Avenged Sevenfold Singer on Robb Flynn's Rant: 'I Agree on 'Sad But True' Thing'

"I have no ill will towards those guys," says singer M. Shadows on Flynn's copycat jokes.

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Singer M. Shadows of Avenged Sevenfold claims that even after Robb Flynn's recent series of A7X copycat jokes, there is no bad blood between the two metal acts.

Shadows even agreed on Machine Head frontman's "Sad But True" remarks, admitting the given Metallica tune was a clear inspiration for "This Means War" track.

As previously reported, Flynn posted his Top 10 jokes regarding the latest A7X record "Hail to the King," slyly accusing the band of copying the likes of Metallica, Megadeth and Guns N' Roses, but also stressing he is happy for the band's success.

"Actually, Chris Jericho sent it to me [Tuesday] morning," Shadows told 106.9 the Bear radio. "He's, like, 'Dude, look at this B.S.' [He was] going crazy. And I was, like, 'Ah, Chris, I love you.' But I read it, and I read it as a joke. I have met Robb on numerous occasions and he's always been cool to me. And I just read it as a joke."

The frontman then focused on the comments, "I really don't know what to say about it other than I agree with him on the 'Sad But True' thing that was obviously an inspiration for that song. Everything else, I kind of think he ... If it is a joke, it was kind of overboard, 'cause it doesn't make sense in my mind. But at the same time, he was saying it was a joke, so..."

He continued, "I have no ill will towards those guys. I've met Phil [Demmel] a couple of times; he's cool. Robb is cool. And I think the guy has the right to go make ... if it's really a joke, in his mind ... Some people might see it as being as an underhanded ... joke. But, to me, if he just wants to go in there and write whatever he wants, I think that's totally cool. Everyone has an opinion and everyone should be entitled to say whatever they want. So it's no skin off our backs."

After agreeing that all bands Flynn mentioned made a big impact on A7X's work and adding Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and Rolling Stones to the list, Shadows went on to explain the group's stance regarding "Hail to the King."

"I think when you take a record like this and the way metal has become very blast-beat, screamy-oriented, when you kind of take things back and go to a more classic-rock feel, you're gonna feel the similarities to what we were trying to do; we were trying to make an Avenged Sevenfold album from the early '90s and late '80s. It was just something that really intrigued us and interested us.

"And so, for me, I think all those bands have always been an influence - you can hear that on 'City of Evil.' And Metallica has, obviously, influenced every single band that picked up a guitar and plays metal. So, yeah, all those bands, plus all the old greats."

"Hail to the King" was released on August 27, topping charts in six countries, including US and UK.

So did Robb hit the nail in the head or went slightly overboard? And what's your opinion on the whole matter after Shadow's response? Let us know in the comments.

The photo is courtesy of elenaamerican.

