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Interestingly, I actually asked Andy James for tapping tips once, and he said he finds action that's a little higher to be better for it. Obviously YMMV.

Either way, this isn't the forum for this kind of question, so I'mma move it to the right place
I don't know that I've ever seen a real name for it, but I think it would be easier to refer to it by style, which is as you say: funk rhythm. That sort of idea is totally derived from funk rhythm guitar, so that's what I'd call it if I wanted to get the idea across to someone else.
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Yes they are too expensive.  They also waste time.  Why have a guitar teacher when you have the internet.  

I think a blanket statement like this isn't very helpful to be honest, I mean, there's all sorts of benefits you can get from an in-person teacher that you simply cannot get from the Internet. I mean, some of the best and most informative times I've had with teachers have been times when we've jammed on some simple track. There's a lot to be said for someone seeing you in real time and you trying to keep up trading licks with someone who wants you to learn.

There's also the additional benefit of a local teacher being able to connect you to the local music community, it's not something you need a teacher to do, but they will probably be able to help you.

There's also being able to sit and play something in front of someone and them being able to see what you're doing and give real time feedback. That's not something you can get from youtube, and you can only get a half-decent approximation from an online teacher.


That said, at the end of the day, all this depends on the individuals wants, needs, and how much money they have to spend on lessons. That's not something anyone apart from the person in question can judge.
huongthaoan, this is a really big question, do you have some specific sound in mind? An artist you would like to sound like, for example?
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Are you insinuating that because you are a moderator, that fascism applies as a result? You stated this is not a discussion. Please elaborate further ... 

If that's how you want to term it, yes, although I'd be careful about throwing around words like "fascism" as it seems a little bit strong to me. I've been trusted with moderating this forum by the people who own/run the site which means if you break the rules (which is explicitly within my judgement), I can warn/ban you.

You apologized, and that's great, really, that and the commitment to making your humor more obvious in future is really good and I applaud that. That's the kind of interaction I want to encourage here: thoughtful, considerate, and reflective. I may have gone a little overboard with my initial comment, but that's a reaction to your mildly insulting language. Please don't do that in future, and I'll do my best to be better about my replies.
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Don't be a douche and try to dictate what others do ... it was a stab at humor ... maybe a poor one, but still ... 

I'm going to direct your attention towards the green "m" next to my username, and the fact that this is not a discussion.

Furthermore: if I can mistake your "joke" for a serious statement then other people can as well, and that's not the atmosphere we want here. Think more carefully in future, and if you're going to make jokes that could be taken the wrong way, please make it much more obvious that you're joking. Emoji/smilies exist for a reason.
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This really should go in the Cover Songs or Video forums. Normally I would move the thread but the link you've posted is broken somehow anyway, so I think you should remake the thread.

I'm going to close this now, but please come back if you have a question for the users here!
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The thread question is a trick question ... There is no such thing as  excellent Black Metal Music ...

Don't be an asshole, this isn't the place for you to take cheap shots at other people's music taste.
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I would post a few YT links, but it looks like your links got removed so maybe not.

To be clear: OPs links were removed because they were advertising, if you have some YT links you think are helpful, please do post them!
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I've been playing electric guitar for the past few months. I started off with learning the most basic riffs. You know them. Seven Nation Army, Smoke on the Water, Brain Stew, etc. but I haven't really found myself getting better. Should I continue on with learning riffs/songs but move on to more difficult stuff or should I be doing something else entirely to improve such as learning basic chords/scales(I really don't know what scales are haha)?
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I've removed the links from your post, and I'm on the verge of banning you for link spam. You're on your final warning.
Interestingly, Dragonforce have actually really knuckled down and cleaned up their live act since the earlier days, last time I saw them (2009 I think it was?) they actually had a pretty clean live show. Yeah, a lot of the original recording has studio sheen/trickery on it, but these days they can actually do most of it live!
I'm really glad it's worked out for you, and super happy to see you post back here about it, updates like this are really appreciated, thank you!
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All right y'all I'm going to need everyone to take a step back from this thread and reassess, because this is going nowhere.

mantenido158, I understand that this is frustrating but right now you're just arguing with people, and that doesn't make people want to help you. Please just take a minute and think about what you want from this thread, and also bear in mind that in this forum (Guitar Techniques, not the whole of UG) the implicit nature of any thread is to ask for help. If you just want somewhere to vent, I get it, but that's not really what this forum is for: UG has blogs, and if you feel strongly enough you can submit an article. On the other hand, if you would like help, trust me when I say that the users here do want to help you, but you do need to ask a question and try to take on board what they're saying.

