Dave Mustaine on Modern Music Technology: 'It Made It Possible to Fool the Public'

Megadeth mastermind discusses the impact of digital audio workstations on the modern music scene.

Dave Mustaine on Modern Music Technology: 'It Made It Possible to Fool the Public'
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Despite a vast array of advantages modern technology brought to musicians around the globe, many prominent music figures still point out at the negative aspects of various digital tools used for music recording and production. Among that crowd is also Megadeth mastermind Dave Mustaine, who recently discussed the current state of music during an interview with Caller.com. "I would have to say something that covers all forms of music right now," the frontman kicked off, "Digital audio workstations like Pro Tools, Cakewalk and Garage Band made it possible for a lot of people that can play a guitar or something like that, but they're not really musicians, they don't have it in their blood - so they can plug into a computer, pluck a couple chords, make a song and then fool the public." Mustaine also talked about donating a part of the band's Gigantour proceeds to the Regional Food Bank to help those affected by a recent Oklahoma tornado. "I'm not one of these global warming idiots, but I do know that when you see a city, a town, a county, a state with so much devastation - how can you just sit back and not do anything? I figured [that] the most important thing is to help. I think that's one of the things we've forgotten a lot - that's why there's the homeless, that's why there's the sick, the needy, the widows, the orphans." The frontman continued, "That's not for the government to take care of, that's for the churches to take care of. That's for us as the body of the church to take care of. When I saw that I called up Zakk and I said, 'Zakk, you know the show we're doing in Oklahoma City? I'm gonna give up my fee.' And that's a lot of money." As far as the subject of modern music technology is considered, it is worth noting that yet another major music figure, legendary Free/Bad Company frontman Paul Rodgers, recently gave somewhat of a similar statement, saying that "the music industry is using too much technology." Megadeth released their fourteenth record, "Super Collider," on June 4 via Universal-powered label Tradecraft. With 29,000 copies sold in the US within the first week, it debuted at No.6 on the Billboard 200 chart.

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    sloppyjoe24
    From my personal experience, I use the midi editor of pro tools to compose some music to see what a full orchestra would sound like if I wrote all the parts. BECAUSE I DON'T OWN A REAL FUCKING ORCHESTRA!
    Jozef23
    Your logic is beautiful. Seriously dude, you summed up my thoughts perfectly
    Dakatsu
    I hate purists that complain about computer-generated music. I don't care what you use to make your music, so long as I enjoy it.
    eddiehimself
    Unfortunately, we don't all have tens of thousands of $ to spend on our recording studio setups. As much as I love most of Megadeth's songs, there is no denying that he is getting a bit old and crazy, and no amount of autotune is going to cover up how ****ed his voice is becoming.
    slush
    The usual elitist, grandfathering bullshit from Dave. DAWs have revolutionized the music "industry". The average bedroom project with a guy using GarageBand or Logic and playing every instrument has about 20 times the passion that Dave showed on Risk and now Supercollider. And he has the gall to say "they're not really musicians"? Bullshit.
    munkybusiness
    Yeah and what passion do they have that can match up to Rust in Peace and Endgame? You can be as passionate as you want in your room with your computer, you're not Dave Mustaine recording Endgame and probably never will be.
    slush
    True. Maybe they aren't Dave Mustaine, because a lot of them are better. The only difference is, people will keep buying shitty Megadeth CD's because Megadeth was once great, instead of discovering independent artists who actually care enough to make good music.
    munkybusiness
    I don't believe that they are better. I bet you'd find a couple of diamonds in the rough, like that little dude who did the Canon Rock video possibly... Give him Pro tools or garage Band and he can piece together a cool track (cheating as Dave put it). Do you think he's gonna stand up on stage and compete with Dave Mustaine and that absolute musical genius Broderick when they're on form? Sure, the last 2 Megadeth albums weren't exactly good but bands with balls change, (unlike the safe bands like the Chili's, who will release the same album over and over again) and hardcore fans don't like it, just ask Opeth. Passion and Pro Tools won't give you what Dave Mustaine has. He's a good guitar player in a good band that has released a few poor albums amidst the outstanding ones.
    slush
    That canon rock video is just the TIP of the iceberg. Do yourself a favour and check out Sithu Aye. For all intents and purposes he's an average joe; he just got his Master's degree in physics. But he loves music, so he writes and records instrumentals. He's put out two albums and a couple of EPs. Each of which completely OBLITERATES everything Mustaine has done in the last decade. And there are hundreds if not thousands of guys like him. Angel Vivaldi, Gru, Widek, David Maxim Micic just off the top of my head. All of them recording amazing music by themselves, not to make a quick buck, but because they're passionate about it and they're all amazing musicians. Offhand dismissal of this phenomenon indicates nothing more than the fact that Mustaine (and everyone who agrees with him) is a grumpy old dinosaur who needs to be put out to pasture.