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    I'm glad he took it well. Yeah, it sounds like SBT, but it's still an awesome track.
    Classy move by Shadows. There are so many musicians out there who would have taken Flynn's jokes out of context and went off in a rage of butthurt. Shadows read the blog for what it was, had a laugh, and even admitted that "SBT" was surely an influence on that track. Well done, Shads, well done.
    Not a fan of these guys at all, However I have to agree, class move, way to defuse a situation.
    Who'd of thought Chris Jericho was such a grass
    Bit of a dick move considering at the start and end of the blog Robb said it was just as a joke and he liked the album.
    Wow. I'm surprised to say this myself but, M Shadows, has just gotten a little respect from me. I never thought that would happen tbh lol sweet.
    Funny thing is that Dream Theater (and I am not trying to begin a hate post) play snippets of other bands within many of their own songs, paying tribute to some of their favorite bands, but it is forgivable because it is DT. Meanwhile, AX7 says that they actually used some songs as inspiration and then all hell breaks loose just because it is AX7 who did that. Such an violation to the laws of metal!...Hypocrisy much? Sad but true...
    The difference is DT (and almost everyone else) use bands such as Rush for inspiration of their music rather than blatantly copying songs. If DT wrote a song that sounded identical to Tom Sawyer, but they changed the chorus and key and a few notes of the riff they would get crucified just the same as A7x. And rightfully so. Inspiration is different than imitation.
    To say the whole song sounds identical to Sad But True is unjustified. Sure, the riff/verse is very similar (as you said), but beyond that it doesn't sound anything like it. Hardly an identical song.
    Didn't they get a lot of flac for copying Muse? Gamma Ray on the other hand, they seem to get away with just about anything.
    I'm glad it's all cool, my problem was that Rob Flynn's jokes just weren't that funny.
    I laughed pretty hard.
    really? they're like -The Situation at Donald Trump's Roast- level of awful. Actually, no, I kinda laughed at some of those. Flynn's are worse, good thing he makes pretty good music and not comedy.
    Good way to take it. 99% of the times I dismiss claims of plagiarism just out of hand. Music is never pure originality. The most original bands are the ones that tried to copy their favorite bands but did it badly, accidentally finding something new. I feel like that's also why many bands are perceived to get duller as they move on, because they're better at crafting the exact sound they want, which cuts out the mistakes that lead to innovation. All that said, when This Means War came on I was like "really guys?" At least it's only the verses, but it's such an obvious rip it distracts me, takes me out of the music. Which is actually fine by me because most of their new album is really boring to me. Mostly because nearly every song has the exact same drum part and the same sluggish tempo.
    I feel like I'm the only one who heard zero Megadeth influence on any track.
    I felt like Heritic has very strong "Symphony Of Destruction" vibe during the verses. The chorus almost reminds me of Seperate Ways though, I thought that was pretty hilarious.
    Irwin Navarro
    Why is A7X getting so much hate for sounding like Metallica, Megadeth, and GNR? They want to follow their footsteps and make it great in the metal scene. They want to be this generation's Metallica. At least they're not trying to be "cool" by wanting to sound like All Time Low or whatever "pop punk" band fangirls go crazy with,
    Because every time a band makes a song that even remotely sounds like Metallica every one flips their shit
    Its more interesting when people make music that sounds like themselves than when they make music that sounds like someone else
    Shadows just reaffirms why A7X is one of my favorite bands. They set out to make a throwback record and that's exactly what they did. I'd understand the criticism if each record sounded exactly the same but every one has a vastly different sound. Good to know there's no bad blood between them given both A7X and Machine Head are the top current bands (I think) in their respective genres.
    In other news, tumbleweed appearances skyrocket as none of Robb Flynn's jokes are even remotely funny.
    I know Rob said he was just kidding around, but I think that he might be a little jealous of A7X's success. I dont know why he would be though. MH has become a very respectable band and theyve had alot of success in the metal scene as well. That's just my take on the whole deal.
    Of course it sounds like Metallica. Metallica are one of Avenged Sevenfolds biggest influences. And with Jimmys passing they have lost a huge part of the Aveneged Sevenfolds writing process, so it is going to sound very different from 'typical' A7X without the guys having to write a style that may seem somewhat unnatural for their writing process. Being influened by metallica there new material is going to be very heavily influenced by metallica. Avenged Sevenfold are doing the best with the hand they have been given and they obviously must be proud of the material or they simply wouldnt put it out. I respect they are dealing with a situation they werent prepared for. All respect to Avenged Sevenfold
    I saw A7X in Baltimore earlier this week. Definitely one of the best shows I've seen and I've seen a lot. I'm not exactly A7X fan boy either.
    Album is serious stuff. Influenced by some of the greatest bands ever. Whats the problem!?.... Next up.... Alter Bridge Fortress!
    the way to avoid all of this would've been a cover album, instead of ripping off other bands. Anyone can imitate bands that are already successful, it takes talent to take another bands influence and make it your own.
    I would actually maybe try listening to A7x if they followed the path of trivium. In the sense of finding an original sound and stop trying to be the stereotypical metal band. As for now they suck horse wang!