Quote by bv310
Hey Logz, when i'm just browsing the guitar songs tab, the number og the previous page disappears.

example: I'm on page 3, and the numbers on the bottom read 1 3 4 5 6 7 etc. Page 2 is gone, but page 3 still shows up.

btw, i'm using IE if that helps

Cheers Ill be workin on it shortly, but its a problem with my math and php operators It shouldnt take too long to fix
congrats guys, almost all of you got warnings and banned.

thanks for those who actually contributed sensibly to the thread.
lol. The accounts all run off the same program
Ill fix yours up today. Should be able to access it in a few hours.
I know which one your account is because your username is in your email address.
Ok, for the time being, i think it may be a problem with your internet browser. It allows me to login to your account fine with IE.

At the moment, ill do a little custom coding and remove the count-down timer from your account, which should stop you getting automatically logged out after 22 minutes.

If anyone else has this problem, please let me know.
Can you copy and paste the array data if you can please.

If the [start] and [exp] numbers are the exact same it will be a problem with the PHP program, if the [exp] number is bigger than the [start] number, it will be a problem with the javascript.
Cool. Theres a bit of tinkerin I need to do, so whenever your next on, can you:
1) Try to login
2) Tell me if you get logged out instantly
3) If you dont, is the countdown timer working
4) Also copy and paste the sme array information into here please (But remove the number to the right of "pin"
Ok, try it now, see if you still get redirected.
Where the timer WAS, there should be a load of random text like

exp => 10454934

or whatever, can you copy and paste that into here please
is it logging you out to or


And also, does the thing which says "You have ... left on this session" have any time on it? It should be 22 minutes when you first login
When you login, and click the "stop" button, does the URL have a part in it which looks something like :



Also, What browser are you using?
1) Yea, the bug with the page links seems to be a problem with my maths Ill work on it later today

2) Ill try a workaround of the popup and see if i can do anything about it

3) Thats pretty simple, ill do a quick edit later on today, wont take more than a minute.

4) Scales -> Login to "my development" click "add to list", click "add scale.
Ill work on making a better link for it, and adding a section on the admin pages

Thanks for the comment
I've still got to test it in a few different browsers, I dont think it works very good in opera or something, cant remember which one. But ill also test out loading times. Hopefully, it should be better than the previous version.
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Beginners Song Program Version 4.0

Hey guys!
I've finally finished working on the new version of the list! This, to me, is probably the best, as well as most advanced version of the program. It uses multiple features to create an interative experience and one that helps guitarists build up there skills.

Of corse, there may still be a few minor bugs, small things I've missed out, however, please post all these errors in this thread and ill address them as soon as I can.

Ok, So lets go over some of the features.

Visitor Features
  • Better URL! The new URL is Which is alot better than the previous URLs (which were long and hard to remember).
  • Better, cleaner design and layout. The new layout is designed to fit on your browser without the need to scroll down. Therefore, there are no longer any massive lists, no having to scroll down through 700 or so records to look for songs.
  • Recently Added List. The recently added list has been kept from the previous version, and should be working more efficiently now.
  • Leaderboard. In the previous version, the leaderboard had to be updated manually (mainly because it wasnt originally designed to have a leaderboard and therefore, needed SQL to manually count and store points. Now, whenever a song is submitted, the point is added.
  • Moderators. To provide some recognition to the users who help maintain the list, the "moderator" list has become default (no need to press a link to view users).
  • Ajax Options. Because some people may not like the AJAX features, you now have the ability to turn it off. The might help some users view the list and get around the site more faster.
  • Reporting feature This new feature allows you to report songs that are posted by advertisers, robots, and stupid visitors. These can then be brought to the attention faster of a moderator.

My Development
The "My Development" is a brand new feature introduced to this new version. Its gone a step further in guitar training, and has been fully integrated into the main songs list.
The "My Development" program allows you to create a list of songs, scales and lessons which you can use to learn new skills and songs on the guitar. This new sub program has alot of advanced features:
  • Adding Songs: To add a song to your development list, you need to search for a song on the main list. Once you've found one, click it and look towards the bottom of the page where it says Add To Plan. Click this, fill out the form and click Add.
    This will now be added to your development plan.
  • The "My Development" homepage. After logging in, you will be presented with your development list. On the left, you have your navigation menu, which allows you to access your list, add scales, change settings, and logout.
    Further below that you will see a red dashed box. This will display your overall progressed based on the information you provide about the songs in your list.
  • Editing a song You can edit songs on your list by clicking "Edit" next to the corrisponding song. This will bring up the edit form. On this form, you can change the title of the song, which section you want the song to go under (IE: easy, harder, challenging... You can create your own sections). One of the main things to point out is the Progress form. You can use this to pick out how far you are to learning the particular song / scale / lesson.
    Another point is the start and end dates. You can use these to construct a time scale of how long you want it to take to complete the learning of the song / scale / lesson. You can then use this tool to see if you are on track or not.