    slush
    And, if you don't believe that they can pull it off live, go check out Skyharbor and Chimp Spanner. They started off as bedroom projects and they made it big(ish). Let's see Mustaine go toe to toe with THOSE guys on stage.
    munkybusiness
    At his age now? After that back threat? In his prime. and like I said, Broderick is the man. It doesn't matter anyway, Dave keeps saying stupid things, seemingly every 3 days on here. You are talking sense, I admit it. I think the way it's looking, in regards to releasing good records, it ended with Endgame. Dave is indeed a grumpy old man, and he will be surpassed. I just don't think he needs the digital tech to make a decent record like the world has evolved into.. Couple of amps and a few weeks, instead of the usual overcompressed bollocks.. but he isn't doing that, he's using the same new stuff that everyone else is I believe, so my points are all invalid. I'm kinda losing track of my own argument here so I'm gonna shaddup. You win sir, good game of banter. See you on the next Mustaine feed, slush (probably be one in 12 hours). Peace
    Archer250
    Sure, how is he going to compete with blind, random, meaningless pentatonics? Composition aside, I don't think there's that many people here not a better guitarist than Mustaine.
    The_Dayman
    I doubt that very much, actually. I don't agree with him here, but I wouldn't doubt his skills as a guitar player.
    SeventhFrost
    I can understand these musicians being wary of things such as this but there's a fundamental difference between a few realities here. Using something like protools or garage band to edit your playing of an instrument into something better/different than it is CAN be considered fooling the public, yes (in the sense that someone can hear it and say WOW this person's really good... but they're actually not. ). I don't think it's really right in that sense, and can understand their points of view. But here's the thing, what's the definition of a musician? Should it be distinguished from terms like "artists"? Because to most people a musician is someone who plays an already formally recognized instrument. But an artist (when used in the music world) is just someone who makes music. That could mean they're a guitar virtuoso, they sing, hell they can play the saw for all I care. If it has some tonal structure, it'd be music, making them an artist, right? But then why not a musician? Why is there an elitist stigma engraved into the heart and soul of music, that if your body isn't trained enough (or you're not luckily talented enough) to keep up with a musical mind, you can't make music? Why is that? Because you know what people that make music on electronic mediums are, right? They're composers... Novice (and many a time horrible) Composers. Composers who have been lucky enough to be born into an age where they can make their pieces happen on their own terms, themselves. The main difference is the availability of it all, the tools, the knowledge, the ability to play it back as you make it up, the ability to choose your sounds, and the ability to find people that enjoy it like you do. The music they make is just as much music as anything else is. Hell, after a while, if they keep at it and progress, they end up knowing more about actual music theory than rock guitarists of the same level do, provided they're just as formally untrained. And don't you dare say electronic music isn't music. Look up the definition if you need to, but the only thing that's changed is the style and the medium. Keep in mind that this exact same transformation had to happen in order to introduce rock to the music world, which lead to... you got it! metal! lookin' at you, dave. So what it really comes down to is this. When you listen to an artist, musician, whatever you want to label someone who makes music any certain way... Do you want to judge their works based on their ability to master a skill of your choosing just to transfer music to you through YOUR medium of choice, or do you want to judge them based on their ability to create music? /rant
    Familyghost
    Absolutely agree with what you say here. And I think in first paragraph you are explaining it like I tried to, just maybe with better wording.
    Exelion
    He's just saying that people can abuse those softwares to look like real pros. And that's not being a real musician!
    EyesWideOpen
    "I'm not one of these global warming idiots" Is he calling people who accept that global warming exists and is a rapidly growing problem backed by mountains of evidence idiots? Or is he calling the idiots who deny it idiots.
    winnetouch
    How much proof do we actually have? There is actually a HUGE amount of evidence that disproves most of human influenced global warming. I'm not saying that's an excuse to pollute, god knows man is responsible for other disasters (animals dying out, destroying entire ecosystems, etc.). But I suggest you look up other sources before making such claims...
    jamie_hough
    Ok fair enough - even if you don't believe that humans are responsible for all global warming, is that really an excuse just to ignore potentially 'planet-saving', and therefore 'human-species-saving', ideas? Whichever way you cut it, saving the planet is really about saving human life, and if you don't want to save the planet, but care for human life, then surely there is common ground for both sides to work towards?
    munkybusiness
    I heard it's all shit and the number 1 factor is steam. Then for a while, they tried to blame it on livestock... _ Then you hear that the world isn't heating up, it's cooling down... so it's no longer called global Warming, tiz now Climate Change. Let's just blame it on a God that doesn't exist and shut the fuk up about it. Unless you want to put your hand on your chest and believe in Al Gore.
    Archer250
    Yes, and the Sun orbited around the earth, then the earth orbited around the sun in a circular trajectory, then an elliptical trajectory. Let's just say it sits on the back of a giant turtle that doesn't exist.
    Ottmeister
    The human factor in climate change is next to 0, it has always changed and will change. I'd suggest you look up some articles other than wikipedia, or you'll end up looking like one of the "Global warming idiots" Dave was talking about.
