That would be fine I reckon, it all depends how easily you learn new information and retain it. If by doing your current technique you find you're not remembering it then increase the time allocated. 

No real 'Black and White' answer really, but i'd suggest out of 4 hours, anything more than 20-30 mins would be overkill. 
I had a boss DD-6 as one of my first delay pedals. Pretty useful and dead simple to use too!
For tapping, ensure your actually making a 'flick' motion when you tap. If you just press down and up it will hardly make any noise. The main man Guthrie Govan goes over that point any a few more to do with tapping in his Lick Library tutorial. Sadly, it doesn't seem to be YouTube anymore but maybe someone can link you to it!
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StuartBahn Tying a rag around he neck, nearish the nut, also works well, for noise control in these situations.  Of course, the other problems start when that rag comes off !!

Yeah this is very useful for sweep picking. You'll see a lot of players do this for stuff where open strings are an issue (eight-finger tapping is another one). 

Main tip for your issue OP is to simply practice the left hand nice and slow and make sure it's 100% nailed on before increasing speeds. This can be annoying if you get stuck at a certain tempo (trust me, we've all been there!) but it will help you in the long run and you will eventually move onto higher speeds. Paul Gilbert always put it best for me when he said 'it's like a car, left hand is the steering wheel and right hand is the gas. If you can't steer, you shouldn't press the gas!'. Which is a cool way of putting it, nail the left hand and the right hand will come with it. 
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Says a guy with the username 'bass wizard".

Great username!?!? It was both available and factually correct. 
Sony Ericsson walkman phones and verrry dodgy music teachers. Glad to say I wasn't affected by either. 
Fast fret is good too. It's a lubricant that you place on the strings and dry off with a cloth, but then it makes sliding a lot easier. I'd highly recommend that.
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bass wizard

I really only have one general issue with CAGED (and other conceptual systems that share this same issue) which is the transfer required between an instance of the conceptual device and the desired result. This transfer, for example, includes using a major chord, or major scale, or major scale degrees, or major scale intervals, or major scale shapes, or major scale fingerings, etc. as the basis from which to play a non-major chord, scale, scale degree, scale interval, scale shape, or fingering, etc.

The short form of this issue is "thinking, visualizing, or hearing in your head what you do not intend to play in order to play what you do want to play" - this is a fundamental musical disconnect or mismatch that I will always warn against whenever appropriate. The OP has already been confused by CAGED, found a source arguing against it, and requested opinions about it. I stand by the opinion and advice I wrote; CAGED should be avoided.

All five of your assertions of "incorrect" are themselves incorrect, so I'm left wondering if you do not understand CAGED, or me, or both. If you want to pursue this in depth (beyond the scope of this thread), I'd entertain any new thread you wished to start wherein we and any interested others might follow through on discussion of CAGED.

Yep agreed, there should definitely be a stickey on CAGED. It's similar to the modes problem we had years ago where this forum was just filled with questions on that. I'm not really too bothered about starting one, but if someone wants to i'll throw my two cents in. I stand by my assertion I made on your post, CAGED works with minor chords as well as major chords, thats just simply fact. But maybe I am wrong on the others? It might be that we both have gaps in our knowledge of CAGED? The problem I think a lot of people have with CAGED is they get too hung up on it being about open chords, where really they are just frame work similar to any other scale shape we may learn. CAGED is really about knowing where the root notes are for each pattern and therefore, you will instantly know the root note, chord tones and scale notes where ever you are on the fretboard. The MasterTheTheory lesson I posted earlier goes into more depth on this point. 

Appreciate you standing by your position, I only took objection to you calling it a 'monsterous mess'. As Steven Seagull put, it might not work for you but that doesn't mean you should instantly turn others off of it. 

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I strongly recommend avoiding CAGED.
You see, it is already confusing you!

The F and B are not missing from the CAGED because F=E and B=A

CAGED letters represent the cowboy chord shapes above the barre of barre chords

So the F shape is the barre version of the E shape, and the B shape is the barre version of the A shape

Strangely, the barre versions of the C and D shape are the same shape (unless you play "Girl D")

Problems with CAGED:

- major chords only (some will say you can derive/construct the minor, seventh, and other types from major) Incorrect
- if you derive the other chord types, you are using a chord you do not want to hear or play to derive a chord you do want to hear and play Incorrect
- the names of the shapes are the major cowboy chord shapes before applying the bar, but once you are using these barres you are no longer playing the letter name of the shape; you are playing a different named chord Incorrect

- so basically it totally confounds the root names of chords you are playing with the cowboy chord name that you are not playing, and it uses the type of chord you may not want to hear and play (major) to derive the type of chord you do want to hear and play Incorrect

The whole CAGED thing is a monstrous mess... if you want to learn to play by ear you must never fool around with CAGED!!!! Incorrect

Paul, I will preface this by saying normally you're spot on, but i've seen you spout this nonsense about CAGED on quite a few posts now.