My Development - Signing up
To sign up: Its incredibly simple to signup. Ideally, all you need to provide an email address, although this isn't required.

Enter (or dont) an email email address into the box provided. Then click the "Create" button. This will instantly provide you with a pin number on the same page. This will be your account number, and to login, all you need to do is enter this number into the login box.

Warning: If you do not enter your email address, if you forget your pin, your development list will be lost.
Your email address will not be sold / given away / lost / displayed / etc to anyone. It will remain only on my server, and only very trusted, limited volunteers who must undergo blackbook checks on Ultimate-Guitar will have access to it.

Ajax Features
The new version utilizes more AJAX than any previous version. For those that dont know what AJAX is, here is a brief description.
AJAX stands for asychronous Javascript and XML. It is a programming language which communicates constantly with the server to provide rich, interactive content on the website.

In effect, it removed the need to constantly refresh your browser to load up new content.

This has been a minor feature since version 2 of the program, and has been fully integrated into version 4.

The new ajax features include:
  • Search Suggestions For those who have used iGoogle, whenever you type something into the search box, it automatically suggests search terms. This new version uses this technology to suggest artists / titles / usernames / tunings whenever you submit a song.
    These suggestions pop up in a small box below the input box. If you see the artist etc that you want to use, you simply need to click on the name of it, and it will automatically insert into into the input box (to save you typing it all in yourself).

  • Automatic status When you add a song, report a song, add a song to your plan, you will be able to view whether it was successfully accepted by the server or not, without having to refresh the page, or redirect the browser to another page.

  • Searching for songs The song search feature has undergone a major change. In previous versions of the site, everytime you entered a new character into the search box, it would automatically refresh the list. This created big loads of the server, and slowed down browsers. With the new version, it will only update the song list if you enter a space, or click the search button. This will improve loading times and reliability.

  • Displaying Songs Songs are now displayed in a page format instead of a huge list. there are 17 songs per page. This again, will make loading of song lists faster.

  • Default list When you click on "guitar songs", "bass songs" or "lessons" the entire list is displayed (paged) by default. To reduce this list, enter an artist / title etc.

Unfortunatly, this was not something I wanted to introduce. However, there has been a massive increase in visitors to the site in recent month, and therefore has increased the amount of bandwidth (and time spent building and maintaining the application). Therefore I have introduced advertising (by google).

However, If anyone would like to advertise on the site, such as selling guitars online, advertising your own website etc, you may do so, for the cost of £1 per day (payable through paypal). You can choose how many days you wish to post an advert.

Also, you may provide your own adverts / banners / towers etc, or I will be able to create a simple one for your. For more information, please PM me.

(also please click on adverts you are interested in as it will help me out with paying for the server )

Administration Tools
The new version has a more advanced administration panel. This new panel allows moderators to quickly, and much more easier than before find mallicious entries (posted by bots etc) and delete from the list.
Therefore, please dont post these types of songs, as they will be deleted promptly

Other than that, thats it!
I hope you enjoy the new program, as it took alot of time programming it and making sure it runs smoothly.

If you do find a bug, or something i've missed, please post it in this thread and ill try fix it as soon as possible.

If you would like to help out with the program, please either post in this thread, or PM me directly.
You will need to undergo Ultimate-Guitar Blackbook checks, so if you have been banned from Ultimate-Guitar in the past, please note, you probably wont be accepted.
If you get a PM back from me, then you have, if you dont, then you havent.

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The endorsement of Logz has convinced me to go see it.

Threadstarter. Either learn to spell, or pay a visit to the forum of the banned.
Guys, quit spamming, post properly, and please, at least try to spell correctly.

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Quote by BMGfan
Looks good,

But may I make a suggestion? Could you add a "browse songs" function? Maybe it's there and I missed it, but it would be nice to just look through the database.

If I knew what beginner song I wanted to play I just look for the tab on UG.

That being said your work on the project is MUCH appreciated and the new features work great!

Such as a "browse all" feature?
It was a feature on all of the previous version, i must have just forgot about implimenting it will work on it very soon
Yeah, I've designed it to be alot easier to view (IE no more scrolling down for long lists). Hopefully it should work.
Beginner Song Program 4.0

Before I start, I just want to say, this is not the completed version!
This is a 'beta' test of the AJAX side of it.

Basically, I need a few people to test out the new program, in your range of different browsers to ensure that the AJAX features of the new program function properly.

Some of you have already seen the new version, however, most have not, as it was sneekily hidden in a post.

There are several new features in this new version. The biggest includes a personal development program. This allows you to create a list of songs, scales and lessons which you can use to get better at the guitar, bass or theory.