    Archer250
    I suggest you state some points.
    winnetouch
    Like the earth having 3 rotations not just 2 as believed by most people. It rotates around the sun, it's axis and the axis themselves turn. That causes the magnetism of the planet to shift, witch causes climate change. How about the fact that Earth had major ice ages without humans being present (that's a climate change too ya' know) and there are many more.
    Archer250
    "How about the fact that Earth had major ice ages without humans being present" Irrelevant. IF your argument revolves around the notion that the IPCC assert that climate change is strictly, majorly and mostly caused by humans, then you should turn tail and leave. IF you assert that the fact that climate changes have happened naturally, and therefore not human-influenced, then I suggest you understand that many animals have been driven to near extinction by natural disasters, yet you yourself admit that we have had parts in driving them extinct.
    poland
    Between you and JDawg THANK YOU IT SEEMS MANY ON THIS SITE ARE EITHER BRAINDEAD OR BRAINWASHED. Peace to all
    Archer250
    I like it how these people got their "facts" from easily-refuted websites with a serious agenda.
    EyesWideOpen
    Yes, it has always changed and will always change. That doesn't mean that we don't have a part in it. It is a fact that carbon dioxide makes the earth hotter. Have you any idea how much carbon dioxide is released per year because of humans. Billions ans billions of tonnes. Far more than the plants and the trees on our planet can handle especially with places like the rainforests being obliterated.
    GhostPlayground
    Actually, it's more than just carbon dioxide. There's a lot of other gases that we produce as well that is contributing to climate change. Although, the human factor is not as big a factor as some people think. It's not 'next to 0' as was stated earlier but we aren't the absolute cause of climate. There are various other factors that would have contribute to climate change at around this time had we not existed. The truth is that the human factor, the environmental factor, and a few other random factors that may come up in 2014 (if you believe that meteor rumours) is all happening at the exact wrong time. Chances are, we'll probably all be dead within the next 50-60 years.
    Vermilion314159
    The issue isn't that the climate is changing. The issue is that a process which normally takes thousands of years is happening in decades.
    JDawg
    Wtf is global warming? It's climate change and it occurs naturally and the mountain of evidence you're talking about is all bullshit bias government funded data so they can push their agenda. Give me break, anyone who uses the title global warming is ignorant.
    EyesWideOpen
    I'd highly advise you to stop frequenting conspiracy websites and look up some videos that actually disagree with you instead of the confirmation bias you likely have. It's pathetic to just dismiss scientific evidence as bullshit government funded bias. That's a cop out. It's running away from the truth instead of facing it.
    JDawg
    Oh... Yes... Because the government would never do anything wrong. There is plenty of evidence that global warming is a farce. Climate change is real, but there isn't a damn thing we can do to stop it. It naturally occurred in the past, it will happen again.
    Archer250
    What a weak reason not to contribute to something good!
    JDawg
    What's good about corruption? I've learned not to put my faith and trust into people who are motivated by money and power. I do my part to take care of the earth...
    slush
    Who ISN'T motivated by money and power? Get your head out of your ass. Most "climate change idiots" are motivated by survival. If you aren't then I hope you receive the Darwin award you deserve.
    JDawg
    I'm not. As are a lot of people. Motivated by survival? If there wasn't so much power involved I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. It's 2013 and we've been crying global warming for the last 30 years and according to some graphs I've seen, we should have burned up by now. It's a farce, get over it.
    slush
    You're not motivated by power and money eh? Please tell me what kind of philanthropic work you are engaged in so that I can contribute to it when I make my hypothetical millions. You sure make it seem like a worthy cause, whatever it is.
    EyesWideOpen
    Just because the government HAS done things that are wrong doesn't mean that everything they do IS wrong. This is what I always see with you conspiracy people. Instead of evidence you point out past wrongdoings instead of providing any evidence for supposed current one. That or you just resort to calling everyone sheeple then lay back in an evangelical rigor of self satisfaction at how much more intelligent you are than everyone else.
    JDawg
    Where ever there is a political opportunity to gain money and power over the people, they will exploit every avenue possible. And I'm far from a conspiracy theorist, I'm just going by what I see. Maybe you think I'm brainwashed, I don't care. I think the same thing about you.
    Archer250
    "Where ever there is a political opportunity to gain money and power over the people, they will exploit every avenue possible" You speak as if every single movement against climate change, from every corner of the world, from every organization is hell bent on the one reason -- and one reason only-- to rob you of your money. Does that sound "far from a conspiracy theorist" to you?
    RnFnR95
    dont worry about the downvotes man everything you just said is spot on true!
    poland
    Why IF THE SCIENCE IS CORRECT why did the scientist overseas do everything possible to eliminate information that showed the global warming was not happening? By the way the hottest day at 134 degrees in death valley 100 years ago, Death Valley set a scorching record -- 134 degrees. So start your global warming search 100 years ago.
    Archer250
    Yeah because climate change should affect America only. It's GLOBAL warming, not DOMESTIC warming.