Limp Bizkit: 'Today's Metal Is Saturated, Repetitive, Not Sure Anyone's Doing Anything'

"The older I get, the more I drift away from metal," says guitarist Wes Borland.

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Following their latest Sonisphere performance, Limp Bizkit sat down with NME to discuss a thing or two, touching on the current state of metal among other things.

Guitarist Wes Borland wasn't too enthusiastic while talking about the guitar-heavy genre, dubbing it saturated and repetitive these days.

"I don't really listen to a lot of rock and metal. Everything's pretty saturated with so much music now, it's difficult to keep up with what's happening," he kicked off.

"The older I get, I tend to drift away from listening to metal. In some way, it's just repetitive, and I'm not sure if anyone's doing anything incredibly different," Wes added.

During the rest of the chat, Borland and frontman Fred Durst talked about the new album progress, sharing seemingly clashing views regarding its release. "It'll be out next month, that's what we always say," Fred jokingly noted.

"More likely it'll be out next year," Wes chipped in. "No, it'll be out this year," Durst reassured. "We see the finish line ahead and we're really happy with how it feels and sound. It's unique, very different."

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    He's right and I blame metal fans. Every time a metal/hard rock band try something new a lot of fans cry and say it sucks so the band usually go back to the tried and tested usual stuff. Yes some experimentation doesn't always work but if people don't experiment how will new stuff come about
    Ne Obliviscaris.
    Exactly what I wanna tell to all those guys ranting about repetitive music.
    That crowdfunding campaign. (It's still going, too.)
    I am amazed that they raised so much money so quickly. I'd love to contribute, but I'm a little short on funds right now. I would definitely have gotten the tabs for Portal of I if I had gotten the chance.
    Ne obvliviscaris is extremely repetitive... I only had to listen to the album once to figure out there song-writing criteria. Start off with a drum fill or some fade in clean/string intro; Then blast in with guttural vocals, tremolo picking power chords and double kicks/blast beats for 10 ****ing minutes. Boringggg.... Show me a song where I am wrong.
    I do agree with him, metal is over saturated and not particularly inventive anymore. Not a popular stance I know but that's the way I see it. I think the turning point for metal is when the 'old' bands pack it in. When Metallica, Iron Maiden, Slayer, all of them have to call it quits I think (and hope) it will shake the scene up again - whos gonna headline festivals when those sorts of bands are gone - it will force a change.
    Mr Winters
    "I don't know any good band therefore there are no good bands" Will you people shut the fu ck up already.
    In metal, I listen mostly my favorites and classics bands but time to time I check out for new music. It's not that hard isn't? Anyway you can make up a good idea with the genre labeled on an album (never heard sophisticated and epic stuff from Limp Biskit for example)
    Jesus christ I'm tired of these rock dinosaurs expressing their "concern" with modern music when they OBVIOUSLY don't pay any attention to it.
    Whoever said Protest The Hero's not original really (and i'm going to use a cliche statement) understand there music. What's so cool about them is that they mainly incorporate Hardcore Punk and Progressive Metal, but in there new album I swear I hear some cool blend of classic rock in there, and they also mix some Metalcore. And they make some seriously cool licks and riffs on there guitar and they actually want to create music, learn more on their instrument and progress (no pun intended). They're one of a kind and you can't imitate them.
    Misleading title, again. He isn't slamming metal he's just saying that based on his own little spectrum of exposure he doesn't see anything ear catching to him. Completely okay to feel that way but this article is twisting the context of his words. Just saying.
    Every subgenre is saturated, but the few good bands in each one are what keeps the music alive. And actually, there are a lot of good bands, theyre just "few" compared to the overall amount of generic bands. And lots of great bands came out since 90s, or old bands that developed their music in the past decade and a half.
    How can you say that? These days, three people can sit together, each can claim to be a huge metalhead, yet they can listen to three types of totally different music. Repetitive? I think not.
