Dream Theater Explain Why Mike Portnoy Can't Rejoin

Dream Theater have explained the reason why their former drummer Mike Portnoy cant't rejoin.

Dream Theater Explain Why Mike Portnoy Can't Rejoin
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In a recent interview with Music Radar, Dream Theater have revealed why they rejected former drummer Mike Portnoy when he tried to re-join the band. The story began when Portnoy, their founding drummer, split from the group last September after 25 years together. He continued full-time with Avenged Sevenfold, but admitted his regret attempt to re-join the band. So why did the group turn him down? It turns out that the audition process, which was filmed for a forthcmoming documentary, found them a new drummer in Mike Mangini, who had already quit his day job as a professor at Berklee. "Mike Mangini's life changed dramatically", explains guitarist John Petrucci. "He was a professor at Berklee, and he had to give notice that he was leaving. He's got a wife and two kids - the whole thing. So he came down and we started making a record. And then Mike asked if he could get back in... [shakes head]." Keyboardist Jordan Rudess continued: "So Mike Portnoy came to us and asked to rejoin: 'Hey, guys I've reconsidered, I've made a mistake'". "It was like, 'Oh my God, you can't do this to us. You can't pull the rug out from under us like this.' It was hard. Here we went through this whole drama, and we finally found this new guy who we were happy with. At a certain point, you just throw up your hands and go, 'This can't be happening!'" Rudess also revealed the emotional impact he felt when he first heard the news of Portnoy's departure: "After we got off the phone with him, when he told us what was going to happen, that he was leaving... I literally sat on the steps of my studio and cried. This is a guy who's a friend of mine, who we all love and admire. We didn't want to see it come crashing down." "The whole thing brought me to tears. But we all realized that we had to find a way to keep going. This is our business."

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    Garland41
    pineaple expres wrote: Jasonbts wrote: They should let him rejoin and make him play cowbell more cowbell!!!!!
    I've got a fever. and the only perscription is more cowbell!
    Unholy Crusada
    I agree. It wouldn't be fair to Mike M. to throw him out of a position he worked so hard to achieve. Plus, I really want to see how this album will sound without Mike P's influence. It very well could be a return to old-school DT for all we know.
    Randomrings
    vikkyvik wrote: T3HM3T4L wrote: ""After we got off the phone with him, when he told us what was going to happen, that he was leaving... I literally sat on the steps of my studio and cried. This is a guy who's a friend of mine, who we all love and admire. We didn't want to see it come crashing down."" Didn't they pretty much force him to leave after he asked to take a break from the band to relax for a while and didn't get it? They didn't force him to leave. He wanted to take a break; they didn't. He quit. They found a new drummer. Nothing wrong with either party's decision(s) in my opinion.
    thank you! i agree with this man. And I wouldn't be too worried about any of them. Other than being a professor, Mangini hasn't seen real action in a long time. When's the last time you heard of Extreme doing anything? Portnoy has a million other things going for him, one of which includes paul gilbert. And Avenged Sevenfold and Dream Theater are obviously fine, only i don't really care whether A7X continues to thrive or not at this point. its all good
    DanielN
    Garland41 wrote: pineaple expres wrote: Jasonbts wrote: They should let him rejoin and make him play cowbell more cowbell!!!!! I've got a fever. and the only perscription is more cowbell!
    Damn it!! Beat me to it XD lol
    samhell
    I wish they'd replace the singer. I totally love everything about their music except the singing. That guys voice is annoying to me.
    sheriff_nein
    i think they chose the new drummer because his name is mike... but anyway, hopefull the new album will be crazy progressive, i kinda think that portnoy was the source of the mainstream influence on the past few discs...
    MegadethFan18
    ATREYUFAN4LIFE wrote: Well it's his fault for not joining A7x when he had the chance. Now that A7x has their new drummer and so does Dream Theatre he's kinda out of luck right now lol
    Avenged didn't offer him the full time spot, they pretty much said if he joind it would be like "Avenged Sevenfold and Mike Portnoy"
    emphaticleech
    Wow. Every article I see about this makes me despise Portnoy more and more. Seriously? He left the band over the phone? He was with them for over 20 years and he dumped them over the phone?
    rain-man
    KeinanM wrote: So what this article tells me is somewhere we were lied to, cause if you look at previous articles you see that Mike Mangini wasnt select till about a week and a half ago yet this article says he quit his job and was recording with them back when Mike Portnoy asked to comeback, in January if I remember correctly. And they told Mike P. that no he couldn't come back cause Mike M. quit his job to join them, so in the end someone somewhere is lying to us.
    It was just announced a week and a half ago, they made the decision long before that.
    Lost Dog
    Wow. I thought Dream Theater were the villains here, but it turns out they turned him down for a good reason. That guy must have worked really hard to get that spot.
