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I'm so excited to hear this.. I'm totally going, even if I have to sit in the back row. In the long interview Jon said he wanted to play And You And I.. and that's all I need to hear. That song is absolutely amazing.

Agreed. A perfect interlude between the first and third tracks of that album. Very atmospheric.
I don't agree that Close To The Edge is their best album, but it's definitely my favorite of theirs.

So, it's your favorite, but you don't think it's their best? I'm not following...

Oh, and on the subject of album reviews, let's see if any of you here pick this one up:
"The musical growth rate of this band cannot even be charted. They are treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry."
Or how about this one:
"And then your album Shark Sandwich got a two word review that simply said... shit sandwich."
Any takers here? Anyone?
Quote by Minkaro
Whilst I hate to break up the topic here [/lies], is it just me who is convinced that Rime Of The Ancient Mariner is actually twice as long as they say it is?

Maybe I'm slightly mad, but it feels like it's a really long song.

'Tis long indeed, but it's so ridiculously awesome that it doesn't even matter. In my opinion, it's miles above any other song of theirs. The epicness of it is pretty much unmatched. But yeah, it's quite long. About 13 and a half minutes, isn't it? It's weighed down a bit by the slow interlude section (the "one after one by the star-dogged moon" part), but it's a well-paced and brilliant song nonetheless. But I'll stop digressing and concede the point: yes, it's a long song.
1. Aces High - about dogfights in World War II. Contains remarkably explicit dogfighting lyrical imagery. Flying nerds!
2. 2 Minutes to Midnight - about the Doomsday Clock. Anti-war nerds!
3. Losfer Words (Big 'Orra) - 'tis an instrumental, but the title says it all. Phonetic nerds!
4. Flash of the Blade - parrying, fencing, swordfighting nerds!
5. The Duellists - ditto.
6. The Village - about the old school '60s (?) TV show. TV nerds!
7. Powerslave - about the Egyptian pharaohs, and a detailed account of the bitterness they felt toward their successors. History nerds!
8. Rime of the Ancient Mariner - about the epic Samuel Taylor Coleridge poem (which kicks ass, by the way). Literature nerds!

So basically, Powerslave not only contains the most nerdiness of any Maiden album, but also the most diverse. You could say it was an important precursor to the ultra-nerdy half-concept album Seventh Son of a Seventh Son.
And THAT is why Powerslave was so innovative.

[/one of my regular old rants]
Damn it, I'm gonna have to split this post in two. Sorry about the double post, but UG for some reason dislikes large posts. In other words, UG dislikes ME.

Quote by Ardius
Personally, I don't think they've done anything especially innovative. Nothing extraordinary anyway. If I had to pick an album as innovative though, Id have to go with Brave New World, it was fairly different to many albums out at the time. AMOLAD follows on from BNW and DoD really, so it isnt especially innovative. Somewhere In Time was really just a mix of experimentation with synths and Adrian ripping it up, lol.

I mostly agree with you there. A Matter of Life and Death (damn it, I'm not an abbreviation conformist! ) sort of follows suit with the previous two albums. The only major turning points in their albums were, in my opinion, Brave New World, No Prayer for the Dying, Somewhere in Time, and Number of the Beast (and I only pick that one because Bruce brought a noticeably different element to the band). But even so, I'd personally say that Powerslave was their most innovative album, because to me it was the epitome of their trademark nerdiness. I mean, there was some nerdy stuff on the previous albums (famous historical battles, Quest for Fire, the Dune saga), but every single song on Powerslave to me shows a completey different aspect of Maiden's undying (but awesome) nerdiness.
Quote by BrainDamage
^^You call yourself a Yesfan, yet you're asking if it's worth it to buy Relayer?! Gates of Delirium and Sound Chaser are pure musical insanity. To Be Over is nice (it's a breath of fresh air after the previous two monsters), but it doesn't even compare to the other two tracks on the album. I'd go so far as to say Gates is the best song they've ever recorded.

Best song they've ever recorded? Well, I do have it saved on my other computer; perhaps I should give it another listen sometime. Thanks for the feedback; I'll definitely consider getting it, man.
And, for the record, I definitely do not call myself a Yes fan. I'm as Yes-n00bish as they come. I only own The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge. Oh, and I have 90125 on cassette. And that's it.
And yes, Close to the Edge is great, although I like Relayer more, and probably The Yes Album as well (Yours Is No Disgrace, Starship Trooper, and Perpetual Change are phenomenal).