    Yeah, but these days even someone who's only listened to like 5 of the most popular Metal bands likes to claim they're a huge Metalhead, so..
    The local music scene where i used to live was saturated with bands that ran off this one formula: -Singer can't sing, only screams -"Our Music is like the Metal from the Glory days, but with a new twist to it" -Play song by repeating a palm muted drop C for a few mins. Spam double bass pedal at all times. Whack cymbals when you feel like it-Scream things that don't make sense over the top -"We're super brutal and anyone that doesn't like our music is a mainstream *expletive* "Now that i've moved, the music scene where i am now is so much better. There's a lot more diversity, and not an open C in sight
    I'm glad to hear your music scene is alive and well where you are, it is pretty abissmal here in Baltimore. People use to come out to shows for the hell of it, but not anymore I feel like we have a pretty unique sound, but people could care less.
    Move to Southern California. I mean don't do that unless you have a really good reason to of course, but if you want at least one good reason, the scene here doesn't suck, even though the venues do, big time. Ok a lot of bands in the scene suck but the good ones justify it big time.
    What a horrible title, completely misrepresented what he was saying. Why are you guys putting things in quotes when they aren't actual quotes? Most of the people didn't even read the article and what he actually said.
    Wes, dude, I'm sorry mate that's just what getting older does. Newer, younger bands are not talentless and their music isn't rubbish. Your musical tastes don't change but music does so it's inevitable that when you're in your 40's the music those in their 20's are listening to you just wont get. It happens to us all no matter how much you try to resist it.
    Wes Borland gets the credit for being pretty original, but he's not listening hard enough. There is so much creative metal out there, though perhaps even more repetitive ones, but that's the nature of any genre.
    Has anyone mentioned the band HAVOK? These dudes are killer thrash metal. Municipal Waste and Iron Reagan are awesome too. Metal is not dead. You need to dig deep to find these awesome new bands. Go to the tiny shows and discover new music.
    Check out Vektor if you haven't. They are not just good Thrash Metal, they're innovative Thrash. They make Thrash like nobody's ever done before. Any of their songs make my point for me.
    Vektor is awesome dude! Glad I'm not the only one discovering these bands. Metal is alive and well my friend.
    Honestly, why bother getting your panties in a twist over what people who don't really listen to metal think about metal? It's a non issue. "I don't really listen to metal, but here are the reasons why I think metal is lacking", as if the first half of the statement doesn't invalidate the second. Good for you.
    Never been huge fan of theirs but if people who give so much crap to this band (maybe fred deserves it with his attitude) but their earlier albums have some very cool riffs and songs. They actually had alot energy and great ideas in their mind.
    I'm sick of these musicians slamming "today's" music. The problem is that they do not take in consideration the new bands. Just hang around Youtube and check Napalm Records or Nuclear Blast to spot some guys. This kind of topic is getting pretty damn stupid
    Metal's always been sorta homogenous and repetitive. So has jazz. So has pop. So has classical. So has pop. Polka. Samba. I mean it's not like it's anything new. So instead of bitching about how little variety one genre has, why not do yourselves a favour and listen to a bunch of different genres from different eras and quit being closed-minded? The world will be a lot better for it.
    Were you trying to list the genres that Mr Bungle and Between the Buried and Me cover? I dunno I don't think I need to listen to a bunch of different genres, since I don't like most of them anyways. It's not close-minded to be that way, music for me is a way to release my negative energy (being sad or angry or upset or frustrated, etc), and if a certain band or genre doesn't help me release that negative energy then I won't listen to it. I can't listen to music that does nothing for me and while I don't listen to Metal exclusively (Mr Bungle for example couldn't be put under any one genre), I tend to be unable to find music outside of the genre that provokes a response from me.
