Behemoth Frontman In Court For Desecrating Bible

Adam "Nergal" Darski, the frontman of Polish extreme metal band Behemoth, has found himself in court over an incident involving the tearing up of a bible onstage.

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Adam "Nergal" Darski, the frontman of Polish extreme metal band Behemoth, has found himself in court over an incident involving the tearing up of a bible onstage.

According to Blabbermouth.com, the singer attended a hearing at the District Court in Gdynia, Poland after tearing up a bible, calling it "a book of lies" and labelling the Catholic Church as "the most murderous cult on the planet." The incident took place at a Behemoth show in Gdynia back in 2007.

Darski, while giving evidence as a witness, claimed that his actions were not intended to hurt anyone and that he considered the act of ripping up the bible "an artistic metaphor":

"I am a free man, living I hope in a free country. Although I do not publicly recognize the principles outlined in the Bible or the Ten Commandments, that does not mean that I am not a decent and useful human being."

This is the second time that the band has come to court over this issue. While the case was originally dismissed in July of last year, the prosecution was granted an appeal which has seen the band return to court. TheAll-Polish Committee for Defense Against Sects is the body that has filed a suit against the group, accusing them of promoting Satanism.

After his court appearance, the frontman issued the following statement via Metal Blade Records: "I spent five hours in the court in Gdynia today. The case is back on track and there's still a few witnesses to be interviewed. It's way too early to give any further comment. I just hope the final verdict is gonna be positive for me. I have a feeling that I'm in this situation for right reasons and I'm not giving up. Cross fingers! The battle ain't over yet"

A video of the incident can be found at the following location:

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    Pagan_Poetry
    "Place your right hand on the bible. Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God?" "Well this is kind of ironic"
    James_Het_Rules
    Wow. Give the man a break. He just beat cancer, and now they're taking him to court for something he does on stage on a regular basis. Another example of why I hate religion. Too many people that have become pompous *****s about it. I hope some crazy black metal fans burn that court down.
    Glass Prisoner
    I had no idea you could be charged for this, let alone taken to court!?! This is the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard. I don't even like Behemoth but I hope the dude gets out okay.
    nobadnews
    emphaticleech wrote: nobadnews wrote: Its been shown and proven that the very high ups in the Catholic church are shuffling around preists and taking no steps to achieve justice when they ignore the law of the country they are in. They are just as guilty as the ones molesting the children for letting it happen. Alrighty. But burden of proof is on you, and I expect some sort of documented proof about the higher ups took NO steps for justice. Even though when the highly publicize slew of molestations was happening in the late 1990s, those priests were punished ... mainly fired. Again, I don't see how that makes ALL Catholics accountable for what the few are doing.
    You could use the arguement that all catholics are accountable because they give money to the church and the church uses this money to hid priests. I don't believe all catholics are responsible just the church itself because i think that people have good intentions about sending their money to the church and don't expect it to be used in this manner. Here is a link to news story about a letter written by then future pope stalling a trail for a child molestor. I could find more but this is all the time i have to spend on the computer today and i have to go back to work. Bye http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/09... -stalled-chi_n_532073.html
    cteez910
    Clayden82 wrote: What makes u think im from America. Im from England. Catholics are not true Christians because they believe in false teachings that are not from the Bible and they do not have any real love for Jesus in their hearts. If they do then that makes them a Christian, but you cannot be both. Jesus said in the Bible "You are either with me or against me" (Matthew 12:30)
    You realize Catholicism was first right? And also, Anglican is just reformed Catholicism...
    Clayden82
    fender--player1 wrote: all these comments bashing the Church are truly shocking. i cant believe this many people are so confused. i pray for you all
    Amen to that!!
    fender--player1
    all these comments bashing the Church are truly shocking. i cant believe this many people are so confused. i pray for you all
    Clayden82
    unnamedplayer wrote: Clayden82 wrote: Im fed up with people and bands confusing catholics and Christians, two different faiths. Don't blame Christianity for what catholics have done. And idiots like him calling the Bible a book of lies shows how much he actually knows about the Bible! Lol, you must be from America? Catholics re true Christians. The rest are just split off groups. Know your (Late Roman-Renaissance) history dude.