    Kioshi
    Well, velvet revolver still has an open spot right? Sure, it's for a singer, grohl was a drummer before a successful career as a vocalist. And the rev had an awesome voice, and also happened to be the guy portnoy was, for lack of a better term, filling on for with a7x.
    dabomb2802
    haveing to do something dosnt go good with art, and thats what it sounds like is going on here. shure its a dick move to boot mm but that shouldnt be the resson for not taking potnoy back. family first then music and then buissnes.
    DethByHeadcrush
    rafey wrote: or the triangle. Triangle Solo! (from the Foo Fighters Wembley DVD)
    That is the greatest thing ever! I love Grohl's humor. Anyways, I am not angry at Mike, DT, or A7X. Everyone is entitled to choices, and Mike wanted a breather. For a band that has been together for so long and are such good friends, they should be able to respect that (at least to some extent depending on what is happening performance wise.) A7X was (and still is the way see it; I loved Rev.) going through a very hard time with the loss of The Rev. They only asked for a fill in drummer for the album, and they knew who to pick if they wanted the best. So Mike's ending with them was somewhat appropriate since they didn't ask for him to really stay any longer than it took to make the album and do a few live performances. And as for Dream Theater, I'm just sad to see them go on without Mike P. I understand why they can't take him back (and I would have done the same) but I am gonna miss him. He is my favorite drummer, but I'm sure Mike M will be great as well if the band accepted him in as a new drummer.
    Shawn1379
    This seems a little odd. From what I remember, Mike said he couldn't even get in touch with the band, and that when he tried, he had to talk to their lawyers. Yet here's Jordan Rudess talking as if Mike did talk to them directly. Someone's lying. Honestly, I think that, for whatever reason, the other guys in DT just stopped liking Mike Portnoy and they used this situation as a way to kick him out while they can still look like they've done nothing wrong. I guess I can't blame them if that's the case. I'd hate to constantly work with someone I didn't like. Although, I'm probably just in "conspiracy theory mode" because I really like Mike, and I want him to be the good guy in the situation.
    God_Petrucci
    I ll always supported Dream Theater in whole situation, and I know that they did the right choice! Portnoy messed up here no Doubt! Thought I ll still love Mike Portnoy, but Petrucci is a more Wise and right-minded Person! Dream Theater deserves to continue the journey and do what they love!
    guitarsolo_17
    Okay... Does anyone here realize who Mike Mangini is? If he asked to be reinstated at Berklee, he would be immediately. Nothing dramatic about it. Portnoy should be the drummer for the band Howard Portnoy named.
    Princehi5
    This is simple...Did DT gave MP departure time to think of his action? YES!.MP had reason to rejoin but it doesn't mean he can comeback to play with them in the current situation.DT would never be a DT in the Music Industry so they just made a right decision to reborn the Empire once again despite of the losses.On my perspective view..They really made their step moving on when they finally met a light "MM" right on time in the business.Well done..All we have to do is to celebrate and look forward to hear their New Album with the luck Great new drummer in the field.
    crystalfin
    I think LaBrie is an excellent singer. -i think everybody should get a few chances to do the right thing(MP)- And I also agree that MM would get his job back in a split of a second if chose so. -Do we have to hear the new album before we see it's the right thing to do? -This has also something to do with friendship.
    c21vin
    This totally leaves the door open for Portnoy to come back in the future. If Dream Theater's new album doesn't do well they'll chalk it up to creative differences and dump Mangini. Also, when we actually read the facts some time later I don't blame either side. Bad timing that's all.
    Eirien
    I'm glad they have Mike Mangini now, he's an intense drummer and seems like a really cool guy. I would've said the same about Portnoy just a few months ago but he's really come off looking like a dick, especially after asking to rejoin. He's like a baby who doesn't want to play with his toys any more until he sees someone else playing with them.
    Cheeseman Jay
    I think that that's very fair of Dream Theater. I think they've been cast as the villain in this pantomime, but this should put them back in good stead.
    courageous93
    "He continued full-time with Avenged Sevenfold, but admitted his regret attempt to re-join the band." "admitted his regret attempt" I long for the day when I won't see a grammatical error in a UG article.
    harpcicle
    Fair play really. Main reason Portnoy wanted back in was because Sevenfold didn't want to keep him on board like he was probably hoping after he left Dream Theater, he dug his own hole. Plus Mangini quit his livelihood to fill in the spot as well
    KeinanM
    So what this article tells me is somewhere we were lied to, cause if you look at previous articles you see that Mike Mangini wasnt select till about a week and a half ago yet this article says he quit his job and was recording with them back when Mike Portnoy asked to comeback, in January if I remember correctly. And they told Mike P. that no he couldn't come back cause Mike M. quit his job to join them, so in the end someone somewhere is lying to us.
    Rimfrost
    KeinanM wrote: So what this article tells me is somewhere we were lied to, cause if you look at previous articles you see that Mike Mangini wasnt select till about a week and a half ago yet this article says he quit his job and was recording with them back when Mike Portnoy asked to comeback, in January if I remember correctly. And they told Mike P. that no he couldn't come back cause Mike M. quit his job to join them, so in the end someone somewhere is lying to us.