    To be fair, I'd say metal's a hell of a lot more varied than many other contemporary mainstream genres of music. I mean how many genres have as wide of a range of vocal deliveries, from a whisper to a gentle croon to a literal scream, as metal? Maybe opera, at best! And there are a much wider variety of sounds and even interpretations of other genres in metal than there are in pop, rock, jazz, hip-hop, country, indie, folk... genres where you're confined to literally one specific set of tropes to be considered a part of it (maybe not so much for rock or jazz, since they can have a pretty wide variety too). But for someone like Borland, who's already admitting they're listening to less metal, if they're not finding enough variety in their music taste nowadays, without actively searching for variety, then they're doing it wrong. Closed-mindedness isn't always necessarily "I don't want to listen to non-metal", especially if one's happy with it. I'm pretty open-minded, but my playlists are 90% prog-rock, and I'm totally fine with it. Closed-mindedness is dissatisfaction and not openly searching for a solution. tl;dr, you pretty much got it right. Also BTBAM covers a lot more musical ground in one song than most bands do in an entire career
    Anty 7
    He's only demonstrating his ignorance. Sure there are plenty of boring unoriginal bands in mainstream metal, but that's the case with almost every single style of music out there.
    Oh the irony... today's metal is certainly better than the heyday of Limp Bizkit. These guys need to shut it.
    yet another musician slamming modern music. just shut the **** up, it makes you look like a hipster.
    Why would ANYONE care what these think about metal? "Repetitive"? Limp Bizkit's music has been some of the most repetitive, mindless, pandering-to-the-lowest-common-denominator crap out there since the late 90's. There is SO MUCH amazing metal and heavy music out there. It's a great time to be a metal fan! Someone's 15 minutes ended a long time ago. The days of obnoxious drunk jocks wearing red hats and wobbling around to "Break Stuff" have been over for some time... you made your money now let it go guys.
    The best thing that happened to Limp Bizkit was the Undertaker for like 6 months in 2001. Why are these guys even a thing anymore? They're like the Motley Crue of the early 2000s
    Mainstream metal and rock are definitely stuck right now, nothing new or interesting has happened in them in a while. As 'hipster' as it may make me sound, non-mainstream bands are the interesting ones right now.
    It's been like that for a very long time, and how is that proof that rock or metal is stale? The most dynamic growth has always been in the "underground" (whatever we mean by that) and the mainstream usually only accepted the watered down version or some lucky one-in-a-million miracle (how Dream Theater's Pull Me Under managed to get famous is probably still one of the world's big mysteries for example).
    I wouldn't say it's a "hipsterish" thing to say these days. As a rock and metal fan, things have been boring in the mainstream for a long time. I think it's because the market dominating major labels (with the big promotion budgets) will always opt for the safe bet. Everynow and then you get something a little different that comes out and when it catches peoples imagination, rather than looking for other different materials the other majors have to have their own clone, preferably a watered down, poppier one that will sell massively, that they can milk for a few years to come. Nu metal is an example of that. You had the more "credible" bands like Limp Bizkit and Korn that were the initial spark, then a couple of years later you got Puddle Of Mud, Papa Roach dare I say Linkin Park who were huge sellers for a brief period. Ultimately, majors don't care if it's boring, if it's making money, they are happy with U2s new record... grumble grumble...
    or how Faith no More got popular at all is baffling. I mean listen to that Angel Dust album lol, they were clearly not after fame.
    That doesn't make you sound like a "hipster" it's just true. The best metal and heavy music has been almost entirely ignored by the mainstream since classic metal's heyday in the mid-to-late 80's. If anyone calls you a "hipster" for saying that they're just naive.
    We need more bands like cage the elephant that do their own thing instead of copying other bands. Yes (insert warped tour band here), looking at you
    Why the hell is this comment downvoted? "Slamming" modern music as a whole is stupid and is generally proof of near-sightedness.
