Ian Watkins Denies Baby Rape Charges

The Lostprophets frontman has vowed to clear his name for 24 shocking sex offences which he denies.

Ian Watkins Denies Baby Rape Charges
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Lostprophets frontman Ian Watkins has appeared in court to deny 24 sex offence charges that involve children, and has vowed to clear his name. The 35-year-old was arrested in December last year with shocking allegations that he conspired to rape a one-year-old girl. Now details of his charges have been revealed, which include two of raping a baby, conspiracy to rape another child, assault, aiding other assault, and more of making indecent images, according to the BBC. A 24th charge is for possession of extreme pornographic images involving an animal. The alleged offences date back to 2007. At a court hearing this week, Watkins only spoke to confirm his identity. A statement from him was read outside which said: "I want to thank my family, friends and all the fans for their continued support throughout this whole ordeal. Your support gives me strength, I deny all the allegations made against me and will continue to fight to the end to clear my name." Watkins will next appear in court on Thursday.

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    chandos
    People from Wales are a different story...
    Nero Galon
    Thats not true
    fromzero
    And that is why british people have bad teeth. One nation under gnikcuf ttub amen.
    fromzero
    What? It's a Deftones song... British people get mad butt hurtings on this site, especially when you hate on pedophiles... So many post's with up votes for anyone defending it as sexuality rather than mental illness. I guess I would do the same so that I didn't feel bad about being a filthy slimy pervert too, if I was one. Down vote if you like kiddie porn & want to have sex with babies!!!
    Thrash115
    24 charges... holy crap
    fromzero
    If your penis was as small as his, having sex with a 1 year old would be the only way that you could cum too... I know mine is.
    DifferentWorld
    He does?! What?!
    Riggy
    Innocent until proven guilty eh? Clearly don't have time for that. EDIT Totally meant to reply to the comment below.
    spiff-corgi
    Seems an awful lot of allegations for it to not be true. I guess we'll see how it pans out.
    coco-loco
    After writing a huge post about me feeling bad for him, I'll put it plainly- I hope that the truth comes out of this and that he meets his rightful fate whatever that may be.
    Smegal
    Okay let me get this sorted. He has been CHARGED with CONSPIRACY to rape a 1 year old child. The act is dispicable but two things about this are very keep so i capsed them. To be charged is not to be guilty of, and conspiracy means they believe based upon some form of testimony which itself is inadmissable thus they put conspiracy. I disagree with naming him without solid evidence, and espeically before a jury reached a verdict on it. His name has been destroyed now, even if found innocent of all charges (Unlikely because people will always assume the police had enough reason to believe it and it being such an emotional act they accuse of), he will always be seen as the guy that did it and got away with it. The ONLY reason they would have to name and shame him before a verdict is to get people to speak out about him doing stuff, meaning they have weak evidence at best. Before you go around flaming him for raping a baby consider these points.
    duncang
    It would betray the core principles of open justice if defendants were only named once a verdict was reached. Can you imagine the types of abuse the legal system would be open to if nobody was allowed to know what was going on in a court case until it was over? Your last assertion is utter rubbish. All adult defendants are named (not 'shamed') in UK courts, unless naming them would lead to the identification of a victim or witness granted anonymity. Choosing not to name defendants is the exception rather than the rule, and it's certainly not up to the prosecution as you seem to suggest. I could be wrong but I don't think they've made any appeal for witnesses. And even if they have, that fact alone does not infer anything about his guilt or lack of it - believe it or not, it's incredibly tough to speak out about rape and child abuse. Not everyone will readily come forward. That doesn't mean he did or didn't do it. Either way, magistrates have deemed the evidence sufficiently valid to go ahead with trial. If there wasn't enough evidence that he *may* have done it, and they needed to appeal for more, then he wouldn't have been charged. (EDIT: slash_rocks, while the same principles do apply in America, this case is taking place in Britain)
    Smegal
    I have sufficient knowledge of the legal system. I just disagree with core principals. The media is something that is a double edged sword. In cases where there is a high profile act there should be anonymity until the verdict is reached because releasing the info compromises the jury. Allow me to explain this in case you don't understand what I mean. By releasing his name and stating he is being charged with this highly emotional crime, it will become a very well known case, people will judge from the public reaction which is always going to be "He should rot in jail for this". Because of this fact there can be no fair jury. A jury must be comprised of people who are impartial and who have no already pre-determined guilt or lack of. And btw it is up to the police to release the information. They could use a court injunction against the media to blockade the forced naming. So once again i reiterate, I believe the only reason they had to name him was to encourage those to step forward. (Which is a common practice in regards to rape cases btw)
    duncang
    I don't think the potential for prejudice is much more serious here than when anyone is accused of horrendous crimes like this. When someone - famous or not - is put before you charged with rape, child abuse, murder etc then our natural instinct is to assume guilty, with or without media coverage. The judge then does all he or she can direct the jury towards fairness by telling them only to consider the evidence put before them in court. That's all that can be done unfortunately. Secret justice opens up countless opportunities for abuse and we should think very, very seriously before attempting to impose it. I should also point out that he faces two charges of raping a child himself, so your point on conspiracy is invalid.
