Behemoth Frontman: 'Today's Extreme Metal Is Dull, Boring Masturbation'

"It's all about making noise, and I don't see point in that," Nergal explains.

Behemoth Frontman: 'Today's Extreme Metal Is Dull, Boring Masturbation'
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Behemoth frontman Nergal gave modern extreme metal bands quite a ripping, calling their work "dull, boring masturbation."

Chatting with Andrew Epstein, the frontman was initially asked about the band's place on today's extreme metal scene.

"Today's extreme metal scene is all about making a lot of noise and just playing millions of riffs within one song, and I don't really see the point in doing that. You know what I mean?" Nergal replied.

"To me, it's masturbation, it's dull, it's boring, it's flat at the end of the day," he continued (via Blabbermouth). "When you listen to those kinds of records, it doesn't [do anything for] me at all. I grew up listening to extreme metal bands like Slayer, even Blasphemy, the most extreme bands ... or Mayhem ...

"They would still make songs, you know what I mean? There was a place for a chorus, a place for verses, a lead ... And we keep that formula going. Even though our music is different, we are in a different place, we still compose songs, and that's what people dig after all.

"I mean, the things that have hooks and that are memorable, I'm not doing this to attract people, I'm doing it to attract myself, because I grew up that way, I was raised with that kind of music, and I appreciate it in other bands, so I definitely wanna do it the same in Behemoth," the musician concluded.

The latest Behemoth studio effort, "The Satanist," saw its release on February 3 via Nuclear Blast Records, landing at No. 34 on the US Billboard 200 chart.

