Dave Mustaine: 'It Looks Like We're Sprinting Down The Path To Socialism'

"Metal Zone" host Nikki Blakk of the 107.7 The Bone radio station conducted an interview with Megadeth mainman Dave Mustaine.

Dave Mustaine: 'It Looks Like We're Sprinting Down The Path To Socialism'
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"Metal Zone" host Nikki Blakk of the 107.7 The Bone radio station conducted an interview with Megadeth mainman Dave Mustaine on August 31, 2010 when the band played at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, California during the "American Carnage" tour with Slayer and Testament. You can now watch the chat below. When asked if he was still "avid in following politics," Mustaine replied, "I have tried not to say anything right now because I'm so freaked out about what's happening to our country. I mean, it looks like we're sprinting down the path to socialism and I don't understand where the American people are right now. You wanna impeach a guy for getting a blowjob yet you have a guy that's destroying our country and you just let him run rampant. "I don't understand that. I know a generation ago that this wouldn't have happened. It seems like we're just like I said sprinting towards socialism, and I don't wanna be a socialist. I like living in a free America. The idea that if you have a chicken in a democracy is that it's your chicken; if you're in socialism, it's everybody's chicken. It's like a communist country. And the idea of the U.S.S.R.A [laughs], it just doesn't have a good ring to it. "My God, look at the marketplace right now. This president promised 500,000 new jobs, we have 500,000 less jobs, so he missed that by one million. And I just think, 'God, how can you be so out of touch?'" Megadeth's "Rust In Peace Live" CD which captures the final night of the band's historic month-long "Rust In Peace" 20th anniversary tour sold around 3,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release to debut at position No. 161 on The Billboard 200 chart. Meanwhile, the DVD version of "Rust In Peace Live" shifted around 2,600 units to land at No. 3 on the Top Music Videos chart.
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    loaded_
    Oh Dave.. I love you but you don't have a clue about socialism. It's the sterotypical view of that liberals have: everything revolves around 'freedom' and the unconditional preservation of it, however there is no clear definition of what 'freedom' means in a political context.
    SlashFan810
    Socialism = Workers control of the means of production. Communism = Community control of the means of production. State Capitalism = Most of the degenerated top-down authoritarian regimes associated with the two above. Without these basic definitions and understandings of political theory, the words are going to be thrown around and abused in all sorts of contexts that are just plain wrong. I'm glad most people here at least understand that he is fundamentally misunderstanding the word.
    darkfire_storm
    Lapidus wrote: ok, that's when you realize that the guy is just plain ignorant, please, just talk about guitars Dave... And I thought he was supposed to have been be saved by god or something from his drug habits ? I might be dumb, but Jesus was all about sharing, forgiving and loving... When you think about it, how can you be a capitalist and a Christian at the same time...mmmm?
    theres a difference between sharing and giving someone a portion of what you earn because you have a job and they dont. i love dave even more now.
    Ardolino_Cool
    My Gosh....U.S.S.R.A....wouldn't that mean United Soviet States of Russia America? Why do Americans think socialism and communism go hand in hand...Socialism doesn't work without democracy...and the last British party was socially inclined but we weren't like China/Soviet Russia...Dave Mustane I have lost respect.
    DigAPony
    BlackDeath92 wrote: Whatever happened to musicians just playing music? The last thing the world needs is political bullshit mixed with entertainment.
    Do you even listen to music?
    MaddogX
    guusw wrote: by will alone wrote: socialism - a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. thats from the dictionary, so all you people that are saying "omg socialism is lyk not teh same as communism" should really give some explanation for that, because when you really look at the two systems, they are extremely similar. ya there are a few differences, like how the wealth is distributed, but it is the next step towards communism. and if you actually read what dave said, he says its LIKE a communist country, so everyone saying dave is stupid seriously needs to stfu. Wow!! You Americans really fear communism don't you guys. You fear it so much that even a little bit of socialism (which obama has introduced, like health care for everybody) gets you all scared. The Cold War is over you knew. Oh and this big recession is because of greedy Americans who bought to much stuff with "fantasy" money. Luckily it didn't hit us that hard here in the Netherlands, because we're a socialistic country. A country where everyone can go to college/university, get health care, own a home and have a job with meaning. Which of course are bad things considering the point of view of an American...
