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I'd suggest a little ear training first - www.good-ear.com/
Start off with simple intervals & work your way up! When you feel you've got a good grasp on intervals, start off learning simple licks by ear. One of the first things I learned by ear was Jimi Hendrix's "Highway Child", just 3 notes! Once you figure out the key of the song it's pretty easy to figure out what chords/notes they're using. A decent knowledge of theory & scales will get you where you want a lot faster too.

Also start off with jingles on Tv/Radio, they can be very fun & easy to learn
You'll get a lot of it wrong at first - but with a little patience & trial and error, you'll be suprised how quickly you develop your ear!
There's only 1 major scale, & the same pattern is moved up & down the fretboard for different keys. The 1st note tells you what key you're in. I'm guessing you know about keys so I'd suggest finding a back-up track online & jamming along to it. You'd be suprised how a few chords bring out notes as opposed to just playing single notes by themselves. When I first learned scales, I also was in the same position as you. Everything I did just sounded like a scale & not music! Keep practicing & you'll get there
So you're saying the sound guy sabotaged everyone elses sets so his band sounded better? I don't see why anyone would do that, music isn't a competition! Either that guys an ass or you're just making excuses for your band's sub-par perfomance. Don't let one bad experience knock your confidence though, just go to another club that has open mic night, & If you find you sound just as bad as you did in the first club, then the problem probably isn't with the engineering I'm afraid...
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Why is this in Guitar Techniques instead of Bands and Artists?


Sorry mate, I thought because this thread is mainly about his technique & playing style I posted it here... would the mods be so kind as to move it to the right forum?
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thnks, it's on the cover of the Strictly Commercial compilation album > at first I just thought it was a drawing or something: turns out it's one of those photography lights with a parasol reflecting in his sunglasses


I was wondering what was up with the glasses! I don't have that album because I'm relativley new to the world of Zappa & only have 7 of his albums so far... but with there being around 80 that I'm missing he'll be keeping me busy for a while!
Oh I see now, so you'd just move all the chords, scales etc. up 3 frets? Thanks guys
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you know Justin King? Reminds me of him a LOT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xon04MB1rDw


very cool looks painful though! Love the avatar btw never seen that pic of Zappa before
My bad, I don't know very much about tunings! Just the standard & drop tunings. May I ask why he would use this tuning? After spending a long time learning the scales, chords & notes of the fretboard in standard tuning I'd find it a nightmare to have to learn it all again from scratch with a new one D:
Yeah he is male lol
In japan there is a music genra called "Visual Kei" in which the band members cross-dress... very strange but then again rock musicians looking like girls isn't anything new really!
Hello all, I have here a video from a wonderfully unique japanese guitarist who goes by the name of Miyavi. I've been a fan of his for quite some time & he's praised as one of the top players in Japan, but is barely known as a guitarist anywhere else because most of his fans worldwide are teenage girls who obsess over his looks! That's what you get for being part of the Japanese Visuel Kei scene I guess...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEH7cphEODk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIGbb5yqklA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtdXVqY0Wto

He's like Newton Faulkner on speed right?! He's essentially a blues guitarist who uses the slap bass technique & also likes his natural harmonics. Anyway I thought I'd post this video to give people an alternative way to play, so if you've been bored of your usual guitar style recently you could try his style of playing for a fresh challenge.

There are loads of tabs for his songs online if you wanna give them a go, although he has a strange tuning which is - C#,F#,B,E,G#,C#
I guess it's an ego/confidence thing. You may not get as much attention on stage as the lead guitarist, but there's also a lot less pressure on you to perform. Rhythm is equally important as lead though, because if the rhythm is off then there's no hope for any lead instrument or vocals!
I wouldn't worry too much about it. An audience would rather you look at your fretboard without making any mistakes than looking at them & ****ing up every chord change. I'd suggest you try playing without looking & see how you do, you might find that you don't even need to look most of the time! There will probably certain parts that you mess up more on than others, in which case the only answer is - practice practice practice! Just keep playing your songs & you'll get there eventually
Well as long as people aren't dropping dead or running out of the room screaming when you play then it's all good. In my opinion being a good guitarist is much more about your attitude than it is about your actual skill level. If you respect other guitarists no matter what their ability & are willing to explore different kinds of music than you're used to then you're a good guitarist in my book
Well i've been putting in at least 2 hours for 6 months with various things that need working on.

