Ex-Metallica Bassist Says Mustaine Was 'Dissing' Him In Interviews

Ex-Metallica bassist Ron McGovney has slammed his former bandmate Dave Mustaine for "dissing" him in interviews.

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According to Blabbermouth.net, ex-Metallica bassist Ron McGovney has slammed his former bandmate, ex-Metallica guitarist and current Megadeth frontman Dave Mustaine, for "dissing" him in interviews and "minimizing" McGovney's contributions to Metallica.

Mustaine and McGovney joined Metallica on stage on December 10, 2011 for the fourth and final intimate show at the Fillmore in San Francisco as part of the group's week-long celebration of its 30th anniversary as a band for fan club members only (see video below).

Mustaine, who was one of the original members of Metallica, was fired from the band by drummer Lars Ulrich in 1983. He was replaced by Kirk Hammett and went on to form Megadeth and achieve worldwide success on his own.

Earlier this month, Mustaine was asked by noted conspiracy theorist Alex Jones what it was like to perform with Metallica again more than 25 years after he was fired from the band. "It's very cathartic, what took place," Mustaine replied. "When we started off, it was three guys that, we didn't know what we were gonna do. We just loved playing together, we loved fast and heavy music. If you would have told us we [were going to] change the world and that every guitar-playing kid from here to Timbuktu would be playing my style of guitar playing, I would have said you were out of your mind. But that's how it started. We were a three-piece - James [Hetfield] sang, I played guitar, Lars drummed and we had a bass player at the time that we changed for Cliff Burton, who we really wanted."

Writing on his official Facebook page late on Monday, March 19, McGovney addressed Mustaine's comments by saying, "I really don't understand why a certain former lead guitar player of a band that I played bass in still disses me in interviews. Saying that they were a 'three-piece' is just ridiculous."

He added, "I thought we got along well when we saw each other in December. We even shared a dressing room.

"He can minimize my contribution to the band all he wants. Sometimes he doesn't even mention my name. What he needs to realize is that he came to MY garage to try out for this band. The first song he learned was a song that the singer and I had already played in a previous band. He even got kicked out of the band when I was still a member, even though it only lasted a couple of days.

"I wish he would just tell the whole story if he is going to talk about that part of his career."

In a 2004 interview with AllMetallica.com, McGovney stated about his time with Metallica, "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. We also did Diamond Head covers: 'The Prince', 'Sucking My Love', 'Am I Evil', and 'Helpless'. We covered 'Blitzkrieg' by Blitzkrieg, 'Let It Loose' by Savage and 'Killing Time' by Sweet Savage. All of those songs can be found on bootlegs, but I have a practice tape of us doing some of those songs. I am going to put a copy up on eBay soon. I did do some arranging of the songs, but I was never credited with anything. I played at least 28 gigs with the band in the first year."

