Ikillintel i know Fortin amps are suposed to be amazing. But building an amp and making an amp sim are two wildly different things. As far as i know Fortin just put its name on the sim, but its made by someone else.
There are a few minor gripes with the Helix if I had to nitpick, the EQ's could be better/more varied (I would love something like a Waves C4 multiband compressor), the Wahs could be better (they don't sound as organic as standalone units) and the tuner could be more responsive in loud environments, I wish it had an acoustic simulator built in (something I've used in the past) and I wish it had a dedicated gated reverb preset/model.. Even still, on the whole the Helix effects setup and quality of the effects available makes it in my opinion the best product on the market, with only a few minor points.
A lot of the effects are so good that standalone products with a specific function might cost 1/4 of the price (of a HX effects) or more and yet are effectively indistinguishable with their copycat preset on the Helix.
Could not agree more with all your points. They did improve the tuner in the last update tho, its A LOT better. The update came out a few days ago, so you should try it out if you havent yet.
I use the Helix pitch-shifter a lot, it's decent up to a 1 tone in either direction and it has decent octave/harmony functionality. I think it suffers in quality a lot when you try to transpose the entire signal (so full pitch shift rather than harmonies) more than 1 full tone, but I think that is kind of inevitable with any pitch shifter including The Drop. If by pitch-shift he's talking about the Digitech Whammy pedal the full Helix does a decent job but the HX-Effects obviously doesn't have an expression pedal built in so it can't work that job.
In terms of phasers, chorus, delays, reverbs, compresssion and OD pedals etc the HX is amazing, perhaps even unbeatable currently.
I actually really dislike the one on the helix. Its one of the few sour points, even when you transposed it for one or two steps, so i never use it for playing actual songs. The one on the kemper worked much better when i had it.
Actually any latching 1switch pedal should work. I even hooked up a 2 switch pedal and it worked. And i wired my own as well, and it still worked. Its really the most basic switch you can find. You can even try by just runing two wires into a jack, and shorting the contacts, and see if that will switch the channels. Also test your original footswitch, because maybe something broke in the amp, not in the switch.
Out of those i personally heard and used the Katana and the Code. The Code was a piece of shit, but the Katana is suprisingly good. Id say go with that. If nothing else, the Katana 50 has a 12" speaker, while the Voxes have a 10" one, and there is a suprisingly big differnece between them.
dthmtl3 Actually the Stomp is not near-Helix, it is helix quality, since it uses the same models of everything. The only thing thats missing is a bunch of I/O options that the helix has, and the presets are limited to 6 blocks. You can actually transfer presets from the helix to the stomp if you work within those parameters.
Bigbazz Its the same. There is a slight difference in response because the input levels are different, but it also has a dB meter that shows you if you have your gain setup in the right zone. If you get it right, its indistinguishable from the actual unit. I did the trial for Native before i actually bought the unit, just to see what sounds i can get from it, and once i got the actual pedal, it was the same damn thing. Even the UI for the editor and Native is the same. Its pretty resource heavy tho, i dont think i ever had a guitar plugin that took up so much cpu and ram. But it works on my ancient laptop, so i think it shouldnt be to bad on a decent computer nowdays.
dspellman Not sure if, setting everything else aside, the quality of the sound improves dramatically as you go from AmpliFi to POD HD500 to Helix.
It does actually. The amp models in the helix are vastly superior to the ones in the POD. Not saying that you cant get a great sound out of the pod, but it takes so much more effort, its not even funny, and its beyond what most people are really capabale of. I think that just the sound of it is worth the price increase, but the other stuff makes it more than worth it.
Everyone is going to suggest a different plugin, so you might as well just look up a list of them all online. The thing is, most of the ones out nowdays sound good if you pair them with a good impulse response. So its about picking the one you find the most handy to use and that you think sounds the best. Currently everyone is shitting their pants about the Fortin Suite, you have the Misha Mansoor plugin from joey sturgis, the Mercuriall plugins, BIAS, Amplitube.... There is a lot of them out nowdays. I personally prefer the Helix Native, becuase i also use an actual helix for playing, but that one is a bit on the pricy side (if you intend to pay for them). It does have a 30day trial, so you can see if you really like it. Actually, you should look at as many sims you can find, and download free trials and try them out. If they dont have free trials, well, this is the internet, so everything has a free trial out there somewhere....
erdemalsirt99 your voice is not deep like a traditionly trained baritone singer, because your techniqe is horrible. And honestly dude, you really need some lessons, this simply isnt good. And the autotune actually makes it worse.
erdemalsirt99 Its because your voice sounds strained and thin when you sing high up, but sounds open and full when you sing in the lower range, at least thats what i can hear from those acapela covers. When you classify voice types, the range doesnt really matter that much, but what does matter, is where your voice sounds "the best". I am a baritone, but i can still hit the tenor C5. It just sounds different than if a tenor sings that high.
erdemalsirt99 There is some VERY obvious autotune going on there, that just goes wild at sime points, and you clearly didnt really know how the song goes. Its entertaining at least. Anyway, i have no idea what voice type you are from this, probably some sort of baritone. TBH it really doesnt matter much when it comes down to it. .
