Dave Mustaine: 'Black Magic Ruined My Life'

Megadeth's Dave Mustaine refuses to play heavy rock anthem "The Conjuring" live - because the track is laden with black magic imagery and occult spells.

Dave Mustaine: 'Black Magic Ruined My Life'
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The singer became fascinated in witchcraft as a teen and he's convinced spells he cast have come back to haunt him. Now a strict Christian, he's keen to distance himself from his dark past - and refuses to play his song "The Conjuring" from 1986 album "Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?" on tour - because the lyrics about black magic still affect him. He tells Total Guitar magazine, "Performance wise, 'The Conjuring' is one of the heaviest songs on the record, but unfortunately it's got black magic in it and I promised that I wouldn't play it any more, because there's a lot of instructions for hexes in that song." "Although it seems kinda corny, anybody who's a Wiccan (witch) or a warlock or anything like that will know that all of that stuff is instrumental." "When I got into black magic I put a couple of spells on people when I was a teenager and it haunted me forever, and I've had so much torment. People say, 'Goddamn, Dave never gets a break, he's had such a hard life,' and I just think, 'No, Dave didn't - he got into black magic and it ruined his life'". "Fortunately for me, with all the work and the love of my friends, and not giving up with my guitar playing, I got over it. So I look back now and I think, 'Hmm, I don't wanna play 'The Conjuring'". Thanks for the report to Yahoo! News.

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    rockingrugger
    DimebagsGhost67 wrote: People chill the **** out. All hes saying is that hes turning/turned his life around and just doesnt feel like playing the conjuring anymore. Thats it. Hes not spouting holyroller bullshit or anything he just doesnt feel like playing it. Damn.
    and this
    Its the Kyle
    If he wants to be a Christian and follow a violent and illogic religion, let him.
    Not cool bro. Not. Cool. If you had said "...a violent and illogical Christian..." then I'd have been fine, but calling all Christians violent and illogical (and believe me, there are those out ther *couch cough* W.B.C. *couch cough*) is a straight up lie. >:\ if you ask me, YOU'RE bein a bit closed minded.
    bryceh12321
    ChucklesMginty wrote: Lion_Slicer wrote: Musically I love Dave Mustaine... but his mouth is just a fountain of stupid. Agreed. Before you know he'll be a member of the Tea Party.
    Or he could end up being a completely uninformed bigot and post comments like that on UG!
    Eifler121
    CrawlingHorror wrote: "You're the closed minded one for thinking that Christianity is a "a violent and illogic religion"." The Crusades and the ensuing pogrom at places like Mainz (not to mention all the pogroms that occurred after that), the Verdict of Verdun and the Catholic Church urging Spain to go to war against England in the wake of Henry VIII separating his country from the Church's sphere of influence would tend to prove you wrong. And those incidents were just for starters. Look, Christianity is based on little more than a fear of death and the commonly expressed outrage folks feel that good people get f***ed over by the powerful or wealthy even as religion has historically allied itself with the very powers that have made innocents getting shafted possible. Christianity was largely imposed on Europe and the Roman world at the point of the sword after all. Crack open a history book, okay? So the sooner people realize that they've been hustled by the Christian and other religious establishments the better. Read Erich Fromme's "Escape from Freedom," which will help you understand why religion has become such a powerful force in human society.
    Those actions have nothing to do with the religion itself, it has to do with corruptable people influencing other corruptable people.
    Tone Deaf
    Footallica? wrote: If he was a true Christian he would know that those "spells" are crap.
    Depends on what you believe. I'm a Christian, and I think there's warant in that stuff. And how did I know this would become a christian bashing thread? Good god guys... And you're calling him an idiot... GTF over yourselves, and hop down off you high horse of self percieved intelligence before I do it for you.
    RiffYourFaceOff
    Al di Giltrucci wrote: Probably hexed Hammet. That explains why he hasn't been able to write a creative solo without wah wah since And Justice For All.
    Awesome.
    gibsonplyer
    Dave had a hard Life? No he didn't he got to live his dream and that of just about everyone on here. Dave's problem isn't black magic it was his drinking, his drug abuse, and his personality. Simple as that.
    saharanscourge
    YOu are sooooo stupid dude Dave was abused by his dad as a kid, we kno he did a lot of shit but the dude DID have a hard life- shut the **** up if you dont know anything
    a.w.mct
    Dave was abandoned by his alcoholic father, was raised by a Jehovah's Witness family (I have seen the very damaging effects this can have on a close friend of my own), and was forced to move out and live alone in an apt. at age 15 and paid rent and food by selling drugs. guy had a ****ed up childhood anyway you spin it
    Silverpack
    gibsonplyer wrote: Dave had a hard Life? No he didn't he got to live his dream and that of just about everyone on here. Dave's problem isn't black magic it was his drinking, his drug abuse, and his personality. Simple as that.