For sure. I'd go so far as to say that Howe's guitar work is at its finest on The Yes Album. I'd kill to be able to fluently play Yours is No Disgrace. EVERY musical aspect of that song amazes the shit out of me. And Starship Trooper is so god damned epic it's not even comprehendable. I've always really loved I've Seen All Good People as well. The first half of it is completely genius; and the rockin' out second half is always cool too.

And apparently I'm more of a Yes n00b than I'd thought. I just discovered that Tales from Topograhpic Oceans came before Relayer! I'd always thought it was a later '70s album from them. How's that album, may I ask?
Speaking of Siberian Khatru, am I the only one here who thinks that Close to the Edge is their best album? It's only three tracks long, yet it's so unbelievably epic. The Yes Album comes close, and Fragile's got some great tunes too, but I just think Close to the Edge is the most well-balanced, brilliant album they've done.
Also, I've been considering getting Relayer. I've only heard Gates of Delirium off of it, and it's pretty bitchin'. Would it be worth the investment?
Quote by metalfan#3
Seth, I figured that the ending to NCFOM would be very symbolic due to the dreams, but I was kind of disappointed we weren't really given any 'resolution' as to what happened to Chigurh. He just walked away with a broken arm. That, and how my dad was yelling at the TV because he hated the ending .

Sure, sure. However, I've not read the book so I'm not sure how that is supposed to end. I guess I have no basis for comparison with this movie, therefore I'm not one to judge. Bottom line is, I loved the movie, and that's what matters most to me. After all, even if the end was disappointing to you, why let it ruin a film that was brilliant for the two hours that preceded the ending?
Quote by psychodelia
Now that I think about it, Led Zep and White Stripes would be pretty baller (imho)

Holy shit, brilliant idea sir! I've no idea why I didn't consider that sooner. Led Zeppelin + White Stripes = best tour of ANYTHING in the history or future history of mankind.
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So, just watched NCFOM and I didn't understand the ending at all . I've heard you really have to watch closely to 'get it', which I didn't. I kind of fell asleep when Tommy Lee Jones was talking to his uncle there.

That seems to be kind of a major complaint among people; it's like, they don't "get" the ending. As if they were expecting something superbly climactic or something. Basically, that ending scene with Tommy Lee Jones ties the entire concept of the movie together more perfectly than any action scene possibly could. I don't want to give too much away for those who haven't seen it yet, but basically Jones talking about how his dad was in his dreams and younger than him shows how old Jones is really feeling. Like, in the beginning Jones' narration explains how his father and him were sheriffs at the same time. So Jones' father being younger than him in his dreams shows that he's accomplished more than his father ever did. There's a lot of weird symbolism regarding the dreams in that scene, but I think it's a necessary way to end. Really gives a bookend feel to the movie, with Jones giving the opening narration and all. That's how I think of it, anyway.
The Rain Song rocks (my attempt at staying on topic)

My GOD, man, I swear the first five effing times I read that I thought you said that it sucks. Like, honestly, five times. It must be getting late. Here I was about to get mega angry with you, and over something I foolishly misread. Heh, never mind then.
Oh, and did you guys read that news article that was up on UG, like, I think it was yesterday? The one that said that IF Zeppelin went on tour, that Velvet Revolver would be pretty much the definite band touring with them? Okay, three things that are on my mind here:
1. Since when are Zeppelin even considering going on tour? I thought, essentially, they weren't and that was nearly set in stone. But whatever. They might go on tour. I don't think they should, but let's give Velvet Revolver the benefit of the doubt and say they will.
2. Really? Velvet fucking Revolver? I mean, they're okay, but worthy of touring with Zeppelin? There are numerous, numerous other bands that come to mind first before Velvet Revolver when I think of bands that would tour with Zeppelin. But anyway, this brings me to my third point.
3. Why would Zeppelin need a backing band to tour with? They could easily wipe the floor with just themselves. I'd be willing to bet that they could closesly rival the Stones or the Police on a tour; maybe not in terms of money but definitely in total fans in venues. I don't think Zep would charge as much as the Police or the Stones, but they could definitely pack some stadiums. So what's even the point of touring with another band?
Is anyone else in agreement with me here, or am I just delivering a true-to-fashion Seth rant?
Sorry, but this is gonna have to be split up into 2 posts. Why the hell does UG sometimes not post long posts? Pisses a long-posting guy like me off. Ahem, anyway...