1.) It works for minor chords as well as major chords, this is very obvious. 
2.) Again, your confusion with the letter shape/chord name is also very simple. It's just a way of describing what shape you're playing, so a 'A shape' B major chord is very obviously a A shape barred at the second fret of the A string. It just like saying '1st position' or '2nd position' pentatonic scale, it's simply a label of the shape.

I've said it before on one of your posts, i'm not sure labelling it as useless (or in this case a 'monstrous mess') if very helpful at all. The caged system is a way of breaking down the fretboard into chunks and by having solid fretboard knowledge, you will be able to play a chord, arpeggio or scale absolutely anywhere on the fretboard with out any fuss. The real trick is learning how to different shapes work with each other, because then instead of lots of small chunks it becomes one large chunk that you can glide around with ease. I know you're opinion of the CAGED system is your own (therefore none of my business) but maybe lay off the dismissive attitude towards this?


I've embedded three YouTube videos about the CAGED system and why it's useful below:

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Good video explaining what the benefits and qualities of learning this method will be. 

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Pretty basic introduction to the CAGED system and a good little visual guide to it on the fretboard.

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Good little video, taking the CAGED system and building on it further. 

Hope that helps  
Locrian mode or some other form of jarring Diminished scale are the first that spring to mind when the word sinister is used. But really, this is useless without giving us the chord progression you're using.
No correct way to hold the pick. So long as you can pick for extended periods of time at your top speed with no pain occurring then you'll be fine. 
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CAGED is a way of breaking down the major scale across the entire fretboard.  It is not just about triad. That is just one step.  The idea is that you learn the root notes across the fretboard.  Then you learn a major chord built off the root in five different places across the fretboard. You then add two more notes to that chord to get the Pentatonic linked to each major chord shape and finally the full diatonic major scale linked to each chord shape across the entire fretboard.

It's useful.

Also those people that create some kind of dichotemy "this way is better than that way" are pretty silly.  Both have advantages.  Learn both. Use them for what they are...learning tools.  What you really want to practice though is applying musical ideas in your practice of the scales.  Those should be your own musical ideas as well as learning other songs.  The more songs you learn that move all over the fretboard will free you up more and more across the fretboard.

good luck!!

OP, this is probably the best piece of advice given. If you take anything away from this thread, make sure this is it. 
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As far as I can see, CAGED is based on the major C, A, G, E, and D cowboy chords, specifically the major chord tones, of which there are three, and since the chord is comprised of notes played on the strings, one note per string, both as a chord and arpeggio.

Once you add the non-chord tones of major to produce minor or more than three notes per octave, you have bumped up to pentatonic or diatonic, and the whole CAGED thing is irrelevant. Once you are actually playing scales, the only thing CAGED is doing is indicating tonics of those scales corresponding to the roots of the CAGED chords, but now those scales (except major) no longer relate or correspond with those CAGED major chords. In order to get to the scales you have to step away from CAGED as soon as you have the scale tonic from the CAGED major chord root - that root showing the tonic is all the CAGED gives you at the point you are playing scales.

If you are learning pentatonic and diatonic scales, you have already broken past what the CAGED has to offer (which is really just a totally bizarre, confusing, and redundant way to simply assign the notes on the fourth, fifth, and sixth strings as tonics of scales).

Yeah I get what you mean, but at that point the caged system becomes a way of seeing the entire fretboard. It's a way of not becoming stuck in one pattern and it's a way of knowing where the chord tones are. I don't think labelling it as redundant is very useful to OP at all if i'm honest, there are many guitarists who understand and utilise this method to good effect. 
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Damn, I'm really sorry. Stay safe out there mate #PrayForTheWestMidlands

Appreciated mate. 
Tbf it's hardly been noticeable in the West Midlands. 
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The real mystery is:  when will people stop think that everything is modal?

Modes have a connotation of being a good musician in the guitar world and thus people will try and angle everything into modes. 
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Recently, I listen to a backing track.In that only two chords were there in the background ,those were D power chord and E power chord.So, i asked a guy about the scale  he was playing to solo over that track.He told it is closely associated with mixolydian  and also said that since only two chords were there in the backing track therefore deducing a scale out of them might just be jumping soon to a conclusion .So, i am confused about how did he get to know that mixolydian will be fit in to create a good  solo over that track.Can anybody please help me out with it?


All those chords contain E, B, D, A, which E Mixolydian has.

E Mixolydian: E,F#,G#,A,B,C#,D (as you flatten the 7th in the mixolydian mode).

You can use Mixolydian mode over any power chord, due to the fact that power chords don't utilise that 7th note and therefore the flattening of the 7th won't affect it.

Also, like previously mentioned, it's a pretty common rock mode.
Either is fine as long as you pick one and stick to it. It might be quite useful to use this tuning to learn basic transcribing too! (Invaluable skill that doesn't really get taught to guitarists).

