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Memorize the modes too. Each mode has a different pattern of major and minor chords up the scale, so each one makes basic progressions sound different. For example a I-IV-V in Ionion is all major chords, but shifting it to Dorian makes the I and V minor chords. After that you can just add other tones to the chord from there. Get familiar with what different chords sound like and train your ear to hear them, so when you write a basic chord progression you know how to add to each chord.

Start with degrees, pick something like I-IV-V... Anything.
Find a mode that gives you the mix of major and minor you like.
Build the chords from there and add the tones that give you the sounds you like for each.


Here's a cheat sheet for those modal patterns.

Ionian M m m M M m m
Dorian m m M M m m M
Phrygian m M M m m M m
Lydian M M m m M m m
Mixolydian M m m M m m M
Aeolian m m M m m M M
Locrian m M m m M M m


That's how I approach creating progressions.
I've played for about 10 years now and always been a finger style player, but now I'm finding that using a pick brings a lot more out of mod effects and so I'm learning to play with a pick.. but it's not the easiest transition. I find either I hold on so hard my hand cramps, or I hold the pick too loosely and it flies out. Also just in general my hand tends to lock as if I have no endurance.

Anyone have tips for getting used to this style? Building endurance and any proper technique I can be working on?
Genuinely? Youtube.

I recommend a guy named Scott with a channel called "Scott's Bass Lessons"

Edit: If you like what you find there, I HIGHLY advise checking out his site. Tons of great stuff for all levels.
Best advice I can give is to find a local trade in store and see if they have any of these you can try to make sure it's what you want.
This makes me a total hypocrite because I buy a lot of Chinese pedals online... BUT if you're going to be spending the money, try it out in a store first. Lie I said, look for them in a trade in store, of if they're new/common enough you could just go to a guitar center and try them new.

Also, and I'm not sure what people who have them think, but I really don't understand spending all that money on a tuner that will just take up space on your board. I've been using a headstock tuner for about a year now and it's great. Works perfectly and because of it's design you don't actually have to hear what you're doing so tuning on stage is a snap.

Welcome to the world of pedals! It's a lot of fun here (and noisy)
I'm a bassist so I posted in that thred first but since effects are typically more used in the guitar realm I thought I'd ask here as well.. Hope this is ok, been awhile since I've been active in the forums.


I'm finally getting the chance to build a pedalboard with all the effects I've wanted for awhile now. Wondering if anyone has any recommendations on a signal path.

Here's what I've got so far for the order:

IN ->
Sansamp Bass Driver DI
Joyo Voodoo Octave (Fuzz w/octave option)
Boss MT-2 (Distortion)
DOD Bass Compressor
Lyon Chorus
Tremolo
Flanger
Bass Whammy
105Q Wah
SourceAudio Orbital Modulator
S.A. Hot Hand Wah
DOD Digital Delay
-> AMP


One of the big reasons I'm asking is that the Sansamp is the source of by base tone, but the DI aspect makes it great for plugging into the soundboard or hooking it up to the PC to record.. So how much will it change things to put it at the end so I can DI all my effects. I've kept it at the front so far so that my core tone is running through everything. Not sure where to place it.

I'm also not sure where to put the more dynamic effects like the Wah and Whammy as well as both of the SourceAudio pedals.

Apart from that any suggestions and advice is welcome.

Thanks!
Nakedstrings.com

Seriously, you can get the same gauges as the strings you like and get 3 pairs for the same cost as one in most stores.

They last a good amount of time too.
Geddy Lee (reason I first picked up a bass)
Justin Chancellor (huge innovator and big inspiration)
P-Nut (great, fun player)
Hey everybody
I'm finally getting the chance to build a pedalboard with all the effects I've wanted for awhile now. Wondering if anyone has any recommendations on a signal path.