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    KerryKing01
    Yay he prased da kerry king prject! 2 bad dey crap all over his band!
    sdbrown89
    every day you log into this and spout the same old overused joke on some news story.. am i the only one that thinks kerryking01's jokes have been run into the ground for awhile?
    Jazzmandtk
    There's something endearing about seeing his face popup in every article. And his grammar, of course
    Macabre_Turtle
    I like how nearly everything in metal is described as being either try hard chugga chugga powerchord breakdown crap or as tryhard millions riffs and time signatures a minute overly complicated taps and sweeps for no reason crap. Yup. Nothing sitting in between that, apparently.
    dethinatedoom
    It's ironic that this is how I feel about Behemoth.
    KerNeL_KLuTcH
    because it's not like the satanist wasn't one of the few extreme metal albums of modern times that the vocals didn't sound like someone getting raped with knife.
    beojiko
    Yeah, you should probably listen to more than one album before making a generalization like that.
    Second Rate
    you're not alone, a lot of people (myself included) feel that way about Behemoth. Behemoth ceased being interesting years ago. In fact, most of these old dinosaurs that have been coming out lately with these "back in my day" rants ceased doing anything worth a damn years ago.
    mitchy86
    he must be masturbating wrong because it's certainly not those things.
    LeperDog
    Maybe this is masturbation to him because he's so extreme he can only masturbate furiously.
    BlackLabel5150
    I dig Behemoth. I read a few things awhile back where Nergal always tries to push his playing forward whether its some new exotic scale or arpeggio or what not on every new album. If you haven't heard the Satanist yet go check it out, its a pretty smokin album.
    GuitardudeDK
    Every single metal guy has been saying this lately. It's the old guys telling the young kids about the days when music was music. It's very subjective.
    The Virtuoso
    Most of you wankers who are agreeing with Nergal do not know shit about modern metal, which is why you, and Nergal, are wankers.
    Megadeth2011
    I can see where he's coming from. While I don't necessarily agree with his statement, a lot of the popular metal bands now do sound very similar. A lot of it is an overproduced sweepfest solo for 7 minutes in a strange time signature. Animals as Leaders and Periphery both have some great musicians and are very talented, but they're perfect examples of bands that bore me to death.
    crazysam23_Atax
    And the issue is...you're all judging JUST based on popular bands. The popular metal bands are very, very much...surface bands. They're not bad bands, but they mainly act as intros to metal. The good metal (new or old) tends to be the stuff you discover as you dig deeper into the genre.
    TheLiberation
    While I should have stopped reading at "overproduced", Periphery is the exact perfect example of a band that combines technicality with good songwriting, and they have ****tons of songs which are catchy as hell in addition to being complicated. But yeah, I should always stop reading at "overproduced".
    kcmoon5150
    Stop being a back-in-my-day dickbag
    N7Crazy
    Person here who is currently playing in a metal band and living in the days that will someday be "the days": I completely agree with him. I see too many bands focusing purely on writing extreme math-metal which they try to play as fast as they can. It goes from being metal to just being a blur of notes and beats which completely impossible to headbang properly to (yeah, I know it sounds strange, but I mean it literally when I say "blur of notes and beats"). It's has come to the point that when local metal band is playing a gig in town, and another generic acoustic guitar singer is playing in the local pub, I'm going to the pub - There the beer is cheap, there's usually good company, and I don't have to deal with bloody 13 year olds trying to headbang but looking instead like they're having a seizure, old metalheads telling me again and a-****ing-gain with 2 minute intervals how they don't like this new wave of metal bands, and the mandatory drunk 30-year old skinhead crawling up on stage and puking on the drummer.
    crazysam23_Atax
    I'm so sick of the "old guys" trying to tell the new guys that new music isn't extreme. I can get on bandcamp and find 5 metal bands in 5 minutes that are just as extreme (if not more so) as the "old guys". It's like, because all they see is the surface band, guys like Nergal think everything is generic and boring these days. Wake up, man!
    yoof
    He obviously didn't hear about Between the Buried and me
    Dokkie
    I think Nergal knows what he is talking about here. He is right, most metalbands today are more busy being extreme and brutal only for the matter of that. - They forgot the music. He is not pointing out ALL bands. - I believe Between the Buried and me is a respected band
    Reevo
    Dokkie got it. People seem to be too focused on writing these insanely fast and technical riffs to step back and write something that is rather simple and melodic that fits to the music itself. 2 of my best mates have started a band, and thats what they seem to be very focused on deathcore growls, heavy breakdowns, and extremely technical guitar / drum work, but alot of the time, it just sounds like so many other bands out there, nothing unique, and heavy for the sake of being BROOTAL Personally, i enjoy writing music similar to Katatonias last 4 albums which are doom / gloom metal, because of the atmosphere created with the music itself
    Absurder22
    Except, that's not what he's talking about... He says they try to fit 100 riffs in one song and doing super noisey solos, so I think this is an obvious jab at tech-death, which I would agree with him on, but to pigeonhole all of extreme metal as such is dumb. I also find it funny that he uses masterbatng since I see the word blasterbating applied to Behemoth often, and it's pretty true for the Satanica and onward stufff...
    MetalRock4ever
    I'm glad that he has actually put out an album which supports his argument, rather than being a hypocrite. The Satanist was a very good album, well received, so he can talk about it, unlike other musicians who say something which contradicts their work (look at what Kasabian are talking about right now). Though, he's touching upon personal preferences, which is always going to be a difficult topic to win. Sure, there are examples of dull metal bands, but there are some great bands out there.
    dethinatedoom
    btbam is amazing, although they aren't extreme metal
    vppark2
    Define what 'extreme' metal is then.
    aderptoremember
    traditionally, black, death, thrash, and doom metal progressive metal is rarely as abrasive and 'extreme' (in aesthetic or composition) as bands falling in those genres
    crazysam23_Atax
    I guess you've never listened to BTBAM then. Because abrasive is a part of their sound; though, it wasn't as emphasized on the last 2 albums.
    telephonebear
    harsh vocals are used a lot but i doubt i would say extreme
    qrEE
    blast beats, high tempos, shred guitar, death metal vocals, crazy time signatures... I would say extreme no doubt.
    qrEE
    FYI Progressive Metal is not a distinct genre. For those who haven't got the memo, "Progressive" only refers to a structure, whereas Death Metal, Thrash Metal, etc, refer to a sound. Between the Buried and Me is Progressive Death Metal. If you're "Progressive Metal" then you're actually "Progressive Heavy Metal", which means clean vocals through and through like Queensryche or Dream Theater. BTBAM has the harsh vocals of Death Metal and blast beats and so on, so they are Death Metal, and also Progressive, thus Progressive Death Metal. They've even referred to themselves as Progressive Death Metal so there's no debate.
    crazysam23_Atax
    Um...no, "Progressive Metal" is just a catch-all tag, really. And earlier BTBAM is closer to Deathcore. Later, BTBAM is just regular Prog Metal. Also, what a band calls themselves means very little.
    N7Crazy
    FUCK THE BANDS VIEW, I DECIDE WHAT THEY ARE, AND NOW THEY BE POLKA! NOW EVERYBODY DANCE, DRINK VODKA, AND BE HAPPY!