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti Helix. As I said at the start it makes me nervous thinking my entire kit is in this one device, whether it's a valid concern or not. Yes you could say that about an amp or guitar but how are you going to substitute for a Helix? You can't.
Now I'm thinking about buying that Helix Stomp.
You can substitute with another helix. A full sized helix + the LT or HX stomp cost less than a single good rig. And you can actually have a bunch of cheaper backups like an old pod hd500 or the mooer ge200, or even mooers preamp pedals and radar. Basicly you can get a simple backup that acts as a helix for like 150$ if you are clever. Hard to say that about a tube amp.
Also compared to what I was using before it's simplifying matters, I carry my entire setup on my person (Helix Backpack + Guitar case) as apposed to having a 2x12 combo, pedalboard with 4 leads + patch cables (potential to go wrong) and mic + mic lead to mic the amp up. So I've not only vastly increased the flexibility of my guitar rig but I've also made it easier to carry and much faster to setup, I have no backline because I use inear monitoring (which I was using when I used an amp too).
This, all the way. Nowdays i just lug around my helix case and my guitar. Thats all I need, and i can put all the cables and whatnot in those two cases, so i dont need anything else. If i know ill need a bunch of stuff, i can also bring a small backpack with me. But the ammount of stuff I need just went down so drasticly, its not even funny. Even when i had the Kemper, i still had to lug around the entire rack case with me, and a footswitch, but with the helix its literally 2 items that i have to carry. The entire band went from having to go to a gig with a van and a car to going with just one car.
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I don't have a backup at the moment though, at least not one that I take with me. I need to get something really small (like the size of a single stompbox) that I can carry in my Helix case that could save me for a clean and drive sound on the spot, some of my old Digitech stomp boxes might have that functionality.
Ive been thinking about this for a while, and i think either one of those mooer preamps+mooer radar pedal, or maybe the HX stomp that was just released.
Perverockstar69 If you use snapshots you have zero latency when switching them. You get 8 diffrent snapshots for a preset, i think that can cover any song. For one band i had a preset for each song, and then had snapshots for each section of the song in that preset. There was zero preset switching during songs.
I own a helix. Its the standard floor model, not the LT, but i did also test drive the LT, and software and sound wise, its the same thing. Its only missing the scribble strips and a few inputs and outputs on the back side. I actually owned a kemper, and i sold it to get the Helix and a 5150. I planed to use the helix as multifx unit with my amp for practice and giging, and as a standalone unit at home, but since then the 5150 is pretty much gathering dust, because the helix is just so good. The interface is very simple to use, you have a bunch of different ways of controlling the thing, there are some great in depth options when you delve into the deeper settings. The switches are configurable in pretty much any way you want it, you can eq different outputs in a different way, you can run multiple instruemnts trough one. The amp models are great, and since you can load up your own IRs you can really get a great sound out of it. That said, even the stock cabs are decent. If you want, you can put any of your pedals in the helix fx loops, and to top it of, all the outputs can be configured to send guitar or line level signal, if you want to connect to rack units or something simlar. The thing seems to be built like a tank as well.
So far i have used it at home, for recording, for practice and jamming, and live, and it excells in all of those enviroments. I used it into a powered monitors, straight to PA, into amp fx return and with the 4cm where it also switched channels on my amp. It just works, and there is almost no screwing around with trying to make something work. Ive had it for a year now, and its, at least so far, the best piece of gear i ever had, beating Kemper hands down in all areas.
Now the lt version has some drawbacks, like the lack of scribble strips, only two instead of 4 fx loops, no external amp control, and some other things. I honestly could live without the aditional outputs, but the scribble strips were what really did it for me. If you can do without even all the bells and whisteles that the LT has, line6 just released HX Stomp, which is basicly a Helix in the size of 2 standard boss pedals with only 3 footswitches. Its pretty crazy they managed to squeeze it into such a small package, but apparently it uses the same modeling tech as the bigger brothers, so the sound is still there.
It would really help if you posted a picture. And you will get better answers in the guitar building subforum, some of those guys really know their stuff.
Anyways, its probably fixable, but as far as cracks in necks go, you cant really tell how bad it is until you dig in there and get a luthier to estimate how much its going to cost to fix. When I buy used guitars (out of about 15 guitars i had, only 3 were new ones), i never take the ones with mystery cracks. So unless you get a crazy good deal on it, that justifies a potentially high repair cost, i wouldnt do it.