    Smegal
    The original charges were of conspiracy, everything after that fact is attached from the initial charge which would have been their strongest at the time. Given this info i will only take the original charges under consideration. I am not saying secret justice, i'm saying delayed reveal until the verdict is reached then announce it. You are saying it like people will evade justice if their name is not strictly revealed which is invalid. Justice is carried out irregardless but to reveal high profile names in high profile cases will invalidate the validity of a fair court because people will enter having already determined from hearsay their opinions. A court is devised to allow only evidence, which is abused in trial sometimes but a damn sight better than people pre-judging based on trolls saying he definately did it. I will not be suprised if he is found guilty at this point irregardless of wether he did it or not. My point isn't that he did or didn;t do it but of how it was handled. I believe the validity of any trial he will face is comprimised because unlike everyone else involved in this case they decided to reveal his name publically, which I believe they did to encourage any possible offended partys to come forward, but with high profile cases people will come forward who have nothing to do with it. THAT is also why i am only ever going to take their initial charges into concideration.
    Lansel0t
    Personally I've never understood the practice of releasing the names of suspects to the public in the US and UK for example. I guess it's for the same reason as why the US has juries, for public involvement and knowledge. Still, it's a system that's ridiculously outdated. It's basically stuck on the Roman level of dragging suspects to the public forum to be condemned or released by the public (or whoever could buy the public on their side).
    Smegal
    I agree. I understand the theory of it, people need to know who is being tried for crimes... But people don't need to know at all. Think of it this way. He will never be able to escape the stigma anymore. Wether he is innocent or not his name is now linked strongly with the accusation. They had no reason to publically announce his name short of hunting for evidence off the public which is also a source that cannot be fully trusted due to the fame and damages aspect. But as I said I understand the why. People believe that if all names are obscured then the big bad politicians will get away with everything, but that is not the case. But I think more concerning is that people have been tried for MURDER under worse things, the Jill Dando case for example, the evidence was contaminated and they still made out that he did it. They tampered with his stuff to make him look worse and so on. Only after over a decade in prison did they finally clear him of the charges. But the reason he was tried under that impossible evidence is because it was made high profile and the public (Vast majority of em) at the time were sure of his guilt because everyone was saying he did it, and that what he did was wrong,never considering the possibility they were wrong.
    slash_rocks2005
    "The ONLY reason they would have to name and shame him before a verdict is to get people to speak out about him doing stuff, meaning they have weak evidence at best." apparently you don't know how the american legal system works. the public is entitled to know about everyone who has been arrested and charged. i'm not saying i don't agree with how his name is soiled whether he's guilty or not, but it's not b/c of 'weak evidence' that his name is out there. it's out there b/c police HAVE to release that info, unless it's an ongoing investigation that will be compromised by releasing such info. and what makes you think a testimony is inadmissable? brush up on your knowledge of the court system, you made good points but a couple inaccurate statements.
    Aidy Gerrard`
    why dont you brush up on the story? He's a welsh singer being tried in the UK....nothing to do with the US legal system...but thanks for playing.
    THE BULGE
    My main issue with this case is there are two women involved and being charged but the details on them is scarce and their identity is being protected perhaps through a plea bargain etc. So it is possible Watkins is being dragged through this. I do also think 24 charges is a lot to deny but if they are all from the same source he could still be innocent. More importantly though is the fact I'm assuming here but it seems that children have been harmed and that sickens me.
    Hamburger89
    There are just as much female pedophiles as males, but they just know how to get away with it, just like now.