    What makes u think im from America. Im from England. Catholics are not true Christians because they believe in false teachings that are not from the Bible and they do not have any real love for Jesus in their hearts. If they do then that makes them a Christian, but you cannot be both. Jesus said in the Bible "You are either with me or against me" (Matthew 12:30)
    '93
    but hes still an ***** to do it...im not muslim or jew but i dont burn their teachings...the guys a total freak, just look at him. sure the catholic church isnt perfect (far from it, i personally disagree with many of its teachings) ut to do something like that is basically to insult millions of people. its one thing considering freedom of speech but fact is its not ok to do actions like that its descrimination. people tend to forget that its not only an act against the church its an act against all of its memeber, people that have nothing to do with the running of it
    georgebushguy79
    '93 wrote: meh hes pathetic and stupid...hjust trying to get some ar=ttentio by offending millions pf people
    That's EXACTLY what I thought. So many people on here believed organized religion is a terrible thing. It can be a good thing when what they do things right. But ripping a Bible in public like that?? Kudos to Poland for standing up for their beliefs!
    Clayden82
    If you're catholic you believe you do not have a direct line of commnication to God but "holy" men like the pope and priests do, there for you must talk through them to talk to god and tell him your sins. Mary and the pope are not gods to catholics. The belief that the bible (which is written by man) is the ultimate authority was not common well into the 16th and 17th century. [/quote] This does not come from the Bible at all, this is more false teaching that the catholics participate in. What the Bible says is that once you accept Christ as your Lord and saviour you are sinnles and you are fully reconciled to God. I never said muslims believe Jesus is God, thats why i said they believe in "a different Jesus" just like the Bible says. And if you knew the true ins and outs of the Bible then you wouldnt be saying that it is written by man
    swave75
    He should have tore up a phone book. That would have been impressive!!!
    Starskream0
    @bloodtrocuted93 lol i see your point and not to turn this into a debate forum but my experience with the Catholic church has been nothing but hypocracy. My catholic teachers called me a nazi because i was quiet in class. A NAZI lol wth. And to top that off the chapter we were reading in theology was titled Catholic:Open and respectful to all. But by all they mean only those who agree with them.
    emphaticleech
    nobadnews wrote: Its been shown and proven that the very high ups in the Catholic church are shuffling around preists and taking no steps to achieve justice when they ignore the law of the country they are in. They are just as guilty as the ones molesting the children for letting it happen.
    Alrighty. But burden of proof is on you, and I expect some sort of documented proof about the higher ups took NO steps for justice. Even though when the highly publicize slew of molestations was happening in the late 1990s, those priests were punished ... mainly fired. Again, I don't see how that makes ALL Catholics accountable for what the few are doing.
    nobadnews
    emphaticleech wrote: nobadnews wrote: The guy obviously did it to get a reaction, he got just what he was looking for. You can express your disapproval of a religion in so many perfectly reaosnable ways, ripping up the bible is pretty provocative and he can't honestly expect for it not to kick up a fuss. Don't get me wrong, the reaction to it is pretty bad too, but come on. I don't care if he's just got over an illness, the guy acted like a complete idiot. His behaviour was deliberately insulting to a large demographic of people, he can't expect nothing to come of it. Just feeling the need to mention that I'm an Atheist, because I know I'm opening myself up to lots of kiddy flaming here. I just know the right way to express my beliefs, as I'm sure lots of other people do. Or maybe he was trying to make a point? Catholics around the world are getting away with molesting little boys and are hidden by the church. And also, just because you offend a large group of people you should be prosecuted by the government and silenced? Just by saying you're an atheist offends people. Do you think they should be able to silence you too? Don't you think that's a generalization? Really, for the most part.. the only Catholics that got in heat for that were the priests in the church.. To say "Catholics all around the world are molesting children.." is petty, vulgar and extremely ill informed. Also, if you get offended by someone saying they're an Atheist.. you're a little soft skinned. Again, I think you're over generalizing.