Here's what I've got so far for the order:

IN ->
Sansamp Bass Driver DI
Joyo Voodoo Octave (Fuzz w/octave option)
Boss MT-2 (Distortion)
DOD Bass Compressor
Lyon Chorus
Tremolo
Flanger
Bass Whammy
105Q Wah
SourceAudio Orbital Modulator
S.A. Hot Hand Wah
DOD Digital Delay
-> AMP


One of the big reasons I'm asking is that the Sansamp is the source of by base tone, but the DI aspect makes it great for plugging into the soundboard or hooking it up to the PC to record.. So how much will it change things to put it at the end so I can DI all my effects. I've kept it at the front so far so that my core tone is running through everything. Not sure where to place it.

I'm also not sure where to put the more dynamic effects like the Wah and Whammy as well as both of the SourceAudio pedals.

Apart from that any suggestions and advice is welcome.

Thanks!
Play out from the center you know and start to expand up and down the neck.

For example, instead of:
E|--------------------------1-4---|
B|---------------------1-4--------|
G|----------------1-3-------------|
D|-----------1-3------------------|
A|------1-3-----------------------|
E|-1-4----------------------------|

Try:
E|-------------------------------------------11-13------|
B|--------------------------------9-11-13--------------|
G|----------------------5-8-10--------------------------|
D|--------------3-6-8------------------------------------|
A|------1-3-6---------------------------------------------|
E|-1-4----------------------------------------------------|


Try things like that that will help you learn the scale all across the neck, and once you kind of have it, just start improvising with it over a backing track. All those shapes will start to come to you naturally and their be locked into your brain. You'll start seeing more options.

A more extreme option but one that helped me, is take tiny pieces of masking tape and mark all the notes of the scale in a key of your choice completely across every string. Then like before, improvise. Soon you won't need the markings (and the masking tape will come off clean and won't in any way harm your fretboard.

I'm convinced that the best way to learn scales and modes is by working them out in your own head and playing them in the context of music, not rep'ing scales. That said each player is different, so find what works for you.
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what if he actually is a future hitler and you could have stopped like the second holocaust but you didn't


What if he's so bad, his parents invent time travel and send him to the past to get rid of him and he HIS Hitler.
If you need it live, go with a Tech 21 Sans Amp Bass Driver DI. That thing is a beast. It can run about $200 new, but good luck finding one used.. people rarely if ever let go of those things. Geddy Lee used the rackmount version on this tour (2:25 to hear it real nice):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yES6W5DZ0SQ

And Justin Chancellor (Tool) has a version of it in his rig.
I want to try putting one of these in my bass, and I'm not sure how..

It says to just replace one knob but that seems like a terrible idea. I want to add the effect but I don't want to sacrifice tone control, so how would I add a new knob instead of replacing one?

I'm not sure why they didn't provide instructions.. quite annoying.

And I know the knob wasn't made for basses, but I still want to put it in. It's a bass I mod all the time for fun, and I want to test it.
Avoid Affinity but most Squiers are GREAT value and they are fun to mod if you have the time and know-how.
How long will it be before UG updates the front page? Last year in was still Christmas halfway through January lol
Do you rate articles based off the quality of the writing or the content within?

I personally rate them based off the quality of the writing because if I submit an article, I'm just spreading the information. I don't want to be penalized for peoples opinions of the content. Don't shoot the messenger!
Not necessarily your favorite musicians, but a group that you'd like to see form. Also, this isn't supposed to be realistic. Chances are none of these will happen (especially mine) but it's nice to wonder.


Mine would be what I call the "effects people" or the people that incorporate many different sounds.

Vocals - Maynard James Keenan (Tool, A Perfect Circle, Puscifer)
Guitar - Tom Morello (Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave, Nightwatchmen)
Bass - Justin Chancellor (Tool, Peach)
Drums - Neil Peart (Rush)

All these guys are really innovative in their own roles and I think they would have an incredibly unique sound. Morello and Chancellor alone would be awesome to hear. Maynard would
I'm 18 and I've played for over 4 years now. I'm a pretty open minded musician so I'm willing to explore different styles of music. I want to be in a band with passionate, driven musicians who play music for music's sake, not for the perks.