    Actually I kind of agree with them. Since 2000 there's almost nothing good that comes from metal music in general (maybe Epica or Mastodon but that's early 2000's) And I'm not a fan of Limb Bizkit but i saw them last week with Protest the Hero and I can tell you they still rock. Everyone was dissapointed by Protest the Hero cause they were super bad. New bands are generic and if you think that Protest the Hero is original... That's just some power/core with a shredder who makes bad harmonies on his guitar... The last good bands were formed in the 90's and Limb Bizkit is not even close to be a good band but they rock. New band are even worse than Limb Bizkit and that's what is sad today...
    Then you're not listening to the right bands. Granted, the 90's were great for music, but they all sounded the same too. The music industry is about doing whats popular to get signed. Independent bands are actually the ones that are worth watching/listening to. There are some amazing signed bands that are ahead of the curve though
    When I say 90's I think Machine Head, Opeth, Paradise Lost, Satyricon, My Dying Bride, Korn, Mayhem, Channel Zero or Nine Inch Nails. All these band sounds typically same i guess. And saying that indy bands are the ones worthy listening seems a bit extreme...
    There are two types of indie: the soft radio friendly hipster shit labels love to pass as indie, and the genuine bands who aren't restricted by labels and have the freedom to make the music they want. Pretty sure he meant the latter
    Right. Indie should mean independent label, regardless of genre. Unfortunately what people think it means is "xylophones, xylophones, more xylophones and scarves"
    God I miss old Korn. I hate how they've started to experiment too far with electronic/dubstep.
    Nothing personal, but your comment could very well be the reason for this article's subject. Metallica makes St. Anger and Lulu, people bash like there is no tomorrow. Same with your comment about Korn. No wonder bands are too scared to change things up, Before anyone complains about bands being same, think about if you truly would not bash, when bands try new stuff, cause a lot of people are in a way hypocrite about this matter.
    Yes. Everyone bashed Metallica for making Lulu or St Anger but then bashed them for making an album that sounded like their old stuff. It's a lose lose situation. Either they try different stuff and it they are ridiculed for not giving us what we want or they do the same and get ridiculed for not trying stuff. It's the state of music today. Everyone claims to be open minded but just wants the same thing they had before really.
    Bands can get into other music without it being Electronic or Hip Hop... or as I call it "Anti-music"
    Vandekill, how can you possibly say all of those bands sound the same? Machine Head, Opeth, Satyricon, Korn, Mayhem, Nine Inch Nails, not one of those bands sounds the same in my experience!
    lol, satyricon and mayhem are just two typical sound-alike black metal bands: if you've heard one, you've heard them all. nothing out of the Norwegian scene since Ulver has been anything decent, and they're not even metal.
    That was ironic actually... I was asking me why i got downvotes on this. For my first comment i could understand cause i bash Protest the Hero but on this one --'
    Don't cry because of downvotes, people have the right to downvote whatever they want to.
    But half of those bands were largely ignored in the 90s when they were active. You kids can't even conceive of how underground music worked before the internet. /oldman
    Dude, do a bit of digging and I promise you'll find some awesome stuff. Stuff that gets exposure, metal wise, is mainly watered down radio metal. One release I'm suuuuper pumped for is Fallujah's The Flesh Prevails for instance. Insane band.
    That's what I keep hearing, but noone ever provides any links.
    If we are only counting bands with debut LPs after 2000... Fleshgod Apocalypse, Protest the Hero, The Dear Hunter, Mother Mother, Mastodon, The Ocean, Haken, Gojira, Baroness, City and Colour, Explosions in the Sky, Mono, Phideaux Xavier, Sister Sin, Rise Against, Trivium, Ghost, and etc. Not all of those are metal, but are good artists who debuted post 2000. If you include bands who have released great albums who in the last 5 years even, then the list is even bigger. Septicflesh's last 3 albums have been their best. The Great Mass is one of the best (Symphonic) Death Metal albums I have ever heard.
    Finally someone mentions Protest the Hero. They singlehandedly revived my hope for music
    Finally? You can go to any number of UG articles and find a Protest the Hero circle jerk in the comments.
