The rhythm guitar player  is much more a pedal guy then I am and I guess I just get jealous sometimes lol.  I do a lot of recording on my own some I'm sure I'll make some use of it.

why be jealous buy some pedals.  you play lead and don't have a delay or a wah? 
maybe some early 60s surf stuff but i can't really think of any off the top of my head. the effect doesn't really lend itself to lead playing.   you must play some rhythm in your band so perhaps you could use it then. 
chinese  and fake in the same sentence who would have thought that would happen.  chinese copies are cheaper because they use cheaper components and of course have far cheaper labor, no advertising fees and no R&D costs to cover. in many cases they do work fairly well (and some don't). would i rely on them for my big world tour.....no.  as  cheap alternatives that could be left at practice or taken to that seedy bar for a gig sure.  i have an Eno Music OD-9 tubescreamer copy and honestly it sounds really good. it's a mini so fits in a guitar case no problem and  if something happens to it oh well, i'll get over it. 
US models are custom shop made and really can't be compared to the Asian models.  few ever get a chance to play the 70s - early 80s original BC Rich's or a newer US made model.  they are vastly better but also you are talking $4000+ so not a fair comparison. 

Korean made neck thru BC Rich's tended to be pretty good. some were even excellent.  there were some Czech made ones in the early 2000s that were high quality (though rare these days) as well.  i play a 2006 NJ series Eagle (only made that year) which i'm very fond of. it plays great and sounds good. 
although i'm a BC Rich fan and player it really depends on what Mockingbird you have. the bolt on neck ones are generally not very good.  as mentioned they are very different playing wise to a V.  either would work for what you play so it really comes down to comfort
Quote by dirkv2234
BadmotorfingersI understand it but I want to keep my guitars and right now I can’t just buy some Mesa Boogie Mark IV or anything. I f*cking know my amp sucks, but isn’t there any way that I can get at least a bit of a decent tone. Come on.

I can’t just buy a new amp. At least not now. If you would have read my post you would have understand WHY I only now know my amp sucks balls

ok i'll try to be a little less harsh. what you want can't be done with what you have.  tone chasing is a bit of a fools errand as what you hear is often the result of  high end gear along with some studio magic.  even live their is more going on than just the guitar and amps.  duplicating the sound you want even with good gear would be a task and likely end in some frustration. with what you have it just isn't going to happen.  many newer players figure they can just slap a pedal in front of any old amp and instantly get the tones they want. while pedal companies may want you to believe that it just doesn't work that way. 

sadly the amp is often overlooked especially by beginners. the amp is the heart of your sound and can make up for a less than great guitar or cheaper pedals if it's a good one. the opposite isn't true.  suck it up and start saving for a better amp. 
Realistic expectations are what is needed. For home use get yourself a peavey vip series amp (Not the cheapest one) and do the best you can.. no this won't make you sound just like Metallica but it will get you closer. Then save for a much better rig. Metallica has thousands of dollars invested you ain't getting that dirt cheap. Sorry
well knowing what your idea of those tones is would help. how bout some players / bands you wish to sound like.  
so let me get this straight you play at a "pro" level but never actually say you are a "pro" so that means nothing.  you then tell us about all the gear you have and have had but then go on to tell us we're dumb for not all worshiping at the VK altar  .  yes the 50 watt combo as well as most other VK models have been discontinued but not likely for the reason you think. pretty sure since it was a huge seller for Peavey that they are just going to come up with a new model to take it's place possibly next year. 

not piling on but have to question your post. i use a VK for blues rock and 70s metal type sounds (along with an OD) and for those it works pretty well.  it's not a high gain amp by any stretch and has a rather pedestrian tone overall. in other words it works and can do the job but you'll never hear about it being a tone monster. a Mesa it's not even on its best day. the other thing is where have you been all this time. there have been countless threads about the VK since it came out with both pros and cons. it isn't a secret by any stretch.  
learn more about how the amp you have works. if you have only been playing since xmas  no shock you aren't getting the sounds you want. your amp isn't ideal for that  as it's a low end practice amp. having said that it can still work for you as long as you are realistic about it.  on the distortion (drive, whatever they call it on that amp)  channel spend some time working the gain until you get the sound you want (or at least kinda as that is about as good as you can do). there is a difference between the gain knob and the volume knob. gain adds distortion and of course gain is about how loud the amp gets. find a balance between the 2 and you should be good. it won't sound like the record but should be close enough for your purposes. yes a good tube amp would make it easier but that costs. keep in mind that those bands used far better gear than you have. 

looked up amp select british on voice knob
good luck trying to get Guitar Center to lower a price. they will price match but beyond that not likely to go lower. those days are pretty much gone. you have a slightly better chance in store than online. 
picks of the back of the neck and body would help. 22 frets and 2 point trem suggest it's a US Standard but can't be sure as it could be a Squier standard with a fender sticker on it. 
well it looks legit except the neck designation is for the Heavy  Metal  (HM) . guessing that that is what it is.  the contemporary in the other link has a C at the beginning fo the serial number yours has an F.  nice guitar though. 
i'd use an overdrive along with your amp. turn down the gain and boost it a bit with an overdrive. it helps tighten up the sound  and gives you some crunch without overdoing the gain.