Quote by DownInAHole.
I typically don't go to theaters often, unless I'm trying to score, meaning I don't watch the film. Needless to say, There Will Be Blood pwned and has been very overlooked lately.

I never used to too often, but lately I've taken a liking to this cheapass theater that only charges $2.50 per movie, as opposed to $7.50 and $7.75 at the other theaters. Plus, the first time I saw No Country there I missed the beginning, so we all sat in the theater and waited until the next showing of the movie (which was like ten minutes after the other showing ended) and got to watch the beginning again. They didn't even give a shit! 'Twas awesome!
And sure, yeah, scoring. Yeah. Going... to the movies... to... to score... yeah...
Quote by Cptbeefheart
You must see it in a theater, that is the only way to get the whole experience. It will totally live up to your expectations.

Right, but did you not read my post? ALL the theaters around here already stopped playing it. Even the one that plays months-old movies dropped it the effing DAY before I wanted to go see it. I still desperately want the DVD, though.
Quote by DownInAHole.
My favorite films lately:

Big Lebowski
Forest Gump
Catch Me If You Can
There Will Be Blood
Pulp Fiction

You've seen There Will be Blood?! Oh my GOD, if I could possibly transcribe into words how badly I truly want to see that movie, none of you would believe me, so I won't even attempt it. 'Nuff said. How the hell was it? One review I read of it compared it to reading Hemingway, visiting the Sistine Chapel, and listening to Beethoven's Ninth Symphony. The trailers and brief clips I've seen of it make it look just... just... god, I can't even think about it without going nuts. I was gonna see it here a couple weeks ago, but all the theaters stopped playing it the DAY before I went to see it. And it doesn't come out on DVD until sometime next month. I'm pissing myself with anticipation. I know I said I wouldn't attempt to explain my excitement to you, but I have to calm my fingers down before they erupt into convulsive seizures. Zach, you lucky bastard you.
Quote by zeppelinpage4
Seth you should post here more often.

Yeah, I should, but now that I'm on spring break I have even less time to post. I'm too busy with books, movies, and Guitar Hero. I'm even busier without school! But yeah, hopefully I'll be on more these next few days.
I actually had a chance to look through the old posts in this thread, from like a year ago. And yep, I pretty much realize that I've got this internet thing down. I come across as just as much of a smartass online as I am in real life! O joyous occasion!
Quote by Thursdae
Having to and wanting to are completely different things.

But the bottom line remains the same: you've an abbreviation, and that's that. Game, set, and match. Alright, I'll stop being a dick now. I was only kiddin' around, anyway.

By the way (continuing in my usual off-topic fashion), has anyone here seen No Country for Old Men yet? The Coen Brothers are effing geniuses. Zach, I'll bet you've seen it, eh? It's crazy good. Not as good as Fargo or The Big Lebowski, but daaaaaaamn close. Cool stuff.
Quote by Thursdae
Also, learn to spell our state

Says the user who had to abbreviate it.
Quote by punkrockgrl9
haha dont worry...anytime i ever hear any zeppelin song on the radio i COMPLETELY freak out

....and everyone thinks im insane.

good to know im not alone

Nope, you're not. There are plenty of insane people in the world.

I tend to not freak out at the radio, usually. I think the last time I did anything close to that was the last time I heard "Train, Train" by Blackfoot on the radio (it's mega rare around here, apparently). I always appreciate a good headbanging, and I guess I overreacted a bit that the radio was playing it; I think my little brother got a little scared. Oh well; I gotta make the most of the little Blackfoot I hear in these parts.
Quote by BladeSlinger
I have Rite of Spring and I don't find it too dark....Or I haven't heard the dark parts.....

Isn't that the one where, a few minutes into it, the entire orchestra is playing staccato tritones? It's an entire horrific section of music... it's extremely dark, if you ask me. It's crazy how people reacted to that piece of music when it was first performed. Check this shit out:
Quote by Wikipedia
At the start with the opening bassoon solo, the audience began to boo loudly due to the slight dischord in the background notes behind the bassoon's opening melody. There were loud arguments in the audience between supporters and opponents of the work. These were soon followed by shouts and fistfights in the aisles. The unrest in the audience eventually degenerated into a riot. The Paris police arrived by intermission, but they restored only limited order. Chaos reigned for the remainder of the performance, and Stravinsky himself was so upset on account of its reception that he fled the theater in mid-scene, reportedly crying.