Cajundaddy theogonia777 MaggaraMarine Bigbazz reverb66, try and remember that TS is getting really frustrated with what's going on and (it looks to me anyway) is letting off some steam. That is part of why this seems to be devolving in to an argument, or at the very least there's little helpful discussion going on. I want to ask for some empathy from you all, and try to understand why TS is here to begin with.
Thing about EJ is, he's so famously particular about his tone that trying to say it's down to any one thing is going to be an exercise in frustration. Also, as you've spotted, he uses a metric tonne of super high-end, expensive, and vintage gear; trying to get his tone is going to be super difficult and/or expensive. So I would suggest that the best thing to do is just find a tone that sounds good rather than is super accurate. That, in this case, is going to mean finding a tone that's got that sort of piano-ish quality that his has, but that still rings those harmonics. I think a compressor might be a good call here, but I'm not a super gear-savvy dude, so don't take my advice on gear too seriously.

That said, the 4:35 thing, is a different technique completely. He's strumming the strings over the fretboard for a specific tonal effect: strumming over the neck generally makes your tone warmer and rounder, and EJ is exploiting that for a really specific effect on that exact strum. I don't believe it's failed harmonics or really anything to do with the technique of harmonics at all.

Dave_Mc, EJ is not human, don't you go spreading such vile lies

Seriously though, EJ is an absolute master of the instrument with pretty peerless control, so it's worth keeping that in mind. Not saying give up, just saying it's realistically a lot of work to sound like him at all. Keep at it, though, and you'll get there!
I think what might be an important question that no one has asked yet: what sort of Black Metal are you in to? After all, Black Metal can be kind of a broad set of sounds. Like, are we talking Immortal? Emperor? Dødheimsgard? Physically there's going to be kind of the same skill set, but there's a few different applications there.
To be perfectly honest, it's my belief that handedness doesn't actually make a huge amount of difference once you've gotten in a good amount of practice. I mean, both hands have so much to learn that which one you choose for which job feels largely academic to me.

That said, I am right handed and have always played right handed, so it's possible that I am biased and/or uninformed.
fretflip well for me it depends on context and what else is going on. When the situation suits I've hit those octave intervals with my middle finger on the lower pitch and my pinky on the higher one. I'm not going to say you should practice that, but it's worth being aware that almost everything on guitar is situational; nearly anything can be the right answer in the right context.

Also I'm going to have to reiterate what Steven Seagull has said to you in other threads: please keep posting link to your tool to a minimum. Using it when appropriate is one thing but literally every post you've made contains a link to it. I don't want you to leave the site: everyone is welcome and has something to contribute... but if you're going to post the same off-site link in every thread that's basically advertising, which is definitely against the rules.

I'm going to leave it for now, like I said I don't want you to leave UG or anything, but please be more mindful of what you're posting.
MaggaraMarine it's all good, I don't think there's been any harm done in this case. Just trying to get people to be more aware of this sort of thing
MaggaraMarine all right dude, calm down. Guitar is a big thing and there's a lot of instructional material out there, TS is probably confused about where to begin. That's fine, they're trying to get help and that's a good thing.

lostx, since you are asking a lot of questions, I'm going to point you towards the thing I recommend to all beginners: Justin Sandercoe's Beginner Course. It covers the basics you need and will help you build a good foundation to go from. Justin's a really good teacher and all round good dude. Go through the lessons one by one, in order, and if things don't make sense, please come back with any questions you might have. I will ask, though, that you try and make your questions a bit more specific than the ones you've asked so far: we want to help but it's difficult to answer questions that are super broad.
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So he's going to be doing a pretty normal harmonic, but you definitely have to be more precise to get the sounds you want up that high on the neck.

I suggest watching this video:


That should give you some basic understanding of how harmonics actually work, which will help you figure out how to get the harmonics to sound on your guitar. From there it's a matter of practicing slowly and being really precise about where you're pinching to get the harmonic to sound.
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MaggaraMarine usually I'd agree, but in this case they're talking about fatigue, which is a different matter. For songs like Battery, Master Of Puppets, and so on, you're going to need to build up the stamina to play them all the way through. That's generally going to be a matter of pushing yourself until fatigue, taking a break until you're back to normal, and then doing it again.

Again, to stress: any kind of pain and I would agree, but fatigue and pain are really not the same thing
Wow dude, this is pretty damn amazing! I can tell it's a real labor of love, and with any luck I'll get a good lot of use out of it! Thank you so much for sharing this with other people!
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MaggaraMarine As in a compressor pedal

Sadly no, that has a completely different function. A sustain/compressor pedal evens out the volume of everything you play a little (it "compresses" the volume), so it won't make those kinds of harmonic tones happen at all.
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1. Do really accomplished musicians essentially lose the concept of scales? 

For example, if I knew a backing track was in C Dorian, I would have to consciously use a C Dorian scale over the top.  However, if you were really good and were able to instinctively make anything fit, would you even be considering scale shapes/intervals at all?