Yeah, older songs are sometimes a bit sped up or slowed down when they were mixed. Or, before the age of cheap and precise tuners, the musicians would tune by ear, or with some shitty tuner that was like 1/8 of a step off from standard. Or maybe they didnt tune to 440hz. Who knows, but the older the record, the higher the chance of it happening. If i recall correctly, i had the same issues when i played along to For whom the bell tolls when i was starting out.
Also, if you are a new player, you might be pressing on the strings to hard or maybe you are bending the strings slightly.
OP, you can get an amazing used amp for such a budget in europe. A full sized, or at least the 50w 5150III head for example. Or you can get a new 6505 of thomann for that price as well. And actually id recommend something from the 5150/6505 family of amps, i think they are perfect for djent. You can also get a bunch of engls in europe for a decent budget, because they are cheaper than in the US i think. Actually around here the used market is saturated with them, and im sure you can snag a Savage or even an Invader, and those are a beast of an amp as well.
You are also going to need some sort of overdrive and a good noise gate, if you want to get that choppy djent sound.
jdgreat4 Its really hard to give any good feedback on a fully produced track. Compression, eq and reverb can hide a lot of imperfections in your singing, as well as time alinging and maybe even some autotune. Anyway from what i can gather from this track, you are mumbling. I know this is all the rage in the last years, where annunciation is deliberately bad, and everything sounds mumbled, but I hate it. Also, if your annunciation is bad, im willing to bet other things are of as well, you just cant hear it here because of the production. Anyway, besides that, the only thing i can pick up is that you start a word, and increase in intensity only after you start it, so it sounds kinda like "oooOOOCTopuss in the ssssSSEEEEeeeaaaa". I guess thats a stylistic choice just like the mumbling, but its not really something i like, at least not in such an ammount as you do it here.
I saw a video just recently, where Cradle of filth show their new live rig, and its literally just 2 mooer pedals, the 5150 preamp and the mooer Radar. They say thats all that the use for live shows nowdays. So yeah, mooer really stepped up the game with this pedals. Im probably going to get something like that as a backup for my Helix.
I had a JCA50 head a few years ago, and i like it. The fx loop is kinda weird since it wants to take line level signal for some weird reason, but most modern pedals can work in it just fine. Also you dont really have a clean channel, its always at least slightly crunchy. Didnt really bother me, but if you want to play a lot of cleans, look elsewhere. The hi gain channel worked fine for metal and hard rock. I mean, its nothing spectacular, but pretty good, to the point where id consider buying another of those heads as a backup or for any live playing actually, if i needed it. The only gripe i had with it was that it was ugly as sin
Depends on what you want to do really. I have been a vocalist/guitarist, just a vocalist and just a guitarist in bands. I have to say that when i was just a vocalist, yeah, it was easier to concentrate just on the vocals. And yes, i was able to jump around more than with a guitar, but thats not necesarily a good thing. And its easier to animate people when you have at least one free hand to do it with. But to be honest, it wasnt nearly as much fun. And it gets kinda awkward during the solos. I also think that bands with a singer/guitarist just look better on stage and have better stage presence overall. The jumping singer just bothers me most of the time (there are exceptions of course). And another thing, if you dont play guitar, you need to get another person to do it, and i always try to keep the number of people in a band down to a minimum, beucase its already hard enough to find 3 people you can work with. So yeah, play guitar as well.
So true, one tone from each amp and you have to enjoy THEIR settings
I do have a Bogner Rev 2 which sounds very similar to that clip I posted but I was thinking of selling that and copping the tones from the Kemper. TBH That would be the only way I could sell that amp and be happy about it.
I did the same when I sold my ENGL and got the kemper. I just got the profiles from the same engl. But it turned out it was still way more limiting than having the actual amp.
maddnotez I mean, with the kemper profiles, you are just going to be very limited in terms of different sounds you can get from it. If you want a kemper for that one specific sound, i think you are going to be dissapointed. Have you thought about getting some sort of a Bogner amp, if you cant find the mod or a modded jcm 800 anywhere?
diabolical How did you try this? Because a kemper trough a frfr sounds vastly different than an amp trough a cab that you have 1m away from you. You have to either run the kemper into a cab, or mic the amp up to get the same sounds.
Well jesus, I have to say this is the worst review I have yet to see. Sounds like a major pain in the ass with a horrible interface.
Not sure I am willing to go through all of that.
Quote by DarthV Bought mine when they were first available in Canada and it's the best piece of gear I've bought. It does have a rather steep learning curve (does some things ass backwards), but with the right profile/cab it sounds amazing. Since I'm mostly a home player, the low volume performance is much better than my tube amps. If I were to start over, the simplicity of the Helix might win me over.
I have been debating on this or a Helix for a while. Very hard choice, everyone I know that has a Helix loves it. I know the interface will be way better. The only thing that still makes me want the Kemper over the Helix are certain profiles like that Snorkle Mod I mentioned just sound amazing and I know the Helix wont have that sound.