    Its been shown and proven that the very high ups in the Catholic church are shuffling around preists and taking no steps to achieve justice when they ignore the law of the country they are in. They are just as guilty as the ones molesting the children for letting it happen.
    nightwng2000
    First of all, Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights should apply. Secondly, NO LAW should be created that FORCES any individual to respect that which they find deserves no respect. Being from the US, I'll use US references, but should anyone be FORCED, especially by law, to respect the likes of Fred Phelps and his hate group that bases their beliefs on religion? Should we be forced to respect the likes of Eric Rudolph, who used his religion to commit various murders? There are many specific individuals of the Muslim faith, again SPECIFIC, much as in other religions, that commit violent acts, even murder and torture, based on their religion. Including the likes of Osama Bin Laudin and his followers. Or various religious nations that execute individuals for certain acts, such as naming teddy bears or using the name of a religious icon in a manner other than what the religion allows? In the US, a few years ago, a bill was introduced in the North Carolina government to deal with abuse, specifically a type taking place in school call "bullying". Religious groups stepped forward and claimed that such laws violated their First Amendment Right to verbally, mentally, physically, and/or sexually abuse others, including children, because their religion was the foundation of that abuse. The bill stalled, but eventually passed. Should ANYONE be FORCED to respect those religions who actually believe that abuse of ANY kind is "moral"? And there are plenty of other examples, both in and out of the US. I'm guessing that the organization, "The All-Polish Committee for Defense Against Sects", is a private organization and not some division within the actual government? Either way, though, this organization seems smack in the business of violating Human and Civil Rights, much in the same way the individuals and organizations I previously mentioned are want to do. If anyone deserves to face legal reprocussions, especially criminal charges, it would be that organization, even more if the organization is tied to the government. Charges that, at the least, should stem from the Human and Civil Rights recognized by such documents as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
    unnamedplayer
    Clayden82 wrote: Im fed up with people and bands confusing catholics and Christians, two different faiths. Don't blame Christianity for what catholics have done. And idiots like him calling the Bible a book of lies shows how much he actually knows about the Bible!
    Lol, you must be from America? Catholics re true Christians. The rest are just split off groups. Know your (Late Roman-Renaissance) history dude.
    BurningTurkey
    whats wrong with promoting satan? i mean, he's not the idea role model, but whos to say that i cant idealize who i want to? it's not a "good" thing to do, ripping up a bible, but why should it be against the law? he's not hurting anyone. also, if you're offended by this, you probably shouldn't be at/watching a Behemoth show, right?
    Scorpyin
    emphaticleech wrote: Scorpyin wrote: xstatic44 wrote: jurnag12 wrote: nargoth wrote: I'm pretty sure Mao Xedung or Stalin killed more people than the Catholic church ever did. *cough* crusades *cough* You need to read up on your Crusades history to find out the source of all of the violence apparently. And for the fellow who commented on cults, please explain how Stalin and Chairman Mao didn't essentially procure cults themselves? And they were also atheist, so tell me how legitimate it is to state that religion alone is the violent cult? On an unrelated note, the sick bastard still has every right to be a sick bastard in this case. Shudder. uh, NO ONE said christianity was the ONLY violent cult out there or anything, the point was that it's not a bad thing to stand up to one of these 'murderous cults' and speak your mind about their actions... it's easy to judge someone, not so easy to listen to them apparently... But why rip up a book full of parables which teach good morals? Why not confront the Church themselves?
    He wanted the churches attention, and he got it! I'm glad people are finally starting to wake up. GOD IS LIFE, YOU WORSHIP THE SUN FOR CHRIST SAKES, jesus is just a rehashed story from, older religions.. probably dating all the way back to cavemen worshiping the sun. Catholics/Christians go look up Horus, an Egyptian God, and tell me if you notice ANY similarities...