    I think they recorded that video a long time. I could be wrong, but its a logical explanation.
    b_flo
    Yep, even though I consider Mike Portnoy as one of the greatest drummers, it was right was DT did. Mike Mangini gave up his profession, at Berklee (which might have been filled already) and all the financial benefits that came with it. That would certainly affect his family situation.
    goon316
    Mike has been with the band for quite awhile, those video;s were just to announce it. I believe they have pretty much already finished the new record at this point as well which was why so many fans were wondering why it was taking so long to announce the new drummer.
    rafey
    or the triangle. Triangle Solo! (from the Foo Fighters Wembley DVD)
    Holoogamooga
    Rimfrost wrote: KeinanM wrote: So what this article tells me is somewhere we were lied to, cause if you look at previous articles you see that Mike Mangini wasnt select till about a week and a half ago yet this article says he quit his job and was recording with them back when Mike Portnoy asked to comeback, in January if I remember correctly. And they told Mike P. that no he couldn't come back cause Mike M. quit his job to join them, so in the end someone somewhere is lying to us. I think they recorded that video a long time. I could be wrong, but its a logical explanation.
    They recorded the auditions back in October when they happened, chose Mangini and informed him a few weeks later, and then Portnoy asked to rejoin. I've been saying for months that they couldn't let MP back in because they'd already found a replacement; this proves it. Definitely looking forward to the new album. They're almost finished recording for it, and they're planning on a September release (as stated in the linked interview). Should be awesome.
    TheBoctor
    The "Mike Mangini's life changed dramatically" link takes you back to this page. It's very helpful.
    ATREYUFAN4LIFE
    Well it's his fault for not joining A7x when he had the chance. Now that A7x has their new drummer and so does Dream Theatre he's kinda out of luck right now lol
    T3HM3T4L
    ""After we got off the phone with him, when he told us what was going to happen, that he was leaving... I literally sat on the steps of my studio and cried. This is a guy who's a friend of mine, who we all love and admire. We didn't want to see it come crashing down."" Didn't they pretty much force him to leave after he asked to take a break from the band to relax for a while and didn't get it?
    everjump
    pineaple expres wrote: Jasonbts wrote: They should let him rejoin and make him play cowbell more cowbell!!!!!
    ninjagayden777
    Wtf is a "regret attempt"? Grammar Nazi-ism aside, I agree. Mike made his decision, and should stick with it. Hope the new guy can deliver though; those are some massive shoes he has to fill.
    Holoogamooga
    T3HM3T4L wrote: ""After we got off the phone with him, when he told us what was going to happen, that he was leaving... I literally sat on the steps of my studio and cried. This is a guy who's a friend of mine, who we all love and admire. We didn't want to see it come crashing down."" Didn't they pretty much force him to leave after he asked to take a break from the band to relax for a while and didn't get it?
    Yeah, that confused me too. All other reports have at least implied they were in person when it went down.
    ATREYUFAN4LIFE wrote: Well it's his fault for not joining A7x when he had the chance. Now that A7x has their new drummer and so does Dream Theatre he's kinda out of luck right now lol
    MP offered to stay with A7X last December and they turned him down, saying his contract was up.
    scawti
    Didn't they pretty much force him to leave after he asked to take a break from the band to relax for a while and didn't get it?
    He wanted to take 5 or more years off to do other projects and the other 4, after already giving him time to do A7X, disagreed.
    shredder3386
    T3HM3T4L wrote: ""After we got off the phone with him, when he told us what was going to happen, that he was leaving... I literally sat on the steps of my studio and cried. This is a guy who's a friend of mine, who we all love and admire. We didn't want to see it come crashing down."" Didn't they pretty much force him to leave after he asked to take a break from the band to relax for a while and didn't get it?
    No thats not what happened at all. Read the facts before you speculate, this is how rumors get started. MP asked the band to take a LONG break (5 years is what Rudess said) and the band said they didn't want to take a break. MP left the band after that saying he was "taking one for the team" and bowing out (when really he was at the height of his stint in AX7 and had just hit billboard #1). Regardless of his reasons he was the one who told DT he was leaving and in my opinion DT is totally justified by telling him he can't come back after MP came to regret his hasty decision.
    vikkyvik
    T3HM3T4L wrote: ""After we got off the phone with him, when he told us what was going to happen, that he was leaving... I literally sat on the steps of my studio and cried. This is a guy who's a friend of mine, who we all love and admire. We didn't want to see it come crashing down."" Didn't they pretty much force him to leave after he asked to take a break from the band to relax for a while and didn't get it?
    They didn't force him to leave. He wanted to take a break; they didn't. He quit. They found a new drummer. Nothing wrong with either party's decision(s) in my opinion.