Honestly, im much happier with the helix. I the hi gain 6505 sounds i can get from it rival anything that i got from the Kemper. So do Mesa sounds, or Plexi. I think the sound of the models in the helix is just as good as PAID kemper profiles. All you need is a set of impulses. But yeah, if you need a really specific sound of some osrt of butiqe amp, then the kemper is your only choice. But id be willing to say that the helix can get you so close to those sounds, that it really isnt worth it, at least for me.
I used one for a while. In studio and live, and at home. Lets get this out of the way: it sounds amazing. When you find a great profile, its magic. But getting to that level is a chore. You have to sift trough thousands of profiles to find the ones you really like. And the user interface on the thing really does everything it can to prevent you from doing so in a efficient and fast manner. The profiles browse knobs are also feel like they are going to break off if you just look at them wrong. If you load a bunch of custom cabs onto the unit, you have to delete them one by one. Boy, i wish i knew that before i loaded up about 150 cabs. If you want a flanger you scroll down to the flanger section in the menu, but then you want to try the next flanger, so you have to scroll all the way again. You have to use the kemper itself to create preformances, because if you do it in the RIg Manager, there is a really big chance it will screw up the existing ones. And while on the topic of rig manager, even loading and deleting profiles from the unit is a nightmare because its buggy as hell. I had to use a usb stick because it was just less stressful. The menu system is just annoying, and the screen responds slowly, so sometimes you dont even know if you saved changes or not. So yeah, the whole user experience is just crap.
The second thing is, the nature of the profiles themselves is kind of limiting. The profile only captures that exact sound of the amp and cab and microphone. If you want a different sound, you have to find a different profile. You can of course tweak the existing profiles as much as you want, but the more you do, the less "real" they sound. So you got to find a profile thats 95% the sound you want, and then tweak it just a bit. Thats why you have to sift trough thousands of them, to find one that suits you.
On the plus side, it sounds great if you have the willpower to go trough all of this, and it feel like an actual amp. I also had the powered version, so the fact that i could turn of the cab sim for just the monitor out and keep it on for the main outs, was great, since I could run direct into the mixer and still have my cab on stage for stage volume and feel. The effects sound good, at least to me, and once you have the performances setup, its great for live, because its easy to use and easy to setup. I used the fcb1010 controller, not the official one, and it worked perfectly. And if you have a really nice rig with some sort of butiqe or moded amp, and you want to profile your exact sound to take to the stage, the kemper is really the only thing that can do it.
Now, last year i decided I had enough, and i sold my kemper, and got an amp and the Line6 Helix. I honestly think its better. After you throw on some nice impulse responses, the whole thing sounds just as good as a kemper. I did a blind test, and nobody that i showed it to could really tell it apart from the kemper. And the user interface is just amazing. Its simple to use, feels robust, and has pretty much the same capabilities as the kemper. The only thing i miss is the built in poweramp, but all in all im just so much happier with it than the kemper, that i have zero regrets about selling it.
You can plug your laptop into anything that makes sound basicly. A powered FRFR speaker would do the trick. You can also turn of the cab simulation and plug into the fx loop of an actual amp. Or you can basicly go into any kind of sound system, that has an aux in, so for example if your friend has a stereo system, you can just run into that and jam.
Well the way I work is, I slowly accumulate a bunch of gear like cabs, pedals, amps, some guitars and some oshter knicknacks. And then after a while when I realize i really dont need all of it, I sell most of it, and just keep what i "need". I went from 3 amps, 2 cabs, 7 guitars and a decently sized pedalboard to a kemper with a 2x12 cab and like 4 guitars i think. Now im back to owning an amp, some pedals, 7 guitars and a Helix, and a bunch of microphones that ill probably never need again. I guess it takes about 2 years for my cycle to repeat, and everytime I do it, i loose money because obviously i cant sell off stuff for the price it was when it was new, and usually I dont sell EVERYTHING. If there is a particular piece i really really like, i keep it. Thats why my total number of guitars keeps increasing...
I just ran through a Diezel Herbert (180W) head that ran about $3500 all by itself at Sweetwater. Weighs 56 lbs. A retube will cost you $200 or so (KT77s). Very nice tube amp. If you want to run the whole Diezel thing, a footswitch will cost you another $330, a MIDI footswitch will cost you $500. A Diezel 4x12 cabinet (100 lbs) will handle around 240W and run about $1200.
I currently run a Helix (15 lbs, $1500 new) through a 1500W power amp (9 lbs, $300 new) into a 48 lb cabinet that will handle up to 900W ($1100 new) @ 8 ohms with frequency response down around 35-40Hz and up past 18Khz.
Hey man, im just curious, what power amp and cab do you use? I have a helix as well, and im transitioning from using a real amp again.