Is that not the craziest thing you've ever heard? Imagine a fistfight erupting because of an effing concert performance! Utterly ridiculous.
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Funnily? Did you honestly say that?

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Yes, he honestly did. 'Tis a word, and I've used it on an occasion or two myself.
Hey, don't beat yourself up over it, kid. Anyone coulda made that mistake.
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The organ part to Stairway to Heaven, funnily enough, is not from either of those shows. The guy who types the Garden Tapes website, Eddie Edwards, doesn't know where the part came from, but it wasn't that show.

I've been wondering about something for a while now. On certain live Zep stuff, particularly on BBC Sessions, did Jones studio-overdub a bass part in addition to the live-recorded organ, or vice versa? Because on certain songs (I can't think of any specific one off the top of my head) it sounds like there's bass underneath the organs, and Jones doesn't have that many arms. Or does he somehow have an organ that does bass notes on the lower keys? It's been bothering me for a while because it just sounds incredibly odd.
Quote by Carswell98
3 separate shows I believe

don't quote me on that though

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's taken from 3 separate shows. And How the West Was Won was taken from 2. It's kind of annoying how the order of the songs is mixed up on both albums so you don't get the experience of listening to any one show straight through the way it was originally performed. I'm not exactly sure why Page screwed with the song orders so much when he mixed those albums; it's kind of always pissed me off.
Quote by Ardius
I view the word "cheesy" as someone feeling guilty about liking something. I mean, it all seems to stem from what we percieve as fashionably "normal". If you dont care about fashions, then why should you be worried about listening to certain music and, in turn, why call it cheesy?

In other words, "cheesy" is like saying "that's not fashionable" but in a more vague and subtle way.

This is why I say to such people, "I like it, so I don't care if you find it cheesy, I'll belt out the lyrics to Run to the Hills at the top of my voice and fully enjoy myself - and what's wrong with that?".

I use the word "cheesy" quite extensively, and usually not in a derogatory fashion. I consider things cheesy when they're hard for me to take seriously, which most metal, to me, is. It's basically a sub-term branching from the word "nerdy", if you ask me.
Hence, I find most sci-fi novels and metal music cheesy, although I still love them both. I mean, how can you take a band seriously (using Maiden as an extreme and perfect example) when they write rock songs about classic works of literature and famous historical events? Most of the entire metal genre to me is incredibly cheesy; but there's still a great deal of it that I like.
Quote by darkstar2466
What music isn't cheesy?

Most of Beethoven; especially his symphonies. That's about the polar opposite of cheesy if you ask me.
And, in a smaller sense, Bach isn't always cheesy either. He has some honestly existential moments in certain pieces of his music.
A large body of classical music could understandably be construed as cheesy, but I don't necessarily think that all of it is. And there's a lot of other music out there that's not cheesy; it's just that I find a large majority of Maiden's music to be incredibly cheesy. But in a fucking awesome way.
Quote by BrainDamage
I'm intrigued.

Jolly good!

So have you guys heard the news (I'm sure you have) that Page was talking about Zeppelin going on an international reunion tour? Like, it'd have to kick off in September at the earliest because Plant's gonna be touring with Allison Krauss, but even the fact that it's a possibility is pretty cool.

Wow, that felt weird. I was actually being on-topic.
Quote by zeppelinpage4
This thread would die if you banned me and P&H for writing albums like that.

Oh posh. With you and P&H out, Matt and I could discuss literature like civilized human beings! We could take up tea-drinking and organize online cryptogram championships. Ooh, and then we could discuss, for purely psychological reasons, which Zeppelin album you should listen to to help you best study for a school exam. Then we could call this place

and we'd all wear white chauffeur gloves and make outrageous fragmentary British remarks, such as "I dare say...!" and "Well I never...!"
Calm down, Seth. You're letting your fantasy get the better of you...

Oh, and looking through my Photobucket stuff for the first time in months, I came across a funny pic. Anyone remember the whole Robert Plant/fruit sex thing I went on for a few days? Here's the Church of Zeppelinism pic I found about it...