Now, before I continue, there are limitations to this version.
This is just a beta test of the AJAX version. There are two versions of the website.
One for users with AJAX compatible browsers, and one for people who would prefer a non ajax version.

I have only just completed the AJAX version, which has been very tricky. I've quickly tested it out on firefox, chrome, safari, and opera, and extensivly tested it out in IE 7.0

It works beautifully in IE7, but need more help tracking bugs in other browsers.
I would also like to take the opportunity to get feedback on what additions you would like to see in it.

So, simply click the link below (or above). Test out all the new features, and then post here whether you like the new version or not, improvements, and bugs.

Remember! The non-ajax site isn't complete. It may work on some parts, but it wont work for it all, so be aware of that! Also, the "top users" and "Moderators" list isnt finished.

In a couple of weeks, ill be emptying the databases, so any development lists you make, will be deleted.

Thanks for your help!

  • A new URL to get to the program (alot easier too)
  • The site shouldnt have a vertical scroll bar, therefore its alot easier to view.
  • On the index page, most of the form elements have an autocomplete function. Type something into the boxes and see the popup-box.
  • The song list will only update if you enter a space " " or click the search button.
  • The song list is now split into pages, so it doesnt make the page a mile high.
  • The new development plan program
  • Log into the development program, go to the song list, click a song and click "add to plan". This will insert it into your development plan. (It will only work if you login).
  • Registration is instant, you only need your email address (or any random email address - You dont need to provide your real one).
  • You can add scales to your plan by clicking "add to list" on the development plan links list. (These aren't real scales at the moment, I couldnt be bothered to upload loads).
  • You can create your own custom difficulty levels, and also gradually learn it. This will be displayed as a percentage complete.
  • There is a red box on the left of the development plan, this will display your overall progress through the list and will automatically update.

Side Note:
Because the program is getting quite popular (its being advertised on other sites as well), and because its using AJAX, its got about half a million hits in the last 4 months. I have a temporary bandwidth limit on that site of 10GB, and its currently using 15% of that, therefore, google adverts may be placed on some sections of the site in the near future.
msuspartan, grow up. Check your emails.
Warnings for you all.
Its advertising and if you had read the rules, thread must contain a question. And your posting in a reported thread, plus flaming him for doing what was needed.
^ lol
This will have a special something added to it, which is slightly more than just tab searching
Thanks Rio
This version will have a special secret addition which hopefully will help new guitar players and developing guitar players alot. It'll probably be added after the new version goes live though, but it'll be worth the wait
^ Not really possible. that would require someone to go through all song entries and manually input a link URL to the best possible tab. Rather time consuming considering the amount of suggested songs.

I've completed the homepage. It heavily uses AJAX for live updating, however, in this version, it can be turned completely off.

This should help reduce loading times in certain browsers, however, if you so wish, you can use the ajax version, which has few new features for submitting songs.

If anyone would like to test it out, and give me some feedback, it'd be greatly appreciated.
AJAX is turned on as default. To turn it off, select "Do not use ajax" from the select box in the menu bar.
New URL too Easier to remember
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I guess that makes me a fucking idiot then, eh?? I couldn't believe Hamilton won. I'm near the point of depression at the moment - I was on the verge of crying when I saw him cross the line in 5th. Not happy, not happy at all. And that's putting it mildly.

Small consolation that we won the Constructors' championship, I suppose.

And its just a fucking race. He deserved it, end of. Why does massa deserve it any more than him?? they had equal points bar 1, both had amazing races, both had bad races. In the end, hamilton won.

If massa had won, Id be upset that hamilton lost, but I would at least acknowledge that he deserved it. Unlike alot of bitter people who cant see past the red on the end of their nose.

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Man i like never watch F1 but i watched the brazilian grand prix today and when the hamilton dude passed glock me and my dad both were like "wow thats fixed"

like he just pulled over, and its funny because they never showed any replays of it after.

just shut up. You know nothing.
Quote by sam b
Am I the only one who doesnt find that funny?.. in the slightest

Maybe because you have no sense of humor?

Hamilton deserved to win. The season is over more than 1 race. If he won the championship, its because he deserved to win.

Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking idiot.
^ Yeah, ive been working on the live search trying to make it faster. Im gonna try using pages to speed up the results, so instead of loading up all 600 odd records, it only loads up say 30. Should speed it up massively.

Another thing, instead of it searching per keystroke, its gonna search whenever a "space" character is entered, or the "search" button is pressed. That should cut down on some of the server resources too, and speed up in other browsers.
Working on the new version.
I've wrote up the specs and got a cool design being designed on photoshop

Its got alot of the same features, with a couple new ones as suggested by users in this thread.

Search results should load up alot faster too.

New version should be up within a couple weeks
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It does hurt :'(

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