    nobadnews
    Clayden82 wrote: nobadnews wrote: Sorry to tell you, Catholics are christians. Do they not believe in man named Jesus who was their christ? They fit the criteria of being christian. Not to mention they were the one of only two groups of christians for 1500 years. "A curse on him who is lax in doing the LORD's work! A curse on him who keeps his sword from bloodshed!" Jeremiah 48:10. You want more verses about christians killing people just respond Anyways back to the article. Adam Darski should have the right to express himself. Only cowards would try to silence someone because they disagree with that person. Dude the muslims believe in Jesus, but its what Christians and the Bible calls "a different Jesus", (2 Corinthians 11:14) In other words its false religion. A true Christian can see that catholism is the most blasphemous and idolatrous religion on the planet. If your a catholic then the Lord of your life is the pope, and you pray to Mary. If you are a Christian you have one saviour, one Lord, and one God, and his name is Jesus Christ
    Muslims do not believe in Jesus's divinity. In no way do muslims believe jesus is christ. If you're catholic you believe you do not have a direct line of commnication to God but "holy" men like the pope and priests do, there for you must talk through them to talk to god and tell him your sins. Mary and the pope are not gods to catholics. The belief that the bible (which is written by man) is the ultimate authority was not common well into the 16th and 17th century.
    Orion999
    Eirien wrote: Well, he's right; the Catholic Church is the most murderous cult to ever have existed on the planet. I wouldn't call the bible a book of lies though. It's a story book and some people can take something positive from those stories. Regardless of weather he's right or not there's a basic human right called freedom of speech and it should definately cover this. This case is a joke and it's insulting to the tax payers of Poland to be paying to protect a religion that gets offended waaay too easily.
    Do you ever stop to think before you speak, or do you just regurgitate liberal propaganda automatically? Catholic church is the most murderous? Have you heard of Islam? Have you heard of Atheism? Paganism? Try reading history. You may also want to think about the fact that the Catholic Church virtually single-handedly preserved western culture after the fall of the Roman Empire. You can thank them for the little things like knowledge of the ancient world, writing, architecture, engineering, etc. All of which would have been lost without the church. Second, never mind the Catholic church, I love the hypocrisy of these "freedom fighters" it's such nonsense. Explain to me how you reconcile all of the demonic imagery, all things evil, etc., that these bands use and then they point the finger at the Catholic Church. I'm confused? Are you really bad-ass satan worshipers? Or are you using occult imagery as a gimmick. Are you truly hypocrites in that you worship evil forces and then turn around and act like you're standing up for rights? Here's the more likely scenario: you still have a juvenile sense of dark imagery as "cool" so you don the silly makeup and spikes in an effort to look intimidating. Meanwhile you don't even realize that every aspect of your image and persona is borrowed from the Judeo-Christian mythos, which you claim to be rallying against. Seems to me you're just another example of an uneducated moron. Otherwise you might realize that even the name of your band originated within the book you recently tore up on stage. To mock it, is to mock yourself. It's no different than hypocrisy of pro-life zealots killing abortion doctors.
    arnolddrummer
    if he got up on stage and ripped up Superfudge people wouldn't say shit, same deal, bible's just another book but more popular.
    peachesenregali
    nargoth wrote: I'm pretty sure Mao Xedung or Stalin killed more people than the Catholic church ever did.
    You'd be surprised...
    nnb
    what I don't get is if this really part of their live act, then was he really ripping up a bible? or just some random stack of paper? Now onto more serious matters, if he just survived cancer then thats because god has a plan for him! (well no..but) So maybe his plan was for him to rip up the bible and make everyone aware of the BS that is the bible. I admite I am not the most informed person when it comes to religion, but how can so many people believe a book who people say is the word of god, when the whole thing is "according to" someone else?
    Clayden82
    cteez910 wrote: Clayden82 wrote: What makes u think im from America. Im from England. Catholics are not true Christians because they believe in false teachings that are not from the Bible and they do not have any real love for Jesus in their hearts. If they do then that makes them a Christian, but you cannot be both. Jesus said in the Bible "You are either with me or against me" (Matthew 12:30) You realize Catholicism was first right? And also, Anglican is just reformed Catholicism...