Just out of curiosity, what is it about this tuning that sounds good to you? I get different tunings, but surely this one just sounds like standard A=440 but a whole tone lower?
Dude, you've been playing for 2 months. That's absolutely nothing, don't get too hard on yourself. The more you practice correctly (correctly being the key term) it will all eventually snowball into place. And don't worry about the fat fingers, I weigh 300 and I have no problems, your hand will adjust to the stretches over time.
Playing guitar to try and get my chops back to where they were at. Then probably smash some Halo 3 now it's backwards compat. Other than that sweet f.a.
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Knowing where notes are and chord tones and intervals won't allow you to play fast.  The only way you'll play fast is if you practice for speed.  If you don't have the physical ability, you won't be flying anywhere regardless of how well you may know the neck.  That was kind of my point with this thread.  There is a mental aspect and physic aspect of playing things like fast scale runs and many people same to undervalue the latter when the latter is much more important to technical playing.  You can have all the knowledge in the world but without technique, what good is it?  

Like in the scale run I posted.  I don't care how easily you can identify notes and what intervals they are relative to an underlying progression of possibly F-G-Am or just F-Am or how easily you could tell me the names of the notes if we transpose up a third or whatever.  Unless you have the chops to play the scale run, you can't play the scale run and that's that.

Yeah maybe fly wasn't the greatest word I could've used. I wasn't referring to speed in any way at all. More ease.
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bass wizard Yup.  Also, not just to see them as patterns, but to know the intervals present and how to handle them.

And also to know where the roots are on each string in each different CAGED position. If you know that, you can fly around the neck all day without any hassle! Knowing your chord tones is pretty crucial too.

I am recently returning from a 6 month break from playing the guitar. Upon returning, I am finding chords above the 11th/12th fret quite hard to finger. On quite a number of occasions there are 'dud' notes in the chord when I play the notes individually and just actually fingering those chords is quite a tricky situation. It's a little easier when I play with the guitar sat in what is commonly known as the 'classical guitar' posture, but there are still occasions when it happens. I think it's due to the fact that the pad of one of fingers is muting the string below it.

Do you guys have any good exercises that can help me fix this, or is just a case of my hand/wrist getting used to these chord shapes again?  

Note: I feel it's important to stress this never happens when I play chords lower down the fretboard, it's is only in the higher regions of the neck. If I move the same fingering down the fretboard I can play it with absolutely no trouble at all.

I feel the CAGED system is a great way of learn your way around the fretboard. The trick is to be able to blend seamlessly between the patterns when improvising and not to get completely stuck in one position.
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Just been released. Massive fan of Four Tet, this is quality.
Headphones. Immediately better sound quality/comfort. If you think headphones in public look weird, you weird!  
If you've got no backup I think you're pretty fucked mate. 
Still can't get my head around Amber Rudd's win in her seat. How can you be 100 behind in 2 counts and then eventually win by 300? Where the fuck did those  400 votes come from? 
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So since the big 1992 fuckup they're pretty reliable, we all agree

No. I'm almost 100% sure the 2015 exit poll was wrong. In fact, there's quite a few political twitter accounts agreeing. In the article it stated the post 10pm exit poll in 2015 had hung parliament. 
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iirc the exit polls predicted Tory majority. The pre-election polls were shouting hung Parliament.

Not sure of the reliability of the source, but it's pretty much identical to this one. And we all know the result of 2015   
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Ah you're right - sorry - I was going by memory.

Tbf, it was one of the only times, the other being sometime in the 90's that it was wrong. But the shy Tory voter always tricks these things. Sadly, I think Conservatoires will be marginally okay. 
It won't be a hung parliament. 2015 predicted the same and Tories went on to win. They'll be fine, it will be a major scare for the Tories but they will still win.
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hasn't been wrong in 25 years

basically they hang around outside polling stations asking which way you voted

Eh? Didn't the 2015 exit poll suggest a hung parliament before the Tories went onto win? 
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Ever gossip about folks when they aren't around?
Ever stonewall an individual as they walk by you?
Ever avoid eye-contact?
Ever noticeably change your tone of voice when someone enters a room?

It all adds up. None of those things warrant a killing, but it all adds up eventually. It's called slow violence, and violence always retaliates. Sad story.

It's also what happens when absolute head-cases can get hold of guns easily. But that's a discussion for a different thread. Very sad times indeed, seems nowhere is safe at all   
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From Birmingham.

Absolute bullshit.

Yep, i'm from the West Midlands too and can confirm it's utter bollocks. One of the most culturally diverse and interacting cities in the UK. Sure, there's the odd racist prick in the region, but they're in the VERY small minority. 
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The IRA weren't known for suicide attacks, they wanted to survive to strike again.

Your mayor "Sadiq Khan" is urging you to remain calm, I give it less than a month before there's another attack.

And now a PSA from Donald Trump.
He simply stated to remain calm about the increased amount of armed policed. No need to swallow everything Donald says as fact. You're better than that, I hope. 
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The guy can't even quote another person correctly. Honestly, the man is a moron.
I've had a TT for a while and a TS-9 works well.
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two things

what the fuck is forster even doing anymore

i hope that's the last time we see moreno in a liverpool shirt

Both Inter and AC are apparently willing to meet Liverpool's £15m valuation of him.