    Gojira, Hacride, Electric Wizard, Dagoba, Obscura.. yeah these are just some off the top of my head, but all of them worth checking out.
    Protest the Hero is definitley not "Power/core". You take mostly Progressive Metal and Hardcore Punk, and there new one I swear has classic metal influence. I understand your opinion but please....unsderstand what you're talking about before you start bashing any sort of band :p
    What? Protest the Hero not original? I don't know any bands that sound like them... And bad harmonies? What exactly is bad harmony?
    Not enough upvotes! PtH is phenomenal.
    Seriously! I hate to be a bias but ive been listening to them since fortress and up until recently they've had a sound that was unique to them. Idk what kind of performance or crowd was at vandekill's limp/pth show but every time ive seen them theyve kicked ass. Its possible the performance was mediocre, but its also possible the crowd was too.Vandekill was in it and the guy doesn't even like them, imagine a whole crowd worth of him and bam you have a "super bad" show.
    My favorite Protest the Hero album is still Kezia, but I think they've all been pretty good. I've seen them 3 times and always been entertained by the show. I think a lot of people don't like that Rody, the singer tends to ramble a bit between songs, but I think it's amusing. It reminds me of what NOFX does at live shows. I recently read an interview where Protest the Hero said they were trying to focus more on playing the songs well, rather than going crazy on stage, so maybe the performances aren't quite as lively as they used to be, I don't know.
    "Actually I kind of agree with them. Since 2000 there's almost nothing good that comes from metal music in general" The only people who say shit like this are the ones who listen to so little Metal, they actually think bands like Mastodon or Gojira are some of the best bands to come out in the last couple of decades. I mean, it's no wonder you can't find anything good about modern Metal if the only examples you can come up with are Protest the Hero, Mastodon and Epica. Jesus Christ. Next you'll be saying Rap is dead because the best thing you've heard since 2pac died was Soulja Boi.
    comparing Mastodon to Soulja Boi is just wrong in so many ways, they've carved out a large influence in the metal through a just original enough passionate take on progressive influences much like Metallica except they actually have an exceptional drummer. It is getting bad in the mainstream though, every single mastodon has released so far for the new album has had a standard radio format and a consistent 4 time rhythm of some sort and I've found most of the 2000s metal to be unexceptionally dull.
    Since 2000 we got : Bullet For My Valentine, Trivium, Escape The Fate, Asking Alexandria, Falling in Reverse, any core shit, Periphery, Protest the Hero, Alesana, Avenged Sevenfold, Sabaton, Papa Roach, Alestorm and some more... Sorry but all this shit is bad... Yeah you can find 1 or 2 songs great that these bands made. But an album in complete? Please... There's some drinkable band but nothing exceptionnal. There's an enromous lack of creativity since 2000... And take a genre that already exist and just put some riffs difficult to play on this (Periphery, Protest the Hero), I definitly wouldn't say that's creative...
    I can't take anyone who says Periphery, Protest, Sabaton and Alestorm suck seriously.
    link no1
    I refuse to take the opinion of somebody who uses Escape The Fate, Asking Alexandria and Falling in Reverse as an argument that metal has grown repetitive/stale/whatever. I've found tons of bands from post 2000 that are awesome and that I find unique. All it takes is 5 minutes to look for them. I'm not even saying "if you look hard enough" or "search around" because that makes it seem harder to find new bands than it actually is. Though I'm going to say a majority of people only bother to find bands via word or mouth or recommendation since I only tend to see the same names thrown around such as Mastodon, Gojira and Protest the Hero. I'm not questioning how good they are, but their names are thrown around so much that I would be surprised if somebody hadn't heard of them.
    I refuse to take the opinion of somebody who thinks Alesana is metal. Emo screamo shit there.
    I find bands much smaller than Mastodon and Protest the Hero that are worth checking out. Painted in Exile for example is a rather unknown band that, if you listen long enough, you'll be pretty blown away (they seem generic because they look generic, but the music is definitely unique, check out their song "Skylines" for an example of that). My own band is pretty good too but we aren't established and we're working on our debut album so chances are nobody will hear about us for a while lol.