    Again there is no such thing as free anything that comes from government. You will either pay for it through taxes or the government will steal money from somebody else in order to pay for it. When government keeps subsidising something the cost of living goes up for everyone because less people are willing to spend or invest money.
    1000101
    sometimes i kind of wish that there was a board of political correspondents who replied to each internet comment regarding politics. i have a feeling most of the responses would be something like, "where the hell are you getting these facts? and why the hell would come to THAT conclusion based on THESE facts?"
    eshcibibble
    Lapidus wrote: ok, that's when you realize that the guy is just plain ignorant, please, just talk about guitars Dave... And I thought he was supposed to have been be saved by god or something from his drug habits ? I might be dumb, but Jesus was all about sharing, forgiving and loving... When you think about it, how can you be a capitalist and a Christian at the same time...mmmm? im not liberal/socialist or conservative/capitalist whatever people do on labeling for politics, and im not looking to argue its a waste of time and i honstly think dave should stay out of politics, as should all musicians... but anyway i know many many christians who are yes conservative and capatalist but are extremely charitable people and caring, and im Agnostic and im not being biased. but people shouldnt put religion or God's or Jesus's or whoever's ideas as examples for ideas of politics or whatever else. i understand when people say that He/he was socialist because He/he said share but we dont know him personally, share doesnt automaticly mean socialism does it? and what does love and forgivness have to do with it and how do we know what he'd been in favor of nowadays? again im not looking to argue or insult anyone or anything its just what i feel and i guess because i dont like to assume what someone means.
    unnamedplayer
    JOE_DESTROYER wrote: QvistDK wrote: Holy **** how stupid is Dave? Socialism equals communism? That's ****in bullshit, you can have easily run a democracy with socialist values, open your ****in mind.. man, ignorance like that pisses me off. have you ever taken gr 12 english? if so have you read animal farm? It's been proven by history time and time again that every time socialism is instated it is soon followed by communism rofl... 'all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others'
    Never seen prove of social democratic state just turning to communism actually. All European countries would be labeled 'socialistic' in American terms anyway, so you are trying to stay that entire Europe is communistic?
    unnamedplayer
    What does being close minded have to do with being a socialist? Anyway, the political spectrum is two dimensional at least; (economic)liberal and social(economic) on one axis, conservative and progressive on the other.
    JOE_DESTROYER
    QvistDK wrote: Holy **** how stupid is Dave? Socialism equals communism? That's ****in bullshit, you can have easily run a democracy with socialist values, open your ****in mind.. man, ignorance like that pisses me off.
    have you ever taken gr 12 english? if so have you read animal farm? It's been proven by history time and time again that every time socialism is instated it is soon followed by communism rofl... 'all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others'
    RockInPeaceDime
    SGstriker wrote: stilt37 wrote: Who cares what Dave Mustaine's opinions are about politics? It's not even relevant. Clearly, a lot of people do if there are hundreds of comments on an article about it. Just sayin'. I don't agree with everything the man says, but I do think he truly believes what he says, and I'm not going to damn him for it. The only people I'd call out as being tools are people who actually do harm (ie, your Hitler's, Stalin's, etc.). It just makes me laugh when people can't stand another's beliefs and opinions. Everyone just needs to take a chill pill and grow the **** up a bit, yes?
