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Quote by beadhangingOne

That's just it though, people say the same thing about Avatar (oh it looks great on IMAX) but don't you feel like that's just masking the fact that it's actually a really bad movie? I do anyway. I mean half those spinning in space shots in Gravity just made me nauseated. So in a sense, even the visuals failed!

Because Avatar is just pretty, but it has no substance.

In Gravity, the expression of the terrifying silence and hopelessness of space is well realized just through the atmosphere created by the sound and visuals. This is in spite of the poor story and acting. In fact, I would have preferred Gravity more if its narrative leaned slightly towards the abstract and didn't really try to tell a story. If it was just a film that let the atmosphere it created wash over the viewer, I think it would have been a genuinely more affecting experience.

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5 years ago

Quote by beadhangingOne

Yeah I just saw it on a tv in my house so I don't really care about the visuals. Otherwise, it failed at everything a movie is supposed to do.

They couldn't get me to care about Sandra Bullock's character, George Clooney just had stock Clooney suave guy lines, and yeah it really had nothing going for it. Probably the most pathetic part was where they had to shoehorn in the fact that she has a dead daughter in an attempt to get you to sympathize with her. ****ing amateurish.

Much like every other film that is nothing but a polished turd, it looks nice, but beyond that, it's shit. Very similar to 'Avatar'.

"Everything a movie is supposed to do" doesn't just include story and characters. If it did, then there would be no need for people to hone their skills is such things as cinematography, production design, editing and stuff like that.

A movie is also supposed to communicate in terms of sound and visuals. In a film like Gravity, the visuals and sound are the point.

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5 years ago

yeah but why?

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5 years ago

what's so laughable about a wonderful technical achievement?

The story is poor, yet serviceable, as well as the acting. But the visuals and audio of the film are superb, and particularly breathtaking if viewed in 3D in an IMAX theater (and this is coming from someone who is not a fan of 3D).

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5 years ago

oh, that's a different one. I was thinking of the supposed El Topo sequel

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5 years ago

yup this year iirc. Forgot the title tho.

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5 years ago

wow this is coming out next week:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodorowsky's_Dune

In 1973, film producer Arthur P. Jacobs optioned the film rights to Dune but died before a film could be developed. The option was then taken over two years later by director Alejandro Jodorowsky, who proceeded to approach, among others, Peter Gabriel, the prog rock groups Pink Floyd and Magma for some of the music, artists H. R. Giger and Jean Giraud for set and character design, Dan O'Bannon for special effects, and Salvador Dalí, Orson Welles, Gloria Swanson, David Carradine and others for the cast.

Frank Herbert traveled to Europe in 1976 to find that $2 million of the $9.5 million budget had already been spent in pre-production, and that Jodorowsky's script would result in a 14-hour movie ("It was the size of a phonebook", Herbert later recalled). Jodorowsky took creative liberties with the source material, but Herbert said that he and Jodorowsky had an amicable relationship. The project ultimately stalled for financial reasons.

14-hour Dune adaptation by Jodorowsky with music by Pink Floyd, sets by H. R. Giger and starring Salvador Dalí, Orson Welles & Gloria Swanson???

/thread

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5 years ago

I've finished watching five (5) Paul W.S. Anderson films and I've come to the conclusion that he's not nearly as bad as his reputation suggests. That was actually a fun and entertaining marathon for the most part.

Here's a part of a review for Death Race that I've drafted where I note some positive points about Anderson:

Yet, for all of Death Race‘s shortcomings, Paul W.S. Anderson is not at all a bad director. Unlike Michael Bay, who always has everything turned up to 11, Anderson still has a setting that goes down a few notches. The pacing in this film is not perfect, but it’s not a mind-numbing attack on all the senses either. The best thing about it is that even though Anderson is a terrible writer who never goes beyond an elementary treatment of his screenplay, he knows how to put together a visually cohesive film.

Everything about the look of Death Race – from the sets to the props and the costumes – all serve to enhance the film’s dark, cold, steely and worn-out industrial aesthetic. Even the muted colour tones (contrast this to the vibrant palette in his 2011 film Three Musketeers) also conform to the film’s overall atmosphere. He knows how to work the camera and there are a lot of visually engaging shots that play with light and shadow and silhouettes. Anderson also shows the capability to come up with interesting camera angles and well-framed images; but most intriguingly, his fast-paced editing, quick cuts and shaky camera work play out like a poor man’s Paul Greengrass. It’s a more indulgent technique that results in a superficial grittiness compared to the raw and visceral work of Greengrass, but nonetheless works excellently for Anderson’s style.

Death Race is not nearly as bad as the reputation of its director suggests. In fact, I enjoyed it, was entertained and am now looking for a potential marathon topic where I could squeeze in the original it was based on. The film is cheesy, campy and comes from the same school of filmmaking as Michael Bay, but unlike Bay, Anderson shows skill and restraint. This film is still best experienced if you leave your brain at the door, but if for some reason you want to bring it in, rest assured the experience will not leave you feeling like your brain was mashed and eviscerated once you step out.

So yeah... the PWSA marathon was a good idea.

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5 years ago

Whoever said Mullholland Dr. is the best of the century is on the right track, yeah.

Also, kudos to those that mentioned There Will Be Blood, No Country for Old Men & Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

I should add though: Cidade de Deus (City of God) & Memento

Most importantly, you guys are forgetting one of the greatest animated films: Spirited Away is way up there as well.

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5 years ago

I'm two films into a Paul W.S. Anderson marathon and things are not nearly as bad as I expected.

Event Horizon is poor, but not bad. Even has its moments at times.