    Byzantine's ...And They Shall Take Up Serpants(2005) and Oblivion Beckons(2008) are killer albums. All That Remains' This Darkened Heart(2004) and The Fall of Ideals(2006) are two of my favorites. Avenged Sevenfold's Waking the Fallen(2003), and City of Evil(2005) are also great albums. In Flames' Clayman(2001), Reroute to Remain(2003), Come Clarity(2006)...great albums. Lamb of God's As the Palace Burn(2003), Ashes of the Wake(2004) and Wrath(2009), Killswitch Engage's Alive or Just Breathing(2002), Opeth's Blackwater Park(2001), Watershed(2008), etc. I don't see how you can say any of those bands lack creativity simply because you don't like them. They make the music they want to hear. I doubt any of them care whether you like their music or not. This is totally subjective. You like whatever bands you want to like, but I think there are still good metal bands out there.
    Sure there's good album in the 2000 but made by band of the 90's... You forgot Machine Head's Blackening. And i know there's great band that formed in the 2000. Ghost or The Devil's Blood are awesome. I don't know if it's really metal but that's awesome. And you're right it's not cause i don't like the band hat there's no creativity but I don't think that In Flames were very creative in the 2000. And albums can be great without being creative so it's logic that theres great uncreative albums... For me Blackwater Park is not a creative album cause it sounds to much like Still Life imo.
    Indeed, I forgot The Blackening. For me Unto the Locust and Through the Ashes of Empires are nearly, if not equally as good. I also forgot Shadows Fall's The Art of Balance. What do you consider being creative? I think it's difficult for metal bands to appease their listeners because metal fans in general have a pretty low tolerance for change. I'd be perfectly fine if Avenged Sevenfold stuck with their sound on Waking the Fallen, but they evolved and made City of Evil, and I thought it was great. In order for a band to be creative, they have to evolve and their sound is bound to change, but then people complain about it, so how do you win? I play guitar, and for me, if I'm struggling to be creative I can listen to any of the albums I've mentioned and chances are something will catch my ear and inspire me, which I'd say makes any of those albums worthy of being called creative.
    Case in point: the majority of the stuff you just listed is shit 13 year olds who're just getting into extreme music listen to. Most of it isn't even bloody relevant to the Metal world. How can you even begin to formulate an opinion on the state of modern Metal when, apparently, your experience with the genre is barely over the level of someone who just started listening to it last week? Shit, dude, if you wanted to talk about bad Metal, there was a resurgence in Thrash Metal that hit the height of its popularity only a couple of years ago. Couldn't you have picked any number of mediocre bands that caught that wave, instead of picking the mold off the bottom of the barrel like someone who knows nothing about what he's talking about?
    The Number Twelve Looks Like You is pretty different, and all there hit came out after 2000. Granted the screaming makes it a difficult band to listen to at first.
    As if Limp Bizkit are anything close to metal. That lot of tool bags aren't even musicians. They're jokes
    Actually, they're pretty amazing musicians, Fred Durst just makes them look like shit
    This. They are awesome musicians that get so lost in the Limp Bizkit sucks ether that they rarely get through recognition they deserve. Take out the vocals and you get some really great songs. If Fred Durst wasn't so dead-set on being a silly gangsta, they would be much more respectable as a group.
    Calling them "amazing" is going a little far... they're decent but yeah, I totally agree, Durst's vocals and whole being brings the band down to sh*t status. If they had even an average vocalist they'd be listenable. None of them are great but as a band they work well.