    It really has nothing to do with him giving an opinion, it's that his opinion is riddled with ignorance and plain factual incorrectness. In a few sentences he managed to get a number of facts wrong and show a blatant misunderstanding of multiple political-economic systems, all while pushing an ignorant agenda. He thinks Clinton was impeached on the basis of a blowjob. Entirely false, and I'm depressed people still believe this. He thinks the US is on a road to socialism. False. It's quite obvious both Democrats and Republicans (as terrible as both of them are) are both free-market parties. They're both right-leaning parties in every other democratic country in world -- the US just likes to make up random political spectrums that don't align with anything else in reality. Democrats are about as leftist as my right shoe is. Government is not a requisite for socialism. Quite the opposite actually. One of the more significant details of socialism is that it promotes getting rid of "the State." I wouldn't expect Mustaine to know that, given he probably hasn't cracked open a textbook in decades. Socialism and communism are not the same theory. Yet Mustaine, like countless others, pretend the words can be used interchangeably. They can't be.
    RockInPeaceDime
    Elidor55 wrote: If you all really believe that a Socialist and Communist Countries is so "advanced" why aren't you moving out of America and living. Half of you haven't ever even been to Europe to be talking the non-sense ignorant shit that comes out of your mouth. Easy to bash when your collecting unemployment, living off food stamps, or living with your mom when you could have educated your damn self in a country of so many second chances. Why don't you go to another Socialist country and leave this "UNDERDEVELOPED" country alone if its so damn bad. I'm sure in less than 3 months you'll be jumping the boarder like the rest of them.
    Obviously anybody who doesn't think the US is going down the road of socialism is an ignorant welfare abuser. Obviously anybody who doesn't like the current state of the US should get out, because, you know, that's what democracy is all about -- leaving if you don't like how things are going. Obviously the US is the most fantastic country in the world and needs no improvement.
    CFH-For-Life
    Flame flame flame Dave is an idiot flame flame flame economics flame flame flame socialism flame flame communist flame flame flame ARE PEOPLE REALLY ARGUING ABOUT THIS?!
    Elidor55
    If you all really believe that a Socialist and Communist Countries is so "advanced" why aren't you moving out of America and living. Half of you haven't ever even been to Europe to be talking the non-sense ignorant shit that comes out of your mouth. Easy to bash when your collecting unemployment, living off food stamps, or living with your mom when you could have educated your damn self in a country of so many second chances. Why don't you go to another Socialist country and leave this "UNDERDEVELOPED" country alone if its so damn bad. I'm sure in less than 3 months you'll be jumping the boarder like the rest of them.
    bb155558
    i agree with him alot, socialism is what this country is headed for, u don't need to be a political scienctist to figure it out.
    delos666
    OMG...what???He doesn't have an idea of what is socialism...I like Megadeth but their political ideas suck...
    CrazyPigeon
    Just lost a lot of respect for him (if that's even possible). I quite like socialism, it's more free than capitalism.
    JSmith38
    This
    Vabolo wrote: The problem is that schools don't teach you how to think critically and how to reason, independently of your beliefs, anymore, and only teach you to take sides by making you see a one-sided history of the world, from the perspective of a single country. We don't encourage the youth to think for itself, we encourage it to study so that it can get a diploma for a job and make money, making you more apt for the "free" market than for a democratic system. We should really reconsider the education system if we are to reconsider the social, political and economic system that a state should follow. That, or we just put a whack-job dictator at the head of state so that everybody hates him and no one gets into conflict with the nonexisting other parties.
    And that
    Vabolo wrote: Also, declaring the healthcare system proposed by president Obama as being "socialist" is like calling every thing that the US has done since the Reagan administration "fascist". You have to think about what your favourite media/politicians/activists say before you gobble it up and regurgitate it on your blog and/or your ballot, else you are just being used. That's right, like a tool. Remember, kids, be it Right or Left, extremes always lead to a crappier world.