Good times...
Sorry, the stupid thing wasn't letting me edit my post to add to my rant. Ahem, where was I?
Oh yes, I was going to say that you might as well start typing Physical Graffiti as
P       H   Y       S
I       C   A       L
G       R   A       F
 F      I   T      I 

and How the West Was Won as

Quote by Carswell98
I sure hope you mean that

I love what I am

Damn straight, dude.
That's not something I'd lie about.

Oh, and to the moronic CO|DA/CO||DA argument: just call it Coda, guys. I mean fuck, come on! What's with the || shit?
Quote by Page&HammettFan
Another one that he recommended that was ****ing awesome was James Clavell's Shogun. I'll summarize it as best as I can if you guys like, but it's been a while since I've read it. It's also just a long ****ing read.. Something like 1153 pages, but it grips you the whole time. The first 200-300 pages are just setting the story up, and can get rather dull, but once it's all set up, and you understand what's going on at the time in the book, it's great.

A couple months ago I finally pulled through the home stretch of "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand. It's between 1000-1100 pages, the first 500 pages of which is totally, completely, entirely, THE MOST BORING GARBAGE EVER WRITTEN. It picks up moderately after that, but damn, that book was supposed to be a classic! What the hell?
Quote by Carswell98
maybe I just like him because he was a sarcastic atheist jackass just like me though

Sarcastic atheist jakcasses FTW!
Quote by BrainDamage
I'm doing dystopia.

Right on, man. I don't know, but for some reason I really think dystopian literature is best for satire, and showing the darkest type of realism possible. It just seems to be one of the most effective methods for writing, I think. Good luck with your senior paper, dude.
Quote by DownInAHole.
Huck Finn was a book that I couldn't stand, really. I thought Mark Twain was a hillbilly.

I half agree with you there. Huck Finn was inescapably dull, but a LOT of what Twain has written is great. His short stories are much better than his novels. You should read his "Letters From the Earth," which are a bunch of short letters he published bit by bit and revolve around Satan studying humans, which are a mere experiment to God, and sarcastically noting all of their foolish religious rituals. It's a pretty damn interesting read. Twain's pretty much a genius of satire, and to me that's one of the best ways to write.
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I forgot that I had 5 books listed as sources for my topic but my teacher wanted it narrowed down to three, so I ended up with A Clockwork Orange (which I read over the summer and really enjoyed), Fahrenheit 451 (read it freshman year), and 1984.

Nice, man! I got Fahrenheit 451 for Christmas but I haven't gotten around to reading it yet; I've read some other Bradbury stuff, though, and I know he's cool. Also, I desperately wanted A Clockwork Orange for Christmas, but unfortunately I didn't get it. Let me know how that is. Have you seen Stanley Kubrick's movie version of it? God damn, Stanley Kubrick's an amazing filmmaker. I love his stuff.

EDIT: ^Oh, and Hey Hey What Can I Do is a super-awesome song. I've always wondered why it remained a measly B-side, because it totally deserved to be put on Zep III. Granted it wouldn't be anywhere near as good as most of the stuff on Zep III, it's still awesome.
Quote by BrainDamage
^^Animal Farm is the second book I'm reading for my senior paper First person to guess the third gets a free bootleg of their choice

Slaughterhouse-Five by Vonnegut? Because Jesus, you couldn't possibly be doing three Orwell novels, could you?
And Seth, that definitely sounds like a good read, I'm looking forward to it.

Yeah, both that and Animal Farm are super short reads. Animal Farm especially. You could probably kill both of those in an afternoon, actually. Have fun, man.
Quote by DownInAHole.
I haven't read it. What's it about?