Soldier has laughably cheesy and campy moments, but surprisingly has a lot to say. It says it with the finesse of a monster truck in a demolition derby, but gets the message across nonetheless. Kurt Russell has like what, 100 words in this I think, but his internalized performance is actually effective. He has his bad scenes and a few terrible ones, but most of those fall under the stereotypical so-bad-it's-good performance that it works. I can see myself rating this well.

The other three films I have lined up are: AVP: Alien vs. Predator, Death Race & The Three Musketeers

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5 years ago

Guys watch this:

Legitimately one of the best satires/comedies I've seen.

If that satisfies you, move on to other Ernst Lubitsch films, continuing with this:

Which is, like, what You've Got Mail would be if it was actually good and not overlong.

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5 years ago

Quote by Dreadnought

That's a weird way of wording that sentence

I literally have no idea what you're referring to.

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5 years ago

Quote by Bob_Sacamano

wait a beautiful mind won an oscar

lmao

Yes, that was in a year when Mulholland Dr. and The Royal Tenenbaums came out

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5 years ago

Quote by WhiskeyFace

I think there's honour in never getting an Oscar - provided you're universally loved, that is. Think of all the great filmmakers who never won.

...and of all the great actors who've never cared of winning.

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5 years ago

Quote by valacirca

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5 years ago

lol this still cracks me up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPKXXXiOgfk

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5 years ago

Note to anyone who doesn't care about the Oscars: The last 200 or so posts of this thread have been all about the Oscars

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The Pit

5 years ago

holy shit oscars came and went without any surprises

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5 years ago

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5 years ago

Quote by ali.guitarkid7

He makes the best films about loneliness, he has no friends. Neither do we. This is as close as we get.

best post in this thread.

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5 years ago

Her!!!!!!

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5 years ago

lol what did Travolta call Idina Menzel? :p

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5 years ago

Quote by Samdroid

Not ready for the PSH part of this

+1

in memoriam so gut-wrenching.

not sure we needed bette midler.

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The Pit

5 years ago

hey guys Gravity lost an award.

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5 years ago

Quote by WCPhils

Is it really surprising Gravity is winning all of the technical awards?

No not really

tbh, with the exception of the short film awards that no one really cares for, the winners have been pretty much exactly as expected.

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5 years ago

Quote by BelowTheSun

Whatever wins Best Editing will probably win Best Picture, just saying

Not this year.

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5 years ago

Headline: Gravity wins everything.

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5 years ago

Of course Murray was going to give a shoutout to Ramis

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5 years ago

lol American Hustle can actually go 0/10 tonight.

Its only chance left is Original Screenplay

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The Pit

5 years ago

standing o for n'yongo!!!!!

*breathes sigh of relief*

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5 years ago

lol

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The Pit

5 years ago

I'm getting tired of these hero montages.

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5 years ago

Quote by ali.guitarkid7

Ellen #killingit

Ellen is already eleventyhundredthousand times better than Seth McFarlane.

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5 years ago

Quote by lolmnt

(DEAKINS NEEDS A MAKE UP WIN THOUGH YOU ACADEMY ****ERS BETTER GIVE HIM ONE SOON)

Deakins does make-up too!?!?!?

lol.

but srsly, he's gonna win for that war drama he's doing directed by Angeline Jolie which is coming out on Christmas this year.

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5 years ago

lol Pharell

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5 years ago

Oscars 2014 should win vs will win:

Best Picture
Will: 12 Years a Slave
Should: The Wolf of Wall Street

Best Director
Will: Cuaron
Should: Cuaron

Best Actress
Will: Blanchett
Should: Blanchett

Best Actor
Will: McConaughey
Should: DiCaprio

Best Supporting Actress
Will: N'yongo (I have this dreadful sinking feeling that Lawrence might snag this though)
Should: Hawkins (or N'yongo, idk, very tight category)

Best Supporting Actor
Will: Leto
Should: Leto

Best Original Screenplay
Will: Her (please no Hustle, please no Hustle, please no Hustle, please no Hustle...)
Should: Her

Best Adapted Screenplay
Will: 12 Years a Slave
Should: Before Midnight

Best Animated Feature
Will: Frozen
Should: Frozen (I haven't seen The Wind Rises or Ernest et Celestine though)

Best Foreign Language Film
Will: The Great Beauty
Should: The Hunt

Best Documentary
Will: 20 Feet From Stardom
Should: The Act of Killing (I guess... it's the only one I've seen)

Best Film Editing
Will: Gravity
Should: Captain Phillips

Best Original Score
Will: Gravity
Should: Her

Best Original Song
Will: "Let It Go"
Should: "Let It Go"

Best Cinematography
Will: Gravity
Should: Inside Llewyn Davis or Prisoners

Best Visual Effects
Will: Gravity
Should: Gravity

Best Sound Editing
Will: Gravity
Should: Gravity

Best Sound Mixing
Will: Gravity
Should: Inside Llewyn Davis

Best Production Design
Will: The Great Gatsby
Should: Her

Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Will: Dallas Buyers Club
Should: Dallas Buyers Club

Best Costume Design
Will: The Great Gatsby
Should: The Great Gatsby

I left out the short films because I haven't seen any of them.

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5 years ago

I'll do should win-will win in a while.

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5 years ago

It's okay to like the Oscars! It's okay!!!

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5 years ago

Quote by andyscoot

So, I decided now is the perfect time to actually watch some Resnais. I have Marienbad and Hiroshima, any others I should get?

Marienbad + Hiroshima + Night & Fog (short film) seem to be the essential Resnais, but I've also seen a lot of love for Providence (1977) and Mon oncle d'Amérique [My American Uncle] (1980).

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5 years ago

w00t Oscars today!

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5 years ago