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    MonsterOfRock
    Mustaine was one of the reasons for him quitting. Legend has it that Mustaine poured beer on his bass which led to him getting a shock from the pickups (which incidentally was one of the final straws for Mustaine). So I don't think he'd be too fond of Mustaine. I don't think hes trying to mooch off of Metallica's fame here, he could've done it a long time ago. Mustaine, as good a guitarist he is, has always been a bitter person. Even now, as much as he'd like to claim that he is 'reborn'.
    jordo246
    As far as I know Ron never did much of anything apart from play gigs with them, when Mustaine says "3 guys" I think he means 3 guys who shared the same love for music, mcgovney obviously didn't have that.
    Battman1993
    First off, **** Alex Jones. He's a ****ing wanker and a quack doctor. Secondly, **** Dave Mustaine. I hate how he's suddenly the world's biggest dick after finding God. And unfortunately this religion and Alex Jones bullshit is starting to creep into his lyrics. I can't listen to Megadeth anymore. I have no problem with true peaceful Christians, it's the zealous judgmental Evangelicals like Mustaine who piss me off.
    Zombow
    It's funny how a basic Facebook status made by Ron suddently get's turned into an whole Blabbermouth article... I do understand why he is a bit ''bitter'' about this case. I mean, if it wasn't for Mcgovney, Metallica would probably not be the same. He was a key factor in Metallica's early years and he helped making the sound that Metallica later introduced in Kill'em All. He totally deserves credits for what he have done with Metallica. Mustaine was quite rude for not even mentioning his name, but of course, this is not really a serious case, I bet this case will be forgotten in a couple of weeks... But then again. Weird how an facebook status suddently get's turned into an whole article...
    acdc51502112
    LOL this dude is pissed because they're not treating him like he did anything, when he very well did. When you minimize anyone that just shows your own insecurities. Mustaine has been just a boon for so long, and so is Lars and the lot of them. You need a bit of an ego, but come on just denying that the other guy was even there is just ****ing childish. Go finish highschool kids.
    HeavyMetalSonic
    Oh, piss on McGovney. He was the one that didn't care enough about metal to carry on with them. I wouldn't mention his ass either.
    Rattlehead2
    He even got kicked out of the band when I was still a member, even though it only lasted a couple of days.
    Rattlehead2 wrote: Wasn't McGovney kicked before Mustaine? Dave played with Cliff after all.
    metallica-#1 wrote: I believe he means Dave was kicked out once before while Ron was still in the band, but returned to the band 3 days later. Then the "beer on the bass" incident happened and Ron quit
    You must be right. I've read this as "when Dave was kicked (permanently) I was still in a band, though it didn't last too long".
    metallica-#1
    "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band.
    I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All
    mandudehey
    i love how they dont even put his name in the headline even though its about him feeling that hes not getting full recognition
    Denjario
    Wisthler wrote: Go cry to a church idiot.
    He is whining to Dave Mustaine, I think that counts
    caseharr33
    Mustain is a complete born again tool, anything he says reminds me of a Saying, Jesus is an alright guy, its just his fans that are totally ****ed up. I really wish he would have died off instead of Burton, Rhodes, or hell just about anyone else.
    slaygod666
    dang u know dave is still butthurt over his exit in the band...ron just now saying his part in the band is a good story here i see because when have u read anything from him all these years? i would like to hear his personal recordings from those days gone by.
    Wisthler
    "He can minimize my contribution to the band all he wants. Sometimes he doesn't even mention my name." First I think Even the entire big four has to go to Metallica's wikipedia to say "Oh that guy was there before cliff" Second, nobody can see any contribution from your part, since on the early days without mustaine, Lars and James wrote the shit, then Mustaine added some of his work prior his kick. "What he needs to realize is that he came to MY garage to try out for this band." After you had a grudge with Mustaine which he kick your ass in the process, you kicked the entire band out of YOUR garage and you left the band ON YOUR OWN, they decided between you and dave, and they picked dave. "He even got kicked out of the band when I was still a member, even though it only lasted a couple of days." He kicked your ass and got kicked out of the band for one or a couple of days, then you left the band on your own. Go and take photos for living, you picked that way of life, nobody held a gun on your head and forced you to do that, in that time when metal was having a shitload of revolution, you could have joined into another band Ron. Go cry to a church idiot.
    Hetfield47
    I really would love to hear that tape. I wonder how much itll sell for? F it ill wait till its on youtube! Ron quit being butthurt and be happy you are apart of metal history!
    Scary Guy
