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sweet! post some pics for us
+1 to the 6505 1x12 combo, hard to go wrong there.
Also could go for the Peavy 6505 mini head and get a cab of your choosing.
What model Ibanez? I'm going to go ahead and say that the ReverbMate is not going to do the metal sounds you want dude.
It's hard to say exactly where to draw the line when it comes to pricey guitars. I've found that my golden range is <$1200, used. At that price point I can purchase most any guitar I'd want and it will be top knotch in terms of playibility and sounds. I may not always have the prettiest and most glamorous finish, but that's not all that important.
I would definitely recommend looking all up and down the range of prices. Ibanez is one of those companies that doesn't just offer guitars by degrees, as I like to call it. In different price ranges there are guitars that you can't get in other price ranges, at least off the shelf.
I've actually been MOST tempted by the newer Premium line, because of some of the wild finishes and preferable options. The fact that they are cheaper than Prestige guitars is just a bonus.
The Premiums are pretty decent guitars, same with the Iron Labels but neither are going to have the same level of fit & finish that a Prestige does. I'm actually thinking about picking up one of the iron label RGDs this fall.
Perfect rigs exist for some, but not many. And some are cheap...most aren't, though.
Hell- I'm starting to think about getting a splitter to run a clean amp and distorted amp simultaneously...
I think there's a point being missed in all this "you can get AMAZING gear with that budget" conversation.
Amazing gear is gear that does what you want it to amazingly well. It has NOTHING to do with the price.
Yes, you can purchase more expensive amplifiers, but for what you've stated is your preference and at this point in your learning curve, not a one of them would be a 'better' purchase than the inexpensive combo you're looking at. It will be "amazing" gear because it will do what you've asked. At some point your tastes MAY change and you would then need to look at something else, but for now it's unnecessary and counterproductive.
It's merely a bonus that it's inexpensive, not a driving factor.
As to guitars, dspellman is right, a variax guitar WILL be more versatile, I don't think there's any question there. Will it help you learn faster and play better? Nope. That doesn't mean you shouldn't get one (although it's my opinion that one of the mistakes new players often make is wanting "everything", which ends up with them in the weeds playing with settings rather than learning to play the guitar) but only if it's what appeals to YOU, not because of some nebulous feature that you might want at some unspecified time in the future.
And a good guitar is a good guitar. Just because there are others that are also good doesn't diminish that.
In the end, the only person that's got to be happy with your purchase is you.
Steve, to answer your earlier question regarding the Ibanez you posted (I believe it was a Premium model, as opposed to a Prestige) from what I understand those are also pretty awesome guitars. They are made in Indonesia instead of Japan, so there is an argument to be made that build quality might not be quite as good, but I haven't played them personally and won't comment on those specific guitars in that regard.
Ibanez generally are high quality for any price range. It definitely gets better as you go up in cost, but even their low-end tends to be solid. If I liked the necks I'd have a bunch, but I don't really dig the super-flat profile.
i do have to agree on the fact that you have the budget for something awesome, and IMO you could do much better than a 6505+ combo.
i love all four of my ibby prestiges, but i paid from $380 - $600 on used models, if i had two grand to drop on a guitar i would be looking along the lines of suhr, etc.
as far as the amp goes, that is where i think you can do better IF YOU WANT TO. i have a 5150 blockletter and i love it, it is great for one thing (as it has been said that it is a one trick pony).
i personally would never own JUST a 5150 or 6505+ its too limited for my tastes anyway. if you want the 6505+ combo, that is fine, but i would go a different route or planning on getting something else in the near future.
Solid looking guitars. Fairly new I think, don't know if a ton of people have them, but I'd expect a great guitar barring any exceptions.
Yep, other than the bridge and no string tension bar behind the but on the 2550, it's just cosmetic differences. The 2550 has a fancier paint job and different fret board inlays.
The original Edge trem was one of the best licensed floyd rose bridges on the market. I still prefer the low profile (lo-pro and edge pro) versions, but that's just me :P My rg3570z has the edge zero with the zps and I don't find that it has the same feel as the guitars with the lo-pro and edge pro. Guess I could disable the ZPS unit and see if it's more similar. Both are, or can be in the edge zero's case, fully floating.
And if Efkay is still the distributor in Canada for Ibanez, anything not in stock will take quite a while to get it. Or at least that's been my experience over the years.
The store that I will probably be dealing with doesn't carry Peavey. I was looking at the amp idea and from what people are saying, the Marshall MG desain series have some pretty wide quality issues, so I think I'd avoid that. I do have a bit of trouble understanding what I need in an amp and I think testing them out is wise.
That's a win!
In my opinion once you get beyond a given price point, most guitars are competent for most things and the primary determinant of whether it's the "right" one is how it feels to you. (Pickups are also important, but less so than 'feel' IMO.)
But there WILL be a noticeable difference between that strat and your Prestige (assuming you get it.)
Ibanez necks are generally pretty thin, which some love and others hate. I tend toward a thicker neck, but have never found reason to complain about how an Ibby Prestige feels and plays. Of the ~20 guitars I've got only a few are worth north of $1000, and there's not a one of them I'd be embarrassed to be on stage with so once you get more established and comfortable in your playing don't be afraid to check a LOT of different things out.
Once you get the Squier and your amp, go to Justinguitar.com and start following his lessons. He's a great teacher and you can at the least nail the basics from there.