Well, it's about the year 1984, which, at the time of the book's publication (was it the late '30s or '40s? Damn, I can't remember), was futuristic but not so futuristic as to be unrealistic. Basically the world is divided into 3 super continents; the main one is Oceana (or Oceania? Cripes, I'm having a hard time remembering details!), and the other two are Eurasia and Eastasia. They're constantly at war with one another, switching sides every couple of years, which I think is only necessary to drive the economy or something.
But anyway, Oceania is slowly working its way into a completely fascist rule. The continent is headed by the illustrious Big Brother, a figure who may or may not be real and exists solely to have people submit to him, either the real him or just the idea of him. Cameras are installed in nearly every home and building, and spies and government workers creep everywhere. This is why a common phrase in Oceania in the book is "Big Brother is watching you."
Sorry to bore you with the background stuff. Basically, the novel focuses on Winston Smith, a government worker whose job it is to alter facts in old newspapers to make any previous publication agree with current publication. For instance, if Oceania has been at war with Eastasia for the past few years, and all of a sudden they war against Eurasia, it'd be Winston Smith's job to edit all old newspapers to make it seem as if Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia, and never Eastasia. In this sense the novel becomes increasingly terrifying as you realize how the government will do anything to blur all truth, making everything match with their idea of the truth. Pretty fucked up.
The awesome thing is, Winston Smith starts second-guessing the government, and he seems to be the only person who realizes that total fascism is morally wrong. So the novel follows him attempting to locate signs of other people who also disagree with the way the government operates, while at the same time being weary of becoming too attached to anyone, for there are brilliantly-placed spies everywhere.
It's a short read, but it's an incredibly suspenseful run from start to finish. It's sort of like Kurt Vonnegut in nature: it's not overtly science fiction (there are no lasers or spaceships), but it's dystopian to the point where a distinct sci-fi element can be recognized. It's a good read. Hopefully I didn't bore you all to death with that synopsis. I suck at summarizing.
Quote by Page&HammettFan
I have yet to read the Great Gatsby. My cousins in Ohio have all had to read that. I haven't had to read that one yet. My dad assigned me George Orwell's "1984" though, and I thought that was pretty sweet.

Yeah, I was really impressed with 1984 as well. My older brother, who's a literature geek, thinks it's super average, and he wasn't too fond of it. But I thought it was great... and horrifying at the same time.
Quote by Cptbeefheart
^Yes, there is all kinds of unnecessary symbolism in that book. I think its an undeserved classic to be honest.

I didn't like The Great Gatsby, like, within the first couple hours after I finished it, but after I gave it a couple days to sink in, I began to realize how awesome it is. The best part of it, I think, is the fact that it's so a sign of the '20s. Right after World War I, and before the Great Depression, people were living to the fucking extreme, partying and spending money like there was no tomorrow. So, basically, the snobby rich aspect mixed in with the tearing a marriage apart aspect both combined into this really dark, horrifying glimpse of the 1920s. The sheer realism of it all is truly revelatory. Plus, I think the way it's written from Nick Carraway's perspective and how he's torn between helping Gatsby out and keeping the marriage together is what makes it such a cornerstone of literature. It's just so damn brilliant how it's written.
Not that it's anywhere near my favorite book, but I certainly can see why it's a classic.
(Now that I'm back, you'll all get that daily dosage of Seth's rants that I know you all missed )

Oh, and I was just looking at the track lengths of the tunes on How the West Was Won today, and I came across an interesting/arbitrary thing that made me freak out (nerdily speaking). Dazed and Confused is exactly 25:25 in length. And Plant sings that one line that goes something like, "I'm gonna love you 25 hours a day," only he repeats "25" a bunch of times. Does anyone else think this is as weird as I do?
[anticipates thrown tomatoes and pre-emptively exits thread]
Quote by psychodelia
I'm a bit embarrassed about how much I like Battlefield Earth, what with the looniness of its author. But I found it to be a really fun read.

Yeah man, I'm about halfway through that one right now. It's completely non-stop action. It's effing awesome.
Quote by Kartman
I hate Stomp. Really one of the few Zeppelin songs I just don't like!

Really, man? That one might be my favorite from III! It kind of, like, captures the whole essence of how III was written, like it's a summary of the album or something. Every time I hear it, I can just picture four dudes sitting in a cramped little cottage on a green hillside, jamming out. I love that song.

But hey, speaking of songs we don't like, what's everyone's least favorite Zep song? (We've probably been over this twenty times before, but whatever) Mine would have to be D'yer Mak'er. I can never, ever, get into that one. The vocals are overly obnoxious to me, and whatever that scratchy noise is on every single god damn beat 2 and 4 of the entire song is super obnoxious. That song just bugs the hell out of me.
Quote by DownInAHole.

SETH! I haven't seen you since last year. What ya get for Christmas this year?

More video games to keep you away from us?!?!?