    This ! It's so freaking easy to not merely admit he had the weakness of being an alcoholic and drug addict.
    Buck Futter
    In the words of Frank Zappa: "Shut up 'n play yer guitar". I'm a big fan of Megadeth, but the whole "oh, I did black magic when I was a kid" story has been regurgitated every 3-6 months since at least 2005 (I say at least as that was when I first heard it in an interview).
    nathan:-)
    it.gibsonplyer wrote: Dave had a hard Life? No he didn't he got to live his dream and that of just about everyone on here. Dave's problem isn't black magic it was his drinking, his drug abuse, and his personality. Simple as that. Read his book. plus i think he knows his own life more than you.
    Agreed. I read his book too, he spent his childhood running from his estranged father who were stalking him and his mother. It was not at all easy.
    Sound_Garden_X
    So does he not play any tri-tones anymore? If those notes cause Satan to rise, what notes to I need to have Moses appear on stage a part my wall of amps while I solo?
    Denjario
    ChucklesMginty wrote: Lion_Slicer wrote: Musically I love Dave Mustaine... but his mouth is just a fountain of stupid. Agreed. Before you know he'll be a member of the Tea Party.
    I don't think Jeff Martin would work with him.
    GasPipe
    Funny how people tell believers not to shove their religion down their throats, but have no problems talking major shit about the believers. Just an observation.
    GasPipe
    BearCaveEcho wrote: Who the ****'s talking shit about Christians?!?! MY GOD, MEN!!! We're guitarists, stop worrying about whether or not you think that Christianity ruined your childhood because of Holy Rollin' parents. Hell, I'm a Catholic and I don't really go out and persecute some Jews just for the hell of it. I mean, you got to BE one to KNOW one, amiright? Who the **** cares if what some ignorant bastards waiving a cross in the air did (other than the people affected, sorry for the idiots that ruined good face) about 700-1000 years ago? It's sorta like saying all Muslims are Radical Islamics, which is really ****ed up. I mean, can't we just play our guitars and have a laugh about what Charlee She... Dave Mustain is saying? If you're so damn convinced that we're a bunch of pious puppets serving the Over-Pope and too busy converting the "evil doers" of the world, do you happen to live by Mormons or something? Cause I certainly don't go out and knock on people's doors and call them heathens. PLAY YOUR GUITAR AND BE HAPPY. Write a song about it, who cares? Maybe you'll make bucks out of it.
    I like this guy. He makes sense.
    Eidos
    why are people freaking out about this? this is from a very old interview and they post those quotes on websites every month to make people flip a bitch. get over it
    fender--player1
    but through opening yourself to the concept of spells, and letting demons or curses enter your life, satan and his demons can get a hold of you
    This And how dare anyone tell the artist, that HIS song, that HE wrote, does not contain black magic when he himself says it does. Ive seen and known loved ones involved in black magic, and yes it is real, and it does nothing but destroy the good in their life. When people deny it and say it is nothing but sillyness, that is exactly how you get involved in it, and then satan wins. dont screw with it
    vmntshredder
    gibsonplyer wrote: Dave had a hard Life? No he didn't he got to live his dream and that of just about everyone on here. Dave's problem isn't black magic it was his drinking, his drug abuse, and his personality. Simple as that.
    Jimmy-G
    People don't believe in magic because it is hidden, do some of your own research on the 'occult'
    cukd7x-a2-
    I think you'll be hard pressed to find someone who really experimented with the occult that didn't have some sort of experience with the dark side. This isn'tplaying with a Ouija Board at a party, this is lighteing candles in the shape of an upside down star drawn with the blood of a lamb stuff
    Jimmy-G
    People are so quick to judge without having sufficient knowledge of the matter, or plainly just want to instantly troll like conditioned internet users
    Megadeth2011
    Skullivan wrote: Footallica? wrote: If he was a true Christian he would know that those "spells" are crap. That's exactly what I was thinking. It's sort of a contradiction saying that you're a christian and then saying that you believe the magic spells/hexes are real.