    Dunno where you've heard that dude but the catholic teachings came hundreds of years after the days of Jesus. Catholism is nothing more than false Christianity so how can the false version come along before the real thing. And I am not anglican, a true Christian has no denomination, I am just a disciple of Jesus Christ. There is alot of false Christians going to be hearing a certain verse one day from Jesus: "They will say, Lord Lord, didn't we do wonderful things all in your name? And Jesus replies:" I never knew you!! get away from me!" (Matthew 7:22-23) These are the ones who dont have any true love for Jesus in their hearts and who turn to false idols (for example; the pope)
    Phantasmasaurus
    emphaticleech wrote: Phantasmasaurus wrote: Being free of religion does not make someone rational. Being rational makes someone free of religion. If anything, the type of authoritarian dogma used to justify these political ideologies is virtually indistinguishable from religion. I don't see how being religious makes one a prisoner. There are such things as enlightenment. And people CAN get it through religion and faith.
    Well, 1.) It depends how you define "religion". Personally, I think the only really clear and practical definition of religion is either faith-based philosophy(which in my opinion is tantamount to nothing more than an abstraction, i.e. believing in something without having reason to believe in it) OR it can be defined loosely as following a set of rules, which is by no means a bad thing. No matter what you believe in, there are always rules. Some kind of order is inescapable, unless you're completely insane, or something of that sort. 2.) "Freedom" is kind of a relative thing in this sense. It's really just a case of giving up one thing for another. I think for many people, religion is a band-aid that they put on a wound, to cope with the pain of being human. People have such an immense tendency to think the grass is always greener on the other side of the hill, which is why it's such a prominent, stereotypical thing for people who have lived full lives, who are in their 40-50s to look back on all the debauchery in their lives, alcoholism, promiscuity, abortions, etc. and feel such a strong psychological compulsion to try to wipe the slate clean, and to they will cling to the first ideology they feel can justify forgetting, even denying and covering up their own pasts. The downside of that is that, as someone who spent 15 years in private religious institutions can tell you, many of these people become very reactionary, and tend to resort to authoritarian ways of governing, parenting, administrating, etc. that are far from conducive to critical thinking and intellectual honesty. And essentially, the people who are raised into the furthest extreme of this way of thinking(which is way more than you know), are basically taught that there is no point in understanding anything, because at the end of the day, it's all just magic, as well as the questionable view that all human beings deserve to burn in hell for eternity... But I digress. I'm really not here to convince you that religion is bad. You can go on thinking as you like My point was merely that the argument he made is fallacious, because the position of atheists/rationalists is that religion is a form of irrationalism, not that it is the only form of irrationalism.
    EpiExplorer
    emphaticleech wrote: arunawayslave wrote: Metal_Mesh wrote: Meanwhile in Poland.... No, but seriously this is just ****in' ridiculous. Problem, freedom of speech? Religion is cancer, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just deluding themselves. It teaches people to hate, it teaches people to feel shame, to feel guilty, to shame others and judge others. Roman 13:9 "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. " Do not to others what thou wouldn't not wish be done to thyself: Forgive injuries. Forgive thy enemy, be reconciled to him, give him assistance, invoke God in his behalf." Matthew 7:1 (if memory serves me correctly) "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: / Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again." ....cut right through your bullshit, eh?
    Just to use this particular quote cuz... Okay, in the end, its just your crap verses our crap, so its all crap, Nergal doesn't even need to rip a bible up for anyone to realise it. STOP FIGHTING OVER WHO'S ANSWER TO THE UNIVERSE BEATS WHOS, IT DOES NOT MATTER, IF THEY ARE BOTH MADE BY HUMANS, THEN THEY ARE BOTH EQUALLY FLAWED, STUPID, BELLIGERENT AND POINTLESS. The dude just got over cancer, at least have some restraint.