    BriR0049
    This will probably get downvoted. I just don't get why the article has 100% dislike. Nobody knows yet whether he's innocent or guilty so it's a bit silly for someone to go, "He denies the charges...but he must be guilty *dislike*" That's not to say that he is innocent, if he's found guilty he can most certainly rot in prison.
    Gerard Way Jr
    Could just be 6 people disliking because they don't want him to be guilty.
    Rockeagle540
    Well, Ian aside for a minute, an article suggesting a baby being raped, innocent or guilty, i believe that the article in itself is very disturbing
    fromzero
    Plus when you get charged with 24 things one of them would have to stick... Maybe he was jaywalking when they arrested him and he happened to drop his coffee when they said show us your hands so he got a littering charge too...
    travislausch
    Innocent people don't get so many charges against them? That explains all the wrongful executions and incarcerations of innocent people over the years, right? The sad thing is, even if he's completely innocent, his name is destroyed forever. He'll never be able to recover from it. If he's guilty, he's a monster of a human being. But until the evidence is shown and he's sentenced for it, that's all it is: an if.
    freebeer1976
    I thought the sad thing was raped babies.....
    Lansel0t
    It's a little weird to be sad for an imaginary raped baby (because as far as I understood this story no one actually raped a baby, just conspired to)
    Matzliah
    Who the hell rapes a baby?! that makes no sense, how could a person be sexually stimulated by a goddamn one year old? rot in prison you prick.
    spiff-corgi
    This is why I'll never watch A Serbian Film...
    JohnnySavich
    im a serbian and i never watched that film...
    spiff-corgi
    I'm a human being and I'll never watch that film...
    Comeback Kiddd
    F*** that bitch when I asked her to recommend me some good horror movies. I was also recommended donkey punch but I didn't bother to try to watch that. No sir
    kLeft
    Holy hell I just read the plot on Wiki, films don't get much darker than that do they? The sad thing is it kinda does sound like it was well conceptualized at parts, if it wasn't so damn extremely f*cked up. I mean, that last scene sounds like M. Knight Shamalam if he was a Nazi-doctor PCP addict.
    Rafa88offspring
    I'd recommend it if you like sick, twisted black comedy. It's not a bad film in terms of storytelling, by the way.
    Rafa88offspring
    haha come on, it's a pretty funny film. It's very different to have a shock-gore black comedy and to actually commit any of those horrible (to say the least) crimes.
    BjarnedeGraaf
    If he turns out to be innocent you are going to look like a dumbass.
    MERKlN
    Innocent people don't get these sorts of allegations pitted against them? He did something wrong its just a matter of finding out to what degree now.
    Fusionxtreme88
    Actually, as a Criminology student I've learned that wrongful convictions and accusations happen far more often than I'm comfortable with. But once they have been accused the stigma against them never goes away even if it has been proved they are innocent. Now, I'm not saying he's innocent or anything - I have no idea. Just saying just because he's been accused does not mean he's immediately guilty.
    yaronbeery
    do you understand the importance of someone, no matter how evil and what he is charged with, being innocent, until proven otherwise? when he is convicted, if he will be, he will be entitled to any sort of condemnation there is, but let them convict him first.
    7s1ll4gk4pU
    innocent ppl might get blamed for such amount and so serulious s crimes the same reason because one might think it is impossible that such extreme stuff could be made up look up history books
    MERKlN
    besides the people in the history books your talking about have some sort of political significance. They're not baby/sheep rapers that front some crappy band no one really cares about.
    iommi600
    "They're not sheep rapers" It's funny because Ian is welsh. I wonder if he picks daffodils on Sunday too...
    MERKlN
    Holy crap! I just listen to one of their songs this dude is 100% guilty!
    Mind_Reader7
    I got taken to court once for rape charges. I'm a eunuch due to an accident at the age of 6. Was pretty lolzy on my behalf when I presented it as final evidence.
    Josher.K
    that's a solid defense. sorry to hear it but doesn't a eunuch just mean you have no testicles? pretty sure it's the d that's doing the rape.
    Lansel0t
    Actually rape doesnt necessarily even have to be performed with genitals. Being an eunuch is by no means a blanket defense for rape charges.