Guitar:
15 min warm-up
15 min bending in tune
15min chord revision
30min playing scales & chords in the "key of the day"
20 min note location

Then I'd do about an hour of theory which mostly consists of memorizing chords & ear training & an hour or so of piano.
Now I feel I'm at the right level to start writing songs, so all I've been doing is figuring out how to play songs by ear & picking songs apart & seeing what makes them tick. I think you should practice what you need working on the most instead of repeating things you could do in your sleep. & I also think it's important to take breaks every half hour because you get distracte- oo0o0o a squirrel
It's all about 9th chords, dominant 7th chords, 16th notes & grooving with one chord. It's also common to only play the top 2 or 3 notes of a chord. The guitar is a rhythm instrument in funk, so it can sound very bland without a grooving bass line or sharp sax leads! To me, Prince is the master of funk so check some of his stuff out.
I think most people want to hear music that's predictable, when it comes to the charts & pop music, traditional is top! Most people just want to groove along with it & not get too many suprises with dissonent notes & chords. Personally I love pop songs that follow a predictable formula but I also love the more experimental side of music that is more like a journey

There are loads of bands that mix the two though, the Beatles' songs where always quite predictable & traditional but would often have unexpected changes that would throw you off!
It's cool, every chord progression has been done many times, that's why they can't be copyrighted! Have you tried transposing it into a different key?
I say it depends how good your rhythm is. If you have absolutley terrible rhythm & can't keep in time with anything then it will come in very handy. I have always had a good natural rhythm & never go out of time when playing something. I baught a metronome & used it for a while, but in the end it didn't help me, I just found the clicking distracting!
Start off simple. Like figuring out the tune to a jingle on a TV advert, then work your way up. I started with jingles a month ago, songs 2 weeks ago & today I figured out how to play most of "Peaches en Regalia" by Frank Zappa by ear in just half an hour! I was very suprised by the amount of progress I made in such a short time with very little effort!
Hello all, I have been playing guitar for just over a year now & I'm thinking about upgrading. I have a "Squier Strat" that was very cheap & is a nightmare to play in comparison to most other guitars I have tried out recently.

My budget is £400, maybe £450 if it's really good. That's around $500 I think?

I play all kinds of music but the songs I will be playing in gigs will mostly be rock, funk & blues with a couple of Newton Faulner-esque accoustic songs & a tiny bit of flamenco style. It will be used for both rhythm & lead. So I'm in a quite a predicament finding a guitar that translates well in different genras & is equally good at funky rhythma & rock soloing.

I recently tried out Ibanez AF75 TDG Semi-acoustic from the artcore series that was £400. It played really well & was also lightweight which is a bonus because I'll have to be lugging it around for gigs. It seems to be good for funk & accoustic, but I'm not too sure it would be good for rock, as I like a bit of distortion. I'm after a Brian May kind of tone in regards to distortion, but I really liked this guitar & hopefully with the right effect pedal I could get it? I know this is irrelivent but it looks damn sexy too!

Would you say this guitar would be right for me? I've looked up a lot of reviews on it & it seems very good for the price, but I would appreciate any other suggestions anyone can give me before I buy it

Thanks for your time!
I think you should give it a go. A cool idea you could try is have all the guys in the band do backup vocals, chanting, shouting etc. to give it that testosterone punch
Barre chords are a bitch! To add to God's Gifts hints - make sure your thumb is always opposite your finger. So if you took the guitar away they would meet. Otherwise you get hurrendous fretbuzz. Also play around with the basic shape, you'd be suprised how much more interesting a chord progression can become simply by changing one note of the barre chord. Look up different shapes online when you master the basic shape. I love the Sus4 & Sus7 barre chords returning to the original shape, very handy way to spice up a progression.
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I think you're pigeonholing electric guitar players though. It's been said a few times, there's arrogant, conceited assholes in all walks of life. Not just electric guitarists, not just musicians. Some people are that way and they're not even good at anything!

It's too bad this stereo type exist in so many people, and someone said it's usually deserved, well no it's not. Stereotypes are bad, period, and if you give in to yours, you're usually just robbing yourself.

You, of all people should be a little more sensitive to stereotyping, shouldn't you?


Well yes I am, to an extent. Although this is based on personal experiences, I'm not fabricating or exagerating my opinions, I just tell it how I see it. Of course there are arrogant & ignorant people in all walks of life, but they seem to be very promninant in the guitar world. The majority of guitarists I know personally & have witnessed on YouTube see it as a competition & take it extemley seriously. So seriously, in fact, where it seems they don't even enjoy it! Even going as far as saying people like the Jonas Brothers or Green Day who are not technically advanced players deserve to die! It's simply sprouted by jealousy that they aren't famous despite being much better players than certain celebrities. Which is fair enough, because fakes are becoming millionares while real talent sleeps in the gutter, but to wish death upon them is just crazy!