    emphaticleech
    nobadnews wrote: emphaticleech wrote: nobadnews wrote: Its been shown and proven that the very high ups in the Catholic church are shuffling around preists and taking no steps to achieve justice when they ignore the law of the country they are in. They are just as guilty as the ones molesting the children for letting it happen. Alrighty. But burden of proof is on you, and I expect some sort of documented proof about the higher ups took NO steps for justice. Even though when the highly publicize slew of molestations was happening in the late 1990s, those priests were punished ... mainly fired. Again, I don't see how that makes ALL Catholics accountable for what the few are doing. You could use the arguement that all catholics are accountable because they give money to the church and the church uses this money to hid priests. I don't believe all catholics are responsible just the church itself because i think that people have good intentions about sending their money to the church and don't expect it to be used in this manner. Here is a link to news story about a letter written by then future pope stalling a trail for a child molestor. I could find more but this is all the time i have to spend on the computer today and i have to go back to work. Bye http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/09... -stalled-chi_n_532073.html
    LOL! Huffington post. I was hoping for something ...credible, but if you actually read the article it simply said Ratzinger wanted to be judiciary about it and look over the facts first. He still gave the priest probation, and as soon as the probation was over... defrocked him. I see no shuffling here. And if you want to use that backwards ass logic, you would blame the millions of Catholics halfway across the world that gave to THEIR churches.. also halfway around the world from the offending church... for the indiscretion of the few? Puh-lease. Even if I weren't Christian, I would find your logic to be abhorrent.
    emphaticleech
    Phantasmasaurus wrote: Being free of religion does not make someone rational. Being rational makes someone free of religion. If anything, the type of authoritarian dogma used to justify these political ideologies is virtually indistinguishable from religion.
    I don't see how being religious makes one a prisoner. There are such things as enlightenment. And people CAN get it through religion and faith.
    Phantasmasaurus
    Anyways, this whole case is ludicrous. Assuming he bought or obtained the Bible through legal means, it's his piece of property and he can do whatever he wants with it.
    Imptheshrimp
    Please take this lightly as it is just a joke but I laughed at the irony of the
    Committee for Defense Against Sects
    suing them. Also, again with all due respect, this
    Zeletros wrote: Bible isn't a book of lies ,though , more of a fantasy novel for people who aren't christian
    Phantasmasaurus
    nargoth wrote: I'm pretty sure Mao Xedung or Stalin killed more people than the Catholic church ever did.
    /Facepalm @ seeing this argument over and over again. Being free of religion does not make someone rational. Being rational makes someone free of religion. If anything, the type of authoritarian dogma used to justify these political ideologies is virtually indistinguishable from religion.
    emphaticleech
    Scorpyin wrote: emphaticleech wrote: Scorpyin wrote: xstatic44 wrote: jurnag12 wrote: nargoth wrote: I'm pretty sure Mao Xedung or Stalin killed more people than the Catholic church ever did. *cough* crusades *cough* You need to read up on your Crusades history to find out the source of all of the violence apparently. And for the fellow who commented on cults, please explain how Stalin and Chairman Mao didn't essentially procure cults themselves? And they were also atheist, so tell me how legitimate it is to state that religion alone is the violent cult? On an unrelated note, the sick bastard still has every right to be a sick bastard in this case. Shudder. uh, NO ONE said christianity was the ONLY violent cult out there or anything, the point was that it's not a bad thing to stand up to one of these 'murderous cults' and speak your mind about their actions... it's easy to judge someone, not so easy to listen to them apparently... But why rip up a book full of parables which teach good morals? Why not confront the Church themselves? He wanted the churches attention, and he got it! I'm glad people are finally starting to wake up. GOD IS LIFE, YOU WORSHIP THE SUN FOR CHRIST SAKES, jesus is just a rehashed story from, older religions.. probably dating all the way back to cavemen worshiping the sun. Catholics/Christians go look up Horus, an Egyptian God, and tell me if you notice ANY similarities...
    Uhm. I think you're very confused. Jesus never had a boat race with anyone. That, and the savior in the Egyptian mythologies was Shed, not Horus.. and even then, Shed's story is actually completely different from Jesus'. The story of Jesus is actually one of the few things in the Bible that WASN'T taken from other mythologies. Well, except for the Savior aspect. But sure, you can pick at semantics and argue Noah's Ark was simply a re-telling of an old Greek mythos about when Zeus flooded the Earth from Olympus. But that's just it. The Bible, to me, is a book of parables... tales to inspire and teach morals. Much like the works of Vigil and Homer.