I'm not 100% on what exactly this means, I think you're asking a couple of different things here really:

The aim of most (I'm not going to say all) improvisers is to be totally free of shapes and scales and everything and to simply play the sounds in their heads. Realistically... that's difficult. Like... seriously difficult. That's the sort of freedom that takes years upon years of dedicated work to get to, and as far as I know, there are very few people who are truly that free when improvising. Most people will still be thinking about the intervals and notes and so on.

With that, you also mentioned being "able to instinctively make anything fit", which is a very different thing really. Being able to make any note fit is definitely something you can do, but it's matter of context, what you as a player think "fits" in any given situation. I guess what I'm saying about that is that it's more of a problem of philosophy than it is any concern about actually playing. After all, if we're playing in C Dorian and what I want to do is play the most dissonant thing possible, then in that moment, the thing that's going to work is going to be a mash of Db (the b2) and Gb (the b5), because those are just about the most unstable and dissonant notes available in that context. Who's going to tell me that this is the wrong thing to do? If it sounds ugly and that's my aim, then those notes are, de facto, the correct choice We're still thinking in notes and intervals, but then it's much more a question of intent.

For a little more on being able to make any note fit, I think this is worth watching:

I can't remember if it's 'level 4' or 'level 5', but Jacob goes through a series of chords that show how, given the right context, any note can work with any other. You just need to choose when to use which notes carefully, and consider how you want things to end up sounding. Also, if you're not familiar with him, watching anything from Jacob Collier (and listening to his album In My Room) is 100% worth it, a lot of it might go over your head (I certainly don't understand everything he says), but his sheer breadth of knowledge and infectious enthusiasm are simply wonderful!
elsmandino that's awesome, so glad for you! Sounds like you're well on your way to making some good progress!
Basically you're on the right track already: playing/transcribing things by ear is the way to go. Like you've noticed, it's none too easy to get in to, but one thing that might help is for you to sit in front of the TV or whatever, and try to figure out the themes/incidental music in whatever it is you're watching. It doesn't have to be the full song with all the harmony and everything, but pick out the melody line as you hear it and try to play that. Dive in to pop music and try to figure out the vocal lines. There are a whole load of options, anything that you can hear, you can do this with!

There's nothing wrong with making mistakes, and those will get much less frequent as you practice the skill, but the important thing is to keep at it and keep working out new songs.
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With that said I still think his picking technique is weird. Lol

It definitely is!

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I just wish I knew what exactly he had to learn to get to where he is, so I don't waste time learning stuff that I don't need.

Kind of the problem with that is... for getting to a level like Marty's there is nothing you don't need. He's a supremely well balanced musician who, aside from his aversion to scales, will have learned everything he possibly can at every opportunity. That's the best possible advice anyone can give you if you want to get to his kind of level: learn everything you can. Anything you learn makes you a better player than you were before you learned it.
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I think down picking everything is overrated.  You can play a lot of traditionally all down picked stuff using alternate/economy picking and only a few guitar nerds, who think alternate picking Metallica tunes is some sort of a massive crime, will notice.  With that said, some riffs do feel more natural down picked and the timbre is slightly different. 

I dunno man, I think audiences might notice, but they almost certainly won't be able to tell you what it is. Fans of music like Metallica would probably say "It just doesn't feel right" or something, while being unable to articulate exactly it is that's missing.
There's a couple of things that could be going on here that people don't really talk about very much:

1 - You should be trying to mute with both of your hands. For those metalcore palm muted riffs that's going to mean holding down the palm mute and pressing the fingers that are holding the pick in to the strings, as well as laying your fretting hand across the strings.
2 - With your fretting hand, you should be spreading out your fingers across multiple frets. What I suspect you're doing at the minute is actually laying your fretting hand fingers across a single harmonic node, getting that harmonic sound. If you spread out your fingers a bit, you won't be on a single harmonic node and the strings will mute much more effectively. Watch this:

And pay attention to what Drewsif is doing during those super stop-start riffs, he spreads his fingers to get the best mute possible.

If those things don't work, I think you're going to need to try and record yourself playing (if you've got a phone or laptop from the past 5-6 years you'll definitely be able to do this) and post it here so we can see what you're doing and give you better help.

Either way, good luck, if you keep at it you'll get there in time!
It's very difficult to say what is and isn't being muted without hearing the recording, but from the picture that definitely looks like an E shaped minor barre chord. The player is probably fretting the low E with their thumb, and the rest of the chord "normally", but like I said it's hard to say for 100% certain without hearing the recording.
This is one of the subtleties that people don't often tell you about:

This is a legato slide where you slide from one note to another and don't pick the destination/target note. There are also non-legato slides, where you would slide down and then pick again, in time, when you reach the target note. The second type would be notated without the slur line between the two notes, that is, it would have the straight line between the two numbers, but no curved line over the top.
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