    Wisthler wrote: "He can minimize my contribution to the band all he wants. Sometimes he doesn't even mention my name." First I think Even the entire big four has to go to Metallica's wikipedia to say "Oh that guy was there before cliff" Second, nobody can see any contribution from your part, since on the early days without mustaine, Lars and James wrote the shit, then Mustaine added some of his work prior his kick. "What he needs to realize is that he came to MY garage to try out for this band." After you had a grudge with Mustaine which he kick your ass in the process, you kicked the entire band out of YOUR garage and you left the band ON YOUR OWN, they decided between you and dave, and they picked dave. "He even got kicked out of the band when I was still a member, even though it only lasted a couple of days." He kicked your ass and got kicked out of the band for one or a couple of days, then you left the band on your own. Go and take photos for living, you picked that way of life, nobody held a gun on your head and forced you to do that, in that time when metal was having a shitload of revolution, you could have joined into another band Ron. Go cry to a church idiot.
    FAIL.
    Scary Guy
    Scary Guy wrote: metalhead983877 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All Thats a good question, they were all written in his garage except for Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco. When James and Lars moved to San Fran they got Burton and replaced Mustaine just before tracking the album. wasnt a question, i was just stating the inaccuracy of Ron's statement of him saying all the songs on Kill 'Em All were written in his Garage Man u ppl are rude/dumb. Your statement is wrong not Ron's. That album was completed and considered an album in Ron's garage buddy. Like i said the other tracks added later plus 'Pulling Teeth' is a ****in instrumental so technically its not a song...and thats not a question im just stating the inaccuracy of YOUR statement! Ahaha.. You think because it's an instrumental it's not a song? Take note fellow UG'ers, according to SCARY GUY, your song needs lyrics in order to be called a song, sorry Beethoven Well it didn't take the whole band to write it its ****in drums and bass its not like orion u dumbass. Basically its just a welcome to the band..... here have a spot on our album. Compared to the overall tone/attitude of the album its not a song more like an interlude between songs. Yes Beethoven and real instrumentals are compositional pieces not ****in ....songs! So you are saying instrumentals are not songs, but then you say that Orion is a song? FAIL When did i say that you ****in idiot! I just said Pulling teeth isn't like orion as it is only bass and drums but show me where i said orion is a song (why don't u highlight that oh u can't FAIL). Pulling teeth is a "welcome to the band" and orion was done by the whole band not just bass and drums. i never stated it wasn't a song learn how to read before opening your mouth! It is an instumental by the whole band a compositional piece!
    When did i say that you ****in idiot! I just said Pulling teeth isn't like orion as it is only bass and drums but show me where i said orion is a song (why don't u highlight that oh u can't FAIL). Pulling teeth is a "welcome to the band" and orion was done by the whole band not just bass and drums. i never stated it was a song learn how to read before opening your mouth! It is an instumental by the whole band a compositional piece!
    Scary Guy
    metalhead983877 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All Thats a good question, they were all written in his garage except for Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco. When James and Lars moved to San Fran they got Burton and replaced Mustaine just before tracking the album. wasnt a question, i was just stating the inaccuracy of Ron's statement of him saying all the songs on Kill 'Em All were written in his Garage Man u ppl are rude/dumb. Your statement is wrong not Ron's. That album was completed and considered an album in Ron's garage buddy. Like i said the other tracks added later plus 'Pulling Teeth' is a ****in instrumental so technically its not a song...and thats not a question im just stating the inaccuracy of YOUR statement! Ahaha.. You think because it's an instrumental it's not a song? Take note fellow UG'ers, according to SCARY GUY, your song needs lyrics in order to be called a song, sorry Beethoven Well it didn't take the whole band to write it its ****in drums and bass its not like orion u dumbass. Basically its just a welcome to the band..... here have a spot on our album. Compared to the overall tone/attitude of the album its not a song more like an interlude between songs. Yes Beethoven and real instrumentals are compositional pieces not ****in ....songs! So you are saying instrumentals are not songs, but then you say that Orion is a song? FAIL
    When did i say that you ****in idiot! I just said Pulling teeth isn't like orion as it is only bass and drums but show me where i said orion is a song (why don't u highlight that oh u can't FAIL). Pulling teeth is a "welcome to the band" and orion was done by the whole band not just bass and drums. i never stated it wasn't a song learn how to read before opening your mouth! It is an instumental by the whole band a compositional piece!
    metalhead983877
    Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All Thats a good question, they were all written in his garage except for Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco. When James and Lars moved to San Fran they got Burton and replaced Mustaine just before tracking the album. wasnt a question, i was just stating the inaccuracy of Ron's statement of him saying all the songs on Kill 'Em All were written in his Garage Man u ppl are rude/dumb. Your statement is wrong not Ron's. That album was completed and considered an album in Ron's garage buddy. Like i said the other tracks added later plus 'Pulling Teeth' is a ****in instrumental so technically its not a song... and thats not a question im just stating the inaccuracy of YOUR statement! Ahaha.. You think because it's an instrumental it's not a song? Take note fellow UG'ers, according to SCARY GUY, your song needs lyrics in order to be called a song, sorry Beethoven Well it didn't take the whole band to write it its ****in drums and bass its not like orion u dumbass. Basically its just a welcome to the band..... here have a spot on our album. Compared to the overall tone/attitude of the album its not a song more like an interlude between songs. Yes Beethoven and real instrumentals are compositional pieces not ****in ....songs!
    So you are saying instrumentals are not songs, but then you say that Orion is a song? FAIL
    meganewt
    Its funny to see all these Mustaine haters. Seriously how can you dis on a guy that you would trade places with in a split second? If you deny that lets see... Killer musician, accomplished, rich, tours the world, lives life on his own terms and has a HOT wife. What more could one want?
    Scary Guy
    metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All Thats a good question, they were all written in his garage except for Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco. When James and Lars moved to San Fran they got Burton and replaced Mustaine just before tracking the album. wasnt a question, i was just stating the inaccuracy of Ron's statement of him saying all the songs on Kill 'Em All were written in his Garage Man u ppl are rude/dumb. Your statement is wrong not Ron's. That album was completed and considered an album in Ron's garage buddy. Like i said the other tracks added later plus 'Pulling Teeth' is a ****in instrumental so technically its not a song...and thats not a question im just stating the inaccuracy of YOUR statement! Ahaha.. You think because it's an instrumental it's not a song? Take note fellow UG'ers, according to SCARY GUY, your song needs lyrics in order to be called a song, sorry Beethoven
    What a gay name .... hey guys.....im "metallica-#1" LOL
    Scary Guy
    metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All Thats a good question, they were all written in his garage except for Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco. When James and Lars moved to San Fran they got Burton and replaced Mustaine just before tracking the album. wasnt a question, i was just stating the inaccuracy of Ron's statement of him saying all the songs on Kill 'Em All were written in his Garage Man u ppl are rude/dumb. Your statement is wrong not Ron's. That album was completed and considered an album in Ron's garage buddy. Like i said the other tracks added later plus 'Pulling Teeth' is a ****in instrumental so technically its not a song...and thats not a question im just stating the inaccuracy of YOUR statement! Ahaha.. You think because it's an instrumental it's not a song? Take note fellow UG'ers, according to SCARY GUY, your song needs lyrics in order to be called a song, sorry Beethoven
    Well it didn't take the whole band to write it its ****in drums and bass its not like orion u dumbass. Basically its just a welcome to the band..... here have a spot on our album. Compared to the overall tone/attitude of the album its not a song more like an interlude between songs. Yes Beethoven and real instrumentals are compositional pieces not ****in ....songs!
    metallica-#1
    Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All Thats a good question, they were all written in his garage except for Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco. When James and Lars moved to San Fran they got Burton and replaced Mustaine just before tracking the album. wasnt a question, i was just stating the inaccuracy of Ron's statement of him saying all the songs on Kill 'Em All were written in his Garage Man u ppl are rude/dumb. Your statement is wrong not Ron's. That album was completed and considered an album in Ron's garage buddy. Like i said the other tracks added later plus 'Pulling Teeth' is a ****in instrumental so technically its not a song ...and thats not a question im just stating the inaccuracy of YOUR statement!
    Ahaha.. You think because it's an instrumental it's not a song? Take note fellow UG'ers, according to SCARY GUY, your song needs lyrics in order to be called a song, sorry Beethoven
    Scary Guy
    metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All Thats a good question, they were all written in his garage except for Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco. When James and Lars moved to San Fran they got Burton and replaced Mustaine just before tracking the album. wasnt a question, i was just stating the inaccuracy of Ron's statement of him saying all the songs on Kill 'Em All were written in his Garage
    Man u ppl are rude/dumb. Your statement is wrong not Ron's. That album was completed and considered an album in Ron's garage buddy. Like i said the other tracks added later plus 'Pulling Teeth' is a ****in instrumental so technically its not a song...and thats not a question im just stating the inaccuracy of YOUR statement!