    Starskream0
    This is just weak. The fact that the Catholic Church has nothing better to do is sad. What happened to world hunger and poverty and all that other stuff. But instead they want to use their time to attempt to trample the rights of a man who is differant then them. If there is a god he probly hates most Catholics today. I for one am no stranger to the fact that people exclude those who are differant purely on the basis that they believe if your differant your wrong. Lol wtf were the guys that wrote the bible thinking is all I can say.
    Clayden82
    brandon54 wrote: im christian but REALLY!??! im mean the bible was still written by man...
    Dude if you really think this then you either know nothing about the Bible or you are just not a Christian. If you knew the slightest thing about the Bible then you would know full well that it is humanly impossible for man to have written this book. Read the following passages: 2 Timothy 3:16 Galatians 1:11-12 2 Peter 1:20-21 I pray that Jesus will open your eyes
    Phantasmasaurus
    Also, the whole concept of "political correctness" just falls apart in this context. Who is going to be "offended" by him ripping up a Bible? Are there any Christians going to some Behemoth show in Poland, and if so, why? I imagine the majority of people there must share a somewhat similar mindset to the band. Isn't the idea that they shouldn't be allowed to tear up a Bible "offensive" to the majority of the people there? Stupid logic is stupid.
    ETHANEVIL
    I didn't know you could get busted.for that. to think I always wanted to do that but now.....
    MrPajamaShark
    I'm just a tad curious... was that an actual Bible? Was it just a book that had the cover of a Bible?
    mrRICHARD911
    MetalFreakje wrote: x0vincent0x wrote: i live in Holland, and a couple of months ago it was discoverd that thousands of children were raped by catholic priests. And now not even 1 percent of those priests had to go to court FOR RAPING CHILDREN!!! (i dont like behemoth's music, but when i think about these things i start listening to them) totally agree men, i live in holland to and heard pretty much about it. for me it's okay if someone believes in things, but don't try to sell it to me or thinking they are above the law
    it's okay for someone to believe in things. freedom of speech is good as long as it it not violent, cuz it might hurt people and lead to a lot of problems
    iceh88
    pretty sure that radical militant factions of islam have killed more people than the catholic church.
    Total Hate
    We are human,we like arguments,many of us like wars,many like raping children,many like singing about raping virgins and riping out their eyes.That is just the way we roll Behemoth has some nice albums And humans are full of sh*t my friends,ful of sh*t..Ive actualy noticed some realy smart comments in my opinion but those people are again stupid for getting into this fight and taking it for real...nothing is just black or just white and with that i rest my hands becouse someone will also think what i have said is a complete f***** BS
    jem77gmc
    i am a christian, (making sure not to be confused with a catholic) but i dont think he deserves to go to court at all, the book itself is just a book, who cares if he destroys one, the courts need to get the sticks out of their arses
    MetalFreakje
    x0vincent0x wrote: i live in Holland, and a couple of months ago it was discoverd that thousands of children were raped by catholic priests. And now not even 1 percent of those priests had to go to court FOR RAPING CHILDREN!!! (i dont like behemoth's music, but when i think about these things i start listening to them)
    totally agree men, i live in holland to and heard pretty much about it. for me it's okay if someone believes in things, but don't try to sell it to me or thinking they are above the law
    howamidriving?
    maybe if he just made an intelligent argument stating the downfalls of relgion instead of ripping up the bible like some kind of 14 year-old that thinks he's being super sweet he wouldnt be in court. seriously, stupid shit like this is just so dumb and overly extreme it makes me laugh
    pitimor
    Yep, I live in Poland and freedom of speech regarding religion here is purely theoretical. Practically... you see what happens. I like my country but this is one of the things I dislike VERY much.
    PuddleJumper11
    I don't know about Poland's laws, but it seems like he should be allowed to do that... but at the same time, I can't see why he has to. They're a band. Play music. I don't go to concerts to hear about some guys views on religion, I go to hear music.
    emphaticleech
    TrashVampire666 wrote: most evylyst kvlt blakkk metaal news piece that ug ever had. more seriously though this is stupid. religion is outdated, people should stop defending it...
    Going against religion is older than religion itself. Thereby being even MORE outdated. People should stop complaining about the defending.