I also am a lyricist (though not a singer) and I am just as dedicated to that as I am my bass playing. I write both Christian and secular lyrics and I take pride in what I write, so you won't see any half-baked lyrics from me!

My main influences are:
Rush, 311, Muse, Tool, Badly Drawn Boy, Barenaked Ladies, Ben Folds, Incubus, Ke$ha, and Rush.

If you'd like to talk to me, don't hesitate to email!
Gilbertkitchens@gmail.com
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2112 wasn't written in a day, but most pop songs are written in under an hour. Keep that in mind.


<3
First of all, thanks for your service!

I'd ask the wife. See how she feels! IF she's fine with you helping a friend, then go for it, but if she'd rather you didn't then no worries.

I'm not saying to be her b****, just that if you're concerned about how it will go now that you have a wife and children, see what they would think about it.
Ok so... I'm not wanting an argument about why I don't like screaming, I'd just like an answer to the question.

What BTBAM songs have vocals that are mainly sung and not screamed? I love BTBAM's music, and when Tommy sings. He's got a great voice in my opinion, but I'm just not a fan of screaming.
Listen to the song a lot to drill the order and all into your head.

Then practice practice practice. It sucks at first, but the ore you do it, the easier it'll get to memorize
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is it really legal in the United States?

i know, stupid question, but it seems too good to be true


I know, it really does seem too good to be true, but yes, it's totally legal.
The sound WILL change a LOT. You'll have more of an upright jazzy tone because instead of metal on metal, the sound is coming from metal on wood, creating a much warmer tone.
The Dunlop Crybaby 105Q Bass Wah pedal has a great feature that allows the pedal to be activated simply by applying pressure to it. The problem (sometimes) is that when pressure is removed, it takes about a second for the effect to shut-off. This isn't always a problem, but it can be a hassle at times. Is there anyway to mod the pedal to remove that delay?
My bad... geez
My dad took me to see Rush back in 2007. All I had ever heard was that bass was easy, and I figured that if I could do that, and it was easy... Haha, little did I know...
If you're tuning down a lot, I suggest buying a Hipshot Bass Extender (Find one that matches your bass). Makes it a lot faster and more accurate.

Example:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=active&q=hipshot'&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=5212018864989103067&ei=H709Tef0EYSs8Ab2-OidCg&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEoQ8wIwBw#
I prefer Ernie Ball Super Slinkys, or Rotosound Swing66's, but it sounds more like a problem with the setup of the bass, than the stings themselves.
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Well, from what I've heard, it's better to use different amps o.O


They are
Who knows how many tours Eric has? Go see him. PFE will probably be around a while so you can just see them on the next go-round
I was just messing around, it's good work
"... brush my teeth with a bottle of jack..."

That's what the title made me think of
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-Bass-VAMP-Modeling-Preamp?sku=480692

This is worth about $110 new and the one I have is in almost new condition. I have the original box, the case, powercable, and the included foot-switch. It works perfectly and is just as good as new.

I'd consider any form of pedal, any recording gear, or anything really. I haven't been using it lately and I hate to see it sit there.
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+1... judging from the fact they also play out of nice-ass orange gear, i'll bet it's a Euro 5.


Yupp, looks like it
Shouldn't be. I use a P-bass and a J-bass and switch a lot and both feel natural. If you are having problems I suggest using the ESP more in practice, but if not, it then it's probably not hurting anything. You would notice if it was.
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Eh, I wasn't really bashing you or anything, it's just that The Killers have always sold out hockey arenas and been wildly popular here.


Well if you get the chance I recommend seeing them. They're weird, but they are one of those bands that can actually perform their songs better live.
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Really?

There's a Toronto band called Bravestation that I've really been getting into lately. Check them out.


In my humble opinion anyways