    Birdy266
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    Scary Guy
    metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All
    Yeah the INSTRUMENTAL Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco doesn't change the fact that all of the 'songs' on the album were written in his garage. All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in his garage!!!
    metallica-#1
    Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All Thats a good question, they were all written in his garage except for Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco. When James and Lars moved to San Fran they got Burton and replaced Mustaine just before tracking the album.
    wasnt a question, i was just stating the inaccuracy of Ron's statement of him saying all the songs on Kill 'Em All were written in his Garage
    DaniArrow
    Seriously? Who actually cares about anything Metallica did before Kill em All was released? The pope could have been playing Guitar in that Ex-Bass-Players garage, what do I care.
    Scary Guy
    metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All
    Thats a good question, they were all written in his garage except for Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco. When James and Lars moved to San Fran they got Burton and replaced Mustaine just before tracking the album.
    metallica-#1
    Rattlehead2 wrote: He even got kicked out of the band when I was still a member, even though it only lasted a couple of days. Wasn't McGovney kicked before Mustaine? Dave played with Cliff after all.
    I believe he means Dave was kicked out once before while Ron was still in the band, but returned to the band 3 days later. Then the "beer on the bass" incident happened and Ron quit
    scawti
    The ironic thing is what Dave said about Ron M. is actually pretty nice for an ex-bandmate of his... Dave doesn't 'subtlety' insult anyone - he alright says it. Another someone trying for another 15 min of fame.
    Rattlehead2
    He even got kicked out of the band when I was still a member, even though it only lasted a couple of days.
    Wasn't McGovney kicked before Mustaine? Dave played with Cliff after all.
    Epi g-310
    MonsterOfRock wrote: Mustaine, as good a guitarist he is, has always been a bitter person. Even now, as much as he'd like to claim that he is 'reborn'.
    That's "born again." It's a ridiculous perversion of Christianity, and just about as absurd as it sounds.
    Scary Guy
    Scary Guy wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metalhead983877 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: Scary Guy wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: "All of the songs that are found on [Metallica's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' were written in my garage and we played all of them when I was in the band. I know I'm knit-picking but, "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" is on Kill 'Em All Thats a good question, they were all written in his garage except for Anesthesia which Burton added before tracking the album in San Francisco. When James and Lars moved to San Fran they got Burton and replaced Mustaine just before tracking the album. wasnt a question, i was just stating the inaccuracy of Ron's statement of him saying all the songs on Kill 'Em All were written in his Garage Man u ppl are rude/dumb. Your statement is wrong not Ron's. That album was completed and considered an album in Ron's garage buddy. Like i said the other tracks added later plus 'Pulling Teeth' is a ****in instrumental so technically its not a song...and thats not a question im just stating the inaccuracy of YOUR statement! Ahaha.. You think because it's an instrumental it's not a song? Take note fellow UG'ers, according to SCARY GUY, your song needs lyrics in order to be called a song, sorry Beethoven Well it didn't take the whole band to write it its ****in drums and bass its not like orion u dumbass. Basically its just a welcome to the band..... here have a spot on our album. Compared to the overall tone/attitude of the album its not a song more like an interlude between songs. Yes Beethoven and real instrumentals are compositional pieces not ****in ....songs! So you are saying instrumentals are not songs, but then you say that Orion is a song? FAIL When did i say that you ****in idiot! I just said Pulling teeth isn't like orion as it is only bass and drums but show me where i said orion is a song (why don't u highlight that oh u can't FAIL). Pulling teeth is a "welcome to the band" and orion was done by the whole band not just bass and drums. i never stated it wasn't a song learn how to read before opening your mouth! It is an instumental by the whole band a compositional piece! When did i say that you ****in idiot! I just said Pulling teeth isn't like orion as it is only bass and drums but show me where i said orion is a song (why don't u highlight that oh u can't FAIL). Pulling teeth is a "welcome to the band" and orion was done by the whole band not just bass and drums. i never stated it was a song learn how to read before opening your mouth! It is an instumental by the whole band a compositional piece!
    Don't put words in my mouth u little tool come on the and highlight where i said orion is a song.....oh u cant.....FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL learn how to FUCKIN read!