    JSmith38
    Elidor55 wrote: If you all really believe that a Socialist and Communist Countries is so "advanced" why aren't you moving out of America and living. Half of you haven't ever even been to Europe to be talking the non-sense ignorant shit that comes out of your mouth. Easy to bash when your collecting unemployment, living off food stamps, or living with your mom when you could have educated your damn self in a country of so many second chances. Why don't you go to another Socialist country and leave this "UNDERDEVELOPED" country alone if its so damn bad. I'm sure in less than 3 months you'll be jumping the boarder like the rest of them.
    Before you bash make sure you spellcheck! Arguments rife with grammatical error rarely make history (unless you're Sarah Palin since her book is rife with error).
    guitarplaya070
    Elidor55 wrote: If you all really believe that a Socialist and Communist Countries is so "advanced" why aren't you moving out of America and living. Half of you haven't ever even been to Europe to be talking the non-sense ignorant shit that comes out of your mouth. Easy to bash when your collecting unemployment, living off food stamps, or living with your mom when you could have educated your damn self in a country of so many second chances. Why don't you go to another Socialist country and leave this "UNDERDEVELOPED" country alone if its so damn bad. I'm sure in less than 3 months you'll be jumping the boarder like the rest of them.
    Well said.
    guitarplaya070
    His misgivings aside, the fact that Obama's presidency has been completely awful can't be ignored.
    Dethonator
    Mustaine is obnoxious as ****, I'm not really surprised by his beliefs. Also, if you visited to the Megadeth website and checked his bio, it clearly states that his favorite thing on TV is Fox News. 7 / 11 shows are just opinion-based segments. For once, I blame the media for his beliefs. Ironic for a metalhead, eh?
    Sakke
    SlashFan810 wrote: Socialism = Workers control of the means of production. Communism = Community control of the means of production. State Capitalism = Most of the degenerated top-down authoritarian regimes associated with the two above. Without these basic definitions and understandings of political theory, the words are going to be thrown around and abused in all sorts of contexts that are just plain wrong. I'm glad most people here at least understand that he is fundamentally misunderstanding the word.
    Just try to remember that Dave lived in the time there was still cold war. He probably has more hatred towards socialism or communism cause of those times. I do understand that Dave is being pretty straight forward, but I also understand his point since he has lived in the time when there were soviets.
    MoleMania
    JOE_DESTROYER wrote: QvistDK wrote: Holy **** how stupid is Dave? Socialism equals communism? That's ****in bullshit, you can have easily run a democracy with socialist values, open your ****in mind.. man, ignorance like that pisses me off. have you ever taken gr 12 english? if so have you read animal farm? It's been proven by history time and time again that every time socialism is instated it is soon followed by communism rofl... 'all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others'
    ...Yet was written by a socialist. That book is an allegory to the rise of the soviet union, and where they as an individual nation went wrong. You could argue that they functioned as more of a State Capitalist country than an even remotely communist society. All in all it is certainly no reason to dismiss the socialist agenda.
    thedarkblues06
    thedarkblues06 wrote: transplants182 wrote: If you guys knew as much about politics as you think you do then you probably wouldn't have the time to go on UG. People these days seem to think they're aficionados on any given subject just because they read a wikipedia article. Let's just face that we (me, you, and Dave Mustaine) really don't know the first thing about politics. I'm sorry, I was going to stay out of this, but this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. I have a degree in political science, and do read constantly, and I also have time to peruse the wastelands of UG. Dave Mustaine doesn't have a clue as to what he is talking about. The United States is primarily *gasp* A SOCIALIST system...the capitalism exists only in the market. Don't believe me? There's your proof.
    If you follow the above link, apologies; it's the first picture (the rest are just of my car). This is the direct link to the above mentioned photo: http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac67/... 590Ev.png
    thedarkblues06
    transplants182 wrote: If you guys knew as much about politics as you think you do then you probably wouldn't have the time to go on UG. People these days seem to think they're aficionados on any given subject just because they read a wikipedia article. Let's just face that we (me, you, and Dave Mustaine) really don't know the first thing about politics.