Well, Guitar Hero 3 was a sad addiction for a few days straight. But fortunately I'm over that now.
What I'm most excited about from Christmas is the books! Jesus, you should see how many god damn books I got! The Complete Works of Lewis Carroll (creaming myself ), "Battlefield Earth" by L. Ron Hubbard, "Lord Foul's Bane" by something Donaldson (maybe Stephen?), "Red Mars" by Kim Stanley Robinson, to name a few. Bitchin' stuff.
I don't mean to bore anyone with that, though. Thanks for not (openly) being disappointed that I'm back, dude. 'Tis always a plus.
Quote by s.r.v.
What is so great about the '77 US tour? i see all these people with the typical swan song logo and say "1977 United States of america tour" or something. I'm not great on my Zepppelin dates, but wasn't Presence in 1976, so 1977 would be close to the downfall with all the drug addictions, bonzo's death, all that stuff?

Well, it was Zep's final North American tour, for one thing. Plus, it was the tour supporting Presence, you know. Presence came out in '76, so it makes sense that they'd be internationally touring for it about a year later, no?
Also, Zep played something like six shows over a 9 or 10 day period at Madison Square Garden, which is pretty badass. It was either right before or immediately at the beginning of Zep's "downfall," I term I use warily because I still consider In Through the Out Door to be their best album.
Quote by BrainDamage
I dunno, I think "she is only three years old" is a pretty strong indication that he is talking about a three year old girl

Gotta admire your logic, Matt.

And Jesus I picked a weird time to stumble back into the Zep thread!
Quote by DownInAHole.
Oh, yes. I used to use that alot back when I was in tenth grade.

My new one is "douche canoe."

Douche canoe? Really? Wow, you guys get really fancy here. The most complex one I use is "douche bag." I frequent the terms "asshole" and "dick." Yeah, they're unimaginative, and call me old-fashioned, but you'd be surprised how effective they are.
Quote by SGstriker
All off-topic-ness aside, I don't think Zeppelin will do the Bonaroo (sp?) show, or any US show for that matter.

I don't know, I wouldn't completely rule it out. I might just be a dreamer, but it doesn't sound totally farfetched.
Also off topic, but there were some rumors going around that Metallica might do Bonnaroo as well. Any further developments on this story, does anybody know? It doesn't seem like something they'd do, but lately I'm not so sure. These last few years of my life have devastated my Metallica fanship more than anything has ever ruined any other fanship of a band before. [looks over wording of that sentence, frowns, then shrugs and moves on]
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The album version of the song, or the live album?

Oh, I just thought we were talking about the album version. I haven't seen the Song Remains the Same concert for a longass time; doesn't Plant just sing that song an octave lower live?
All I know is, on the album, that is not Plant's natural, un-pitch-shifted vocal. It sounds borderline zombie-ish.
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there's some funny business going on with Plant's vocals on "The Song Remains The Same", I suspect some pitch shifting. not that they'd ever admit to it.

Yeah, there's definitely pitch shifting done in there. But why would they never admit to it? It's, like, super-obvious.
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^ Good times......

.....bad times. Adieu, my gracious fellows. I simply couldn't resist!
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To be honest, I greatly prefer Aerosmith's version to The Yarbirds and Zeppelin's.

Hell yeah! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. To this day I'm still completely blown away by how much Aerosmith's version surpasses the original. Like, the Yardbirds version is cool and all, but Aerosmith takes it to a completely new level. It's effing amazing.

Oh wow, bringing the comic craze back. Maybe some of you guys here remember this one. I thought it was pretty good, anyway.

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yeah => wikipedia -_-
Rly dumb things(they call the immigrant song "the faggot song") but some things are funny
(Robert Plant loves babies, which is why he sings about them in almost all of his songs. "Baby, baby, baby..." Indeed, Plant spends much of his time today getting babysitting jobs for his neighbors. You can call his babysitting hotline at 1-800-BAB-EEEE.)

Now why in the world would anyone want to falsify/fictionalize the origins of Zeppelin lyrics? [non-suspiciously deletes posts in thread about fruit-related Zep album interpretations]
^Is this some charade of which I've missed the basis? Why is Twist of fate typing like an arthritis-ridden monkey?
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Man, to hell with that. Satellite radio is what you need.

My XM is one of the best purchases I've ever made.

Yeah, it'd be nice to have that. My mom recently got a new sound system for her car, and I kind of tried to talk her into getting XM, but she didn't think it was really necessary. Seems awesome, though. You're a lucky bastard, Zach.