    I'm not shoving my religion down your throat. I'm just going to give you a basic run down on it. It's not contradictory. Just like there is good and evil, there is God and Satan. The Bible mentions both. Satan is a powerful guy. The spells, hexes, etc. are real. A Christian that realizes Satan is real will know this.
    Element30000
    Dave..come on..his music and playing is amazing but F^%$, first they name the last album after all the Alex Jones bullshit and now this? He just needs to go back to the heroin...at least it made sense.
    qrEE
    RockInPeaceDime wrote: And Islam has absolutely nothing to do with Islamic terrorism...and my dad is Michael Jordan. It is possible for a religion to be a bad influence and be a significant motivating factor for violence. I know that's a revolutionary idea, but try it on for size.
    It's also possible for religion to be a GOOD influence. Ever heard of correlation? There's no correlation between religious affiliation and violence. Just believing in a religion does not make you more likely to be violent, just as playing video games or listening to metal doesn't make you more likely to be violent. Did you know that? There are instances where just believing in religion causes you to be less horrible, and there are instances where just believing in religion causes you to be more horrible. Jeffery Dahmer has become less horrible just by converting to Christianity. When he was Atheist, he was proud of his wrong doings, and now that he's converted, he's ashamed of himself beyond belief. A good amount of non-religious people think that violence and religion are directly related, but in reality, there's no relation between the two. It's more social and environmental factors. The reason the middle east is terrorist isn't because of Islam as a religion, but because of groups who radicalize said religion. It's like saying America is evil because of the constitution. You know, some people can commit atrocities in the name of America? And some people can commit atrocities in the name of God, and some people can commit atrocities in the name of evolution (eugenics). In the end, it's not the system, it's the people who abuse the system.
    Metal_Rich
    dopelope wrote: He's already admitted to his drug and alcohol abuse and he's already talked about this. Wheres the news?
    +1
    Creepingdeth89
    This Is Fun wrote: If by "black magic" you mean "heroin" then sure.
    + 1! Dave is a legend but sometimes he makes his life out to be a hell lot worse than it is. As if being in 1 of the pioneers of thrash and creating one of the greatest metal bands of all time isn't good enough.
    kratos379
    Eifler121 wrote: CrawlingHorror wrote: "You're the closed minded one for thinking that Christianity is a "a violent and illogic religion"." The Crusades and the ensuing pogrom at places like Mainz (not to mention all the pogroms that occurred after that), the Verdict of Verdun and the Catholic Church urging Spain to go to war against England in the wake of Henry VIII separating his country from the Church's sphere of influence would tend to prove you wrong. And those incidents were just for starters. Look, Christianity is based on little more than a fear of death and the commonly expressed outrage folks feel that good people get f***ed over by the powerful or wealthy even as religion has historically allied itself with the very powers that have made innocents getting shafted possible. Christianity was largely imposed on Europe and the Roman world at the point of the sword after all. Crack open a history book, okay? So the sooner people realize that they've been hustled by the Christian and other religious establishments the better. Read Erich Fromme's "Escape from Freedom," which will help you understand why religion has become such a powerful force in human society. Those actions have nothing to do with the religion itself, it has to do with corruptable people influencing other corruptable people.
    Okay then with the religions itself. God completely destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because the inhabitants were gay. The religion is gay bashing. Oh and there's slavery in the bible. It literally gives rules on how slaves should act and how long owners can have them. Yes that's really in the bible. The religion is actually violent and immoral.
    Cowless
    The article gets really funny when you replace every instance of "Black Magic" with "Black Tar Heroin".
    23dannybhoy23
    CrawlingHorror wrote: Look, Christianity is based on little more than a fear of death and the commonly expressed outrage folks feel that good people get f***ed over by the powerful or wealthy even as religion has historically allied itself with the very powers that have made innocents getting shafted possible. Christianity was largely imposed on Europe and the Roman world at the point of the sword after all. Crack open a history book, okay?
    Wrong. Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ, which were good and peaceful, and encouraged people not to fear death and tried to teach people that wealth and power are ultimately meaningless. People (stupid, greedy, evil people) have used Christianity for their own ends, but Christianity itself is a good thing, when you scrape away the bullshit people have tried to plaster it with.