I know quite a few friendly & open minded players though, but they pail in comparrison to the speed obsessed metal heads!
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Notice how the OP hasn't returned to this thread. He's trolling. Don't take the bait.

CT


Please! I hate trolls.
I actually don't come here very often & forgot I even made this thread.
Looking back, I was very much over reacting, & I apologize. Someone made a good point about how they're going to the guitar shop to try out the guitar, which is fair enough. But you should see these guys who go there simply to show off - apparently every day! & Have the audacity to dismiss me as a guitarist!

I'm no Vai or SRV, but I'm actually a pretty decent player. I've had some very skilled players tell me I'm a "natural guitarist" & it grinds my gears having such ignorant people judge me as a guitarist simply because of my clothing choices. Especially when if I asked them what notes are in a C# chord or an A Phrygian scale, they'd think I was talking another language! I didn't make this thread because my ego's bruised, because it isn't. I'm just saying how electric guitarists are so disrespectful to other musicians & are so quick to judge. Go on any YouTube video with an electric guitar in it & you'll see them going at each other like crazy! It's supposed to be fun & they take it so seriously it's just ridiculous.

(& yes I really am gay)
I think a true diverse music taste is simply love for most kinds of music. For example, you can like various types of metal, but it's still pretty much the same thing. But if your I-pod has everything from Guns n Roses to Lady Gaga to Andre 3000 to Beethoven to Dolly Parton, you know you have a diverse taste!
Does anyone else feel that a lot of people give guitar players a bad name? I'm talking about the kind of people who treat playing the guitar as a competition. For most players it seems like one big ego fest! You go into a guitar shop & unless you can play 1000 notes a second you aren't worthy of their presence. & if you don't like metal then you aren't a "true guitar player"...

My personal opinion is that a musician should communicate to the listener, that is the goal. To transfer emotion into sounds is what most people are after when they listen to music. Electric Guitarists seem so hellbent on playing as fast as they can, they often forget that less is more!

I think one emotional note is worth more than 1000 notes, & playing fast is good every now & then - but when a solo is a mish mash of notes without any breaks it's gets very boring very quickly! To me, a solo should be similar in form to coversation, you need breaks & to emphasize certain notes to get drive your point accross. When someone speaks 10 words a second without stopping you can't understand what they're trying to say & it quickly becomes a blur of noise that has no substance...

You never see this with any other kind of musicians. Why is the world of Guitar such a big intimidating ego fest? As a gay guitarist who thinks less is more, you can imagine how I get treated by the local metal heads in the guitar shop!
http://www.jazzguitar.be/exotic_guitar_scales.html

The Byzantine, Japanese & Harmonic Minor scales are my favourite arabic sounding scales.
Use the phrygian mode if you want to go for a spanish/flamenco style!
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"I gotta feeling" is a good song.


I agree. Although I don't particulary like the song very much at all it's still a good song. Its a mood lifter & gets people in the party spirit which means it's a good song. A good song to me is one that connects real emotions to people & this song does that. The lyric - "I got a feeling, that tonights gonna be a good night" can apply to everyone from all ages and backgrounds, & that makes it a good song.
"Rock" in the sense of shocking people with outrageous guitar playing died before the end of the 60's. "Rock" in the sense of distorted guitar based energetic songs will never die.
Try checking out the "finger gym" at www.justinguitar.com
It helped me with pull-offs quite a bit
I found "The Guitar Handbook" by Ralph Denyer to be very useful, it explains music theory in an easy way. It took me a while & for a time I thought I wasn't going to get it at all but after a while everything just clicked!
My advice would be to record the progression & then just play your scales over it, let your ears guide you to where you want to go. You'd be suprised how much better the simplest riff sounds when played over a chord!
Have you tried writing the song in your head? Just close your eyes & play the riff in your head as if it wasn't your song, what would you, as a listener, expect the following riff to sound like? Is the riff the end of a verse? the bridge? the chorus? You could also try picking a key & a song structure beforehand so you know what you're going for right from the get go. Another technique is if you draw a musical landscape on paper. Most songs would look like a mountain, starts off with a slow verse, gradually gets higher up until the peak of the song which is the chorus, then gives the ear a rest etc. Another helpful thing would be to pick apart your favourite songs & see what makes them tick, what is it about them you find so appealing? How do they connect each section of the song? I have only written 2 songs, but I find it's best to break out of the "scales and chords" way of thinking & compose something in your head & THEN work it out on the guitar. Or just simply take a break, recharge your inspiration batteries hope any of this helps you