I don't think I'd go as far as calling it a 1 trick pony. You can do modern voiced rock & hard rock. Gotta remember who was in on the design of the amp and he used it for years! The one big downfall is the lack of a great clean channel. When I had my 212 combo (and my current 5150 III), I honestly couldn't give a damn about the clean channel. 95% of the time, I'm doing metal rhythm or lead. Then again the III actually does have a pretty good clean channel, I just never use it But there are ways to help with cleans, different preamp tubes, chorus pedal etc
The main reason why a lot of people recommend the 6505 for metal is well... it's relatively cheap and tons of recording/touring metal bands use them. There's a reason for that! It's one of the main 2 or 3 sounds of modern metal :P And similarly, Ibanez Prestiges, specially used, are amazing guitars for the money. Neither are for everyone, that's why you go try everything under the sun and find what suits you best.
And you will notice a huge difference in the feel between a Squier and that RG2550 Prestige. Ibanez necks are thin, wide, flat and with very little finish. Which is what I like. That explains why I own 6 prestiges (plus 1 older MiJ made before they were called Prestige). It's kind of sad to see the Prestige line move away from the great bang for the buck price range here in Canada. Glad I got my Ibanez guitars used when the CAD was strong. Gotta love picking up mint rg1570 and rg2570 under $550 each!
Too bad you weren't in Edmonton now,
As long as it isn't one of the really cheap Squiers it is probably a good thing. My main gigging guitar is a Squier Custom Tele. I replaced the pickups, tuners and bridge and the thing now rocks.
I almost never recommend the stuff I expect everyone else will, even if it is perfect. I'll give it a "+1", but I won't suggest it myself unless there is an inexplicable lack of said suggestion. Instead, I tend to recommend lesser known stuff that my also be perfect. Or at least, good enough.
Spellman, You make a good point, but to be fair when a tool works...
I prefer playing metal with decidedly un-metal guitars in un-metal finishes, through an amp that is definitely a popular choice for metal, but not as popular as a 6505. I use weird pedals like the EHX B9 because fuck-yeah electric organs sound cool as hell over metal riffs. I'm sure there are others like me on the forum, but when someone wants a quick and simple solution for getting metal sounds (as so often is the case here) then we are almost obligated to recommend the tried-and-true because it works. If I recommended what I use, they would probably be pretty disappointed when they went to play the stuff and it wasn't "insta-heavy."
there is nothing wrong with a one trick pony if it does the trick you want.
There's lots of "metal" brands/guitars out there. Besides Ibanez guitars, Gibson/Epiphone, ESP/LTD, Dean, Fernandes, BC Rich, Schecter, Oktober, DBZ, Electra, Minarik and others can be found in the hands of metal gods.
Beyond that, many makers have guitars perfectly SUITED for metal, but that may defy the genre's aesthetic norms or just aren't that well known, like Reverend, Carvin, Godin.
And that's not even getting into the small makers, luthiers, and lesser-known brands that likewise put out killer stuff for metal guitarists: Bowes, Caparison, Ran, Skeversen, and..well...Killer.
You came here with $3500 to spend on some amazing gear.
Here at "Ultimate Guitar" the ultimate guitar (by consensus) is an Ibanez brand and the amp a 6505 combo.
Most of the guitars will be black.
Welcome to the herd. Change directions when the asshole in front of you does or the wolf might get you. That is all.
Good point. Here in LA, 4x12s (used) are going for $150-200. New cabinets are going for $800-1200 not because of their construction or the speakers inside them, but for the brand names screwed onto the fronts. I've tossed up three and four photos of the interiors of 4x12s at a time here and challenged folks to guess which are expensive, which inexpensive. Guitarists tend to listen with their eyes. Put an expensive cabinet brand next to an inexpensive cabinet brand, play both, and they will suddenly hear singing mids, tighter bottom and widely dispersed highs out of one and harshness, flubbiness and fizziness out of another. Guess which. Cover them up, hide the brands and characteristic colors, frames (designed to make the cabinets look "heavier duty" ala Orange), distinctive grill cloth patterns, and suddenly things become a lot more democratic.
*These* forum members seem to like the 6505. Lots and lots of beginner metal players here who sit in their bedrooms. Go over to MLP and Phaez was the big amp choice for a long while. Lots and lots of older classic rock players on that one. And so on. I listened to a 6505 in person and decided it was a one-trick pony, and that if I ever wanted to get that particular sound, it was a choice. I never buy something expensive based on reviews, demo videos and articles. Under $100, maybe. Mostly I'll buy based on my chasing down the thing itself at NAMM (local to me), the LA Amp Show (local to me), one of the tens of guitar shows in the area or one of the several dozen guitar shops in the SoCal area. Lucky me.
Trust guys like Arby, Cathbard and a few others- whose names escape me but I'm sure some will post- for knowing who does quality electronics work. Some of them are just very experienced technicians, some are veteran DIYers, and some have actual training and job experience. They're the ones who opened my eyes.
Well a lot of us here are older and can understand how other people would have different ideas than our own. And we're also a bunch of enablers for GAS lol
On the tech side, just like an Apple, BMW or Mini logos add to the cost of anything. Badges cost Not to say there's anything wrong with buying a Mesa/ENGL/Orange 4x12 cab. They are built overkill for road use. They also will use 'higher end' (more badge) speakers, so they have high price tags. For home use, are they going to sound twice as good as an Avatar or Traynor cab? Stock speaker(s) in the 6505 combos don't sound as good as a Vintage 30 and that's often something that's suggested as an upgrade.
As for a cab down the road, you can always disconnect the combo's internal speaker and use an external cab. And the usual, "NEVER run a tube amp without speakers attached" has to be given
Apparently the choice you have to make is between one big purchase or a whole steaming pile of little ones.
I managed to rein things in on the keyboard front, thanks to Korg stuffing everything remotely imaginable into my current pair.
Electronics are catching up on the guitar end of things, but for a while it seemed as if death or a dumptruck were all that was going to save me from stringed instrument-induced homelessness.