Billy Corgan Hints That Smashing Pumpkins Could Be Over If 'Oceania' Fails

Smashing Pumpkins' Billy Corgan has revealed that he feels like the band's new album 'Oceania' could make or break them.

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The band, who release their ninth studio album later this year after releasing single tracks online as part of their 'Teargarden Of Kaleidoscope', said the success of the album will shape their future together. Speaking to Billboard, Corgan said: ''If we're able to get that sense that something is happening again and get people to rally behind us a bit, I think the next three, four years will be very interesting for the band. I think if ['Oceania'] basically hits the same wall a lot of the other stuff has hit, we're going to have to step back and really evaluate where we're going, because it's a tremendous amount of energy to put out to just feel like you're throwing a pebble in the ocean." Smashing Pumpkins have announced details of a UK tour, which is due to take place in November. The tour also includes two gigs at London's Brixton Academy on November 15 and 16, and will conclude at the O2 Academy in Birmingham on November 19. Tickets are on sale now For more details and to buy The Smashing Pumpkins tickets, check out Gigwise Gig Tickets. Thanks for the report to gigwise.com

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    kerokero
    Billy Corgan is a wonder. The perfect example of an artist who is always changing, and doesn't compromise their vision for sales. But as a result, he's lost a big part of his fan base. I think up-and-coming bands should use the Pumpkins as a good example of how cutthroat the music industry is. Corgan wrote some timeless songs during the 90's, amassed a huge following, but decided to deviate from that recipe and write the music he wanted to write at the time. As a result, everyone who once loved the SP just....left. And even now, the new music (with some real gems scattered throughout, however) just doesn't cut it. Its plain and simple bad. The pumpkins have been reduced to the standing of less than an indie band , when they could have been selling out stadiums time-and-again. I always wish the best to Billy. But he hasn't made some good career choices. it was a fair trade-off that he saw coming though. I hope Oceania brings his group back o its former glory.
    Pagan_Poetry
    ^exactly. When people use the excuse "oh but the original band's not there so I don't want to listen to them anymore", Corgan wrote most of the music. The only key member that really mattered apart from Billy was Jimmy, and it's a shame he's gone, but it's honestly Billy's band. I hate to feed his ego, but it's true. It's been his brainchild from the start. He just needed the musicians to keep up with him. His radical changes were something his band members obviously didn't agree with and were a part of the reason why they can't stand each other (amongst other things). Billy's got an ego the size of a morbidly obese whale with tumors but it's because he knows what he wants to do and he refuses to let anyone or anything get in the way. Zeitgeist was fairly bad, save for a few songs, but it's hard not to appreciate his effort and the fact that they tried. I hope Oceania will be good, though.
    burndttoast
    ^ Even though Corgan wrote most of the music, the original members added a certain flare to their old albums--something I, unfortunately, don't really see or hear in their new albums with their more recent lineups.
    Pagan_Poetry
    burndttoast wrote: ^ Even though Corgan wrote most of the music, the original members added a certain flare to their old albums--something I, unfortunately, don't really see or hear in their new albums with their more recent lineups.
    Yeah you're kind of right. With that in mind, that flare wouldn't be present on any newer albums even if they had the former members if they truly didn't want to be there.
    airskank
    I don't think it has to do with the industry. Their newer music isn't bad, but I don't think it's as brooding and wonderfully hopeless as it used to be. Additionally tastes change and people become less relevant. Billy is miserably talented and needs an outlet for it. I wonder if the current shell that is suppose to be the Smashing Pumpkins is the best choice though.
    Rimfrost
    I think a lot of the teargarden songs stand among Corgans finest work. I especially love a stitch in time so im having my fingers crossed for oceania.
    burndttoast
    Pagan_Poetry wrote: Yeah you're kind of right. With that in mind, that flare wouldn't be present on any newer albums even if they had the former members if they truly didn't want to be there.
    Very true. I guess there's no where to go but forward.
    jrodgers
    This man is just dying to be relevent again. Zeitgeist wasn't a terrible album, it just wasn't up there with the other classic albums. I don't even think that was the problem, it was the tour afterwards where he stubbornly ran through all these 20 min free jazz oddyseys, and refused to play the music fans showed up to hear. Him going off on fans at shows for disloyalty hurt his rep even more, as did firing jimmy chamberlain and replacing him with a kid. Even though the new material is respectable, it doesn't matter anymore because he's alienated.....everyone. My wish would be for him to just shed the Pumpkins name once and for all. It's not winning new fans or even keeping the old ones. He has no one to blame but himself.
    hockemaster12
    The Smashing Pumpkins should have ended after everyone but billy quit. If he wants to keep making music great and I might like it but he is tainting the smashing pumpkins' reputation by making mediocre albums for ever and ever. He is comparable to axel rose in that respect.
    lVlaniac
    hockemaster12 wrote: The Smashing Pumpkins should have ended after everyone but billy quit. If he wants to keep making music great and I might like it but he is tainting the smashing pumpkins' reputation by making mediocre albums for ever and ever. He is comparable to axel rose in that respect.
    either shitty like Axl or amazing like King Crimson
    WheredMyRockGo?
    jrodgers wrote: This man is just dying to be relevent again. Zeitgeist wasn't a terrible album, it just wasn't up there with the other classic albums. I don't even think that was the problem, it was the tour afterwards where he stubbornly ran through all these 20 min free jazz oddyseys, and refused to play the music fans showed up to hear. Him going off on fans at shows for disloyalty hurt his rep even more, as did firing jimmy chamberlain and replacing him with a kid. Even though the new material is respectable, it doesn't matter anymore because he's alienated.....everyone. My wish would be for him to just shed the Pumpkins name once and for all. It's not winning new fans or even keeping the old ones. He has no one to blame but himself.
    Umm, he didnt fire Jimmy Chamberlain the second time. That would've been ridiculous. He kicked him out of the band the first time in like 96 because jimmy and the keyboardist OD'd on heroin and the keyboardist died. This time around Jimmy just didnt want to do it anymore... As the for the rest of what you said, i think you're spot on. I'm going to see them in october in chicago so I hope they play some old stuff.