    The Knox
    At first I was a bit sad that an artist would choose never to play a song life again, but then I listened to it and realized The Conjuring isn't really that heavy or good.
    mh1986
    mpk3432 wrote: Footallica? wrote: If he was a true Christian he would know that those "spells" are crap. but through opening yourself to the concept of spells, and letting demons or curses enter your life, satan and his demons can get a hold of you
    riiiiight. Does sound like a cool concept for a Metal song though! \m/
    w77yyz
    When I was younger, well much younger, I used to believe in Santa and wish for presents. I've had an awakening and now have vowed no to send lists to the North Pole or sing Rudolph. I feel I deserve to walk with Dave on the moral high road now.
    DrCOOL
    I loved his book. But seriously this is hardly news. And the guy used to sound pretty intelligent. No doubt he is but lately...man... And besides that song is honestly awesome. Easily my favorite off that album. So instead of looking at its black magic connotations he should see that it brings joy to people. also im pretty tired of the Christianity thing he keeps bringing up. seriously no one cares.
    cotton3434
    Lol. Yeah, "black magic" can ruin your life.. it's kind of obvious, in that Wiccans are aware of karma and whatnot. Negative intentions + negative intentions = negative stuffs happnins to you. Surprise. But the real problem here is just drug abuse. Doesn't matter how much meditation you do for the purpose of harming others (which is "black magic," as far as I'm concerned); when you bring massive drug abuse into the equation, your life is probably going to be pretty harsh, and blaming it on anything else is just stupid. In short.. moron.
    RockInPeaceDime
    Its the Kyle wrote: If he wants to be a Christian and follow a violent and illogic religion, let him. Not cool bro. Not. Cool. If you had said "...a violent and illogical Christian..." then I'd have been fine, but calling all Christians violent and illogical (and believe me, there are those out ther *couch cough* W.B.C. *couch cough*) is a straight up lie. >:\ if you ask me, YOU'RE bein a bit closed minded.
    The religion itself is plainly illogical. Inherently prone to violence...debatable. History likes to tell things.
    RockInPeaceDime
    23dannybhoy23 wrote: CrawlingHorror wrote: Look, Christianity is based on little more than a fear of death and the commonly expressed outrage folks feel that good people get f***ed over by the powerful or wealthy even as religion has historically allied itself with the very powers that have made innocents getting shafted possible. Christianity was largely imposed on Europe and the Roman world at the point of the sword after all. Crack open a history book, okay? Wrong. Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ, which were good and peaceful, and encouraged people not to fear death and tried to teach people that wealth and power are ultimately meaningless. People (stupid, greedy, evil people) have used Christianity for their own ends, but Christianity itself is a good thing, when you scrape away the bullshit people have tried to plaster it with.
    When you scrape away the bullshit (most of the Bible), you get some of the most basic innate morals known to mankind. The religion is unnecessary.
    RockInPeaceDime
    Eifler121 wrote: CrawlingHorror wrote: "You're the closed minded one for thinking that Christianity is a "a violent and illogic religion"." The Crusades and the ensuing pogrom at places like Mainz (not to mention all the pogroms that occurred after that), the Verdict of Verdun and the Catholic Church urging Spain to go to war against England in the wake of Henry VIII separating his country from the Church's sphere of influence would tend to prove you wrong. And those incidents were just for starters. Look, Christianity is based on little more than a fear of death and the commonly expressed outrage folks feel that good people get f***ed over by the powerful or wealthy even as religion has historically allied itself with the very powers that have made innocents getting shafted possible. Christianity was largely imposed on Europe and the Roman world at the point of the sword after all. Crack open a history book, okay? So the sooner people realize that they've been hustled by the Christian and other religious establishments the better. Read Erich Fromme's "Escape from Freedom," which will help you understand why religion has become such a powerful force in human society. Those actions have nothing to do with the religion itself, it has to do with corruptable people influencing other corruptable people.
    And Islam has absolutely nothing to do with Islamic terrorism...and my dad is Michael Jordan. It is possible for a religion to be a bad influence and be a significant motivating factor for violence. I know that's a revolutionary idea, but try it on for size.
    audio475
    kafirr wrote: Dave.. get out. Just leave. There are no hexes, there are no spells, you're just an idiot.
    hes an idiot for believing in black magic? are people who sit in a church praying to some old fart who lives in the sky idiots? no its a belief system so deal with it.
    gibsonplyer wrote: Dave had a hard Life? No he didn't he got to live his dream and that of just about everyone on here. Dave's problem isn't black magic it was his drinking, his drug abuse, and his personality. Simple as that.
    Read his book. plus i think he knows his own life more than you.