    MERKlN
    If he turns out to be guilty you are going to look like a dumbass.
    fromzero
    You did see that he has like 24 charges right? Sure, he's probably innocent on any actual baby raping because they're only charging him with conspiracy to rape a baby. Tim Lambesis is innocent for murdering his wife, that much we know. However, multiple counts of child pornography & bestiality are still serious offenses. R-Kelly was acquitted, do you think he's innocent? I'm not a prosecutor, I haven't seen the evidence but if this guy wasn't famous and couldn't afford a high profile lawyer he would probably already have a noose around his neck. I've faced charges in my life and been acquitted.. Fraud, theft, possession of marijuana and because of technicalities I had all charges dropped. I'm here to tell you that 1 charge can never guarantee guilt but 20+ is a pretty cut & dry sign that foul play is obvious but he will probably beat them. The legal system is a mess...
    MrKyran
    Sexual preference. Some people like older people, some like the opposite sex, some like the same sex. Some like children. Luckily quite a lot of the people who do like children know it is sick and twisted and absolutely refuse to ever give in. A 2002 peer reviewed paper by B.Mustanki, M. Chivers and J. Bailey suggests that pedophilia is a biological preference just like homosexuality. That doesn't make it right, but it just shows that some of these people don't have a choice.
    EyesWideOpen
    They may not have the choice of what they find sexually attractive. They do have the choice to act on that urge or not though.
    UniformRecon
    Exactly, just because I'm straight doesn't mean I go and fondle every girl I see. It's a matter of self-control.
    fromzero
    I'm sorry but sexual preference and mental illness are not the same and I read a peer reviewed paper that suggested that 'preferences' like this usually stem from exposure to sex at an early age rather than birth. The earth is flat, the earth is round, the earth is hollow with aliens living in the core... Hormones are good, hormones are bad. Gmo's are non-harmful, gmo's cause cancer. Corn syrup is the same as sugar, corn syrup causes diabetes. Vaccines prevent illness, vaccines cause illness... Science always has something to say and a counter argument while both can show data to support the theories... It's truly up to the reader to discern what they believe and who has the wording skills to make a better argument for things scientific.
    Gerard Way Jr
    While there is some oversimplified truth (preference for children being wired in at an early age due to trauma) to what you're saying, for the love of Christ, stop.
    suicidehummer
    Wow, I thought I was the only one that thought this. Even more surprised you actually got up-votes. I think, much like the drug war, the prosecution of pedophiles needs to be rethought. Simply making pictures illegal just punishes the ones who don't act on their feelings. I think the people they should be going after are the ones making the pictures.
    badfish_lewis
    They are going after the people who film these things. I get your point about people not acting on their urges but I hardly think it holds water. Lock both of them up for good; end of story. Too costly? Stop mandatory minimum sentencing for petty bullshit, that'll save money and make room
    suicidehummer
    I knew a 17yo kid who went to jail for having pictures on his cpu. He was a nice guy and I doubt he would have hurt anyone. Anyway, there should at least be a distinction between a 17yo with pictures of other 17yos and a 50yo with pictures of 5yos.
    pickslide94
    why does this comment have all down votes?
    fromzero
    Because when ever I say something negative about people who like children in a sexual way, UG'z go apespit. It's because it's a site filled with graduates of Hot Carling Academy.
    Gerard Way Jr
    I'm bothered both by the naivete and medical ignorance in this post.
    mattyp90
    Medical?
    Gerard Way Jr
    "Who the hell rapes a baby?! that makes no sense, how could a person be sexually stimulated by a goddamn one year old?" Where do I begin?
    Scarface88
    "Who the hell rapes a baby?! that makes no sense, how could a person be sexually stimulated by a goddamn one year old?" Where do I begin? With your point about medical ignorance, perhaps?
    BwareDWare94
    Unfortunately, with your avatar and name, I can't take you seriously.
    HardRock369
    Watch out, he's fragile. He might cry to the mods about "rating abuse" if you down vote his comment any more
    Gerard Way Jr
    No, but when you use 3 accounts to downvote contributions, I will. Enjoy your ban, HR369. The admin says hello.
    HardRock369
    lol that's quite a tall accusation, but you shouldn't flatter yourself so much, I wouldn't even consider wasting that much time on you.
    BwareDWare94
    What's the issue with downvotes? So far as I know, there's no Rep total anywhere to worry about and, therefore, people can't see your reputation and deem you a troll if it's negative.