    I'm sorry, I was going to stay out of this, but this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. I have a degree in political science, and do read constantly, and I also have time to peruse the wastelands of UG. Dave Mustaine doesn't have a clue as to what he is talking about. The United States is primarily *gasp* A SOCIALIST system...the capitalism exists only in the market. Don't believe me? http://s886.photobucket.com/albums/ac67/... tion=view¤t=590Ev.png There's your proof.
    ANdrzK
    What's the matter about socialism? I live in a socialist country (Denmark), and look.. It's the happiest country in the world, with one of the highest incomes per citizen in the world.. Free healthcare, free education (with financial support), Financial support for various things, and free this and that.. For that, I'm gladly paying half my paycheck in taxes! Seriously, socialism doesn't limit your freedom at all. Google my country abit, and you'll find out that it is one of the countries in the world with the highest rate of freedom.. And oh, yes, we pay extra for everything, but atleast our citizens aren't in need of owning firearms because of a high crime rate, which is caused by not helping the weak.. Which all could be avoided with "socialism"..
    audiophile0101
    government control is what got us into a depression and prolonged it. high tax rates,farm subsidies,import tariffs,price controls
    vithuclearview
    studying in politics right now, hes definitly missing the ideas of democratic socialism by a longshot
    Kazaza
    MT in Austin wrote: METAL MIKEY wrote: i think dave came to the realization that in a socialist state, a large sum of his hard earned money will be taken by the government and used for bullshit reasons. l Yeah, like roads, police, fire protection, education, national defense, etc. People want the things taxes pay for but don't want to pay taxes. Then they complain about a "nanny state". Isn't that what you want -- your "parents" to pay for everything for you?
    I couldn't have put it better myself
    damskippy
    According to Karl, socialism is the imperfect first step TOWARDS the "inevitability" of communism. And Dave's been like this for fking decades, if you didn't notice that, you simply weren't paying any attention. The fkr can still shred though.
    The_Raven
    GenerationKILL wrote: The amount of stupidity posted by know-it-all 15 year old metalheads who think they know politics is HILARIOUS! Seriously you guys, enlighten yourself to form your OWN opinions on things instead of obliging a clueless and brainwashed *****. Bill Hicks would be proud if you did!
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha oh man
    atkm2891
    Hell yeah Dave. Speaking it like it is. I always thought dave was a big leftie? Guess not. He speaks the truth. impeach obama!
    floydrose09
    i would like to know how many of the people bashing Fox News/Glenn Beck actually have watched it, and not for one show, but for an extended period of time. Alas, many people hop on the band wagon... ignorance, can't live with it... can't live without it.
    TheArcaneEmpire
    Regardless of my opinion, it was dumb of Dave to compare socialism to democracy because they're not even in the same field. He should have compared socialism to capitalism. He may have been watching too much Fox News.
    GenerationKILL
    The amount of stupidity posted by know-it-all 15 year old metalheads who think they know politics is HILARIOUS! Seriously you guys, enlighten yourself to form your OWN opinions on things instead of obliging a clueless and brainwashed *****. Bill Hicks would be proud if you did!
    RockInPeaceDime
    metalhed0294 wrote: guitarlad89 wrote: guitarlad89 wrote: heavenbesideyou wrote: Someone elect this man for 2012. Must be the only rockstar who doesn't have their head shoved up their ass politically. YES. Him and 'Nuge in 2010 2012 **** lol also this For all you people who apparently say to look up the definition of socialism, it is any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. It also has to do with taxing the rich more because they're rich. The Government owns part of GM. Hidden in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (health care bill), it says that if you're self employed or an individual whose income is $200,000 a year or more or if a family's income is more than $250,000 a year, they must pay 0.5% more in taxes. It may be small, but it's socialist. This message goes out to all the people who say to go look up the definition of socialism and who say the the PPACA isn't socialist.
    On UG: A progressive tax rate is socialist.