    I saw limp bizkit a few weeks ago and I agree that they're not metal but i tell you, their energy and their entire show is amazing, I was pretty blown away after their show. Im not a big fan btw
    They have almost nothing to do with metal. And individual musicians may be decent, but as a band Limp Bizkit is and always has been a joke.
    here you go: the fact the Limp Bizkit "have almost nothing to do with metal" and the band as a whole "is and always has been a joke" has absolutely no relevance to anything on this thread or the article...I don't personally play metal music, or ever played in a metal band, but I listen to a good amount of it, clearly some of the members of the band draw influences from metal and hard rock (evident by the music aspect of their songs) and they are just stating their opinions, to be quite honest, arent very far off from the truth anyway...stop being a butthurt metalhead so quick to jump on someone for having an unfavorable few on your precious, exclusive genre... good enough for you?
    Nothing to do with it being an unfavourable view, it's just a view born out of ignorance from someone who said that he doesn't even listen to much Rock or Metal. It'd be the same if someone said all Hip Hop was trash just because they listened to the radio, or if someone claimed the American Civil War was about states' rights, just because they listened to some Lost Causer revisionist trash. It's an ignorant opinion that he wouldn't have if he actually bothered to put an inkling of effort into actually looking into what he's talking about. Then again, we are talking about a guy from a band who made people believe 90s Metal was nothing more than crappy Alt Rock meets Rap, so can we really expect all that much?
    It was a reply to a comment already made here, and of course every comment under an article on this site is perfectly on topic, right? They have some very minor metal influences, but the band's entire aesthetic and style is almost entirely drawn from (bad) hip-hop, pop and (bad) hardcore. He's stating a very ignorant opinion, that seems to be the cool thing to do these days to show how "old school" and "unique" you are, and it's even further from the truth that Limp Bizkit is a metal band. Calling me butthurt and writing a reply that seems to be on the verge of exploding with rage. Nice!
    It's always amusing when a comment like this gets -6 with exactly zero argumented counter-replies.
    Modern metal blows. Its all breakdowns and low tunings. All these modern metal bands could play Warped Tour.
    Second Rate
    Most of those bands with the breakdowns play Metalcore, Deathcore, Melodic Metalcore, etc. They're essentially Hardcore bands with a Metal influence (a few of them aren't too bad, I was quite fond of God Forbid and Unearth at one point) which ties them more to the Punk side of things than Metal. To form a negative opinion of modern Metal based on these bands is wrong.
    If you truly think this, your view of modern metal is so limited that there's no sense in even talking to you. Hint: Open string breakdowns aren't really that metal.
    Wes is right
    Second Rate
    If you think that, you are as woefully ignorant of the genre as Wes is. Wes may know repetitive (his guitar playing and his band are the very definition of it), but he knows nothing of Heavy Metal. I'm a concert/album reviewer, and based on the promos I get inundated with on a near daily basis... Wes couldn't possibly be further from the truth. Not only are there old veterans out there putting out excellent material, there are many young bands from all around the world putting out quality metal. A couple of my favourites are Spain's Bokluk and India's Fragarak. Both bands released their debut albums within the last two years. If bombastic Death Metal is not your thing, I recommend Ossacrux. They are a Hardcore/Metal hybrid from New Orleans. I've seen them live twice (with Goath***** in January and with Morbid Angel last Friday). Good show, tight band. I think they may have a demo out. Yeah, these bands may not be reinventing the wheel, but (believe it or not) it is possible to make interesting music that sounds non derivative within existing genres.
    Second Rate
    I can't believe this thing censored Goat*****. That's a band name. Perhaps I should have worded it as Goatsexworker to be politically correct and inoffensive?
    You know nothing Limp Bizkit.
    GoT reference? If so i love you!
    I love the GoT series and especially the books, but this "you know nothing" thing is annoying. It's always interesting to see when something like this happens years after the original publication. This shows how great books are ignored and only through a tv series it gets the attention it deserves.
    There are TONS of bands that do song the same in some respects. That being said, there are quite a few bands like Mastodon, The Faceless, Opeth, and Daath that sound very unique are doing things different. This guy really isn't an expert in the field of metal; so he's a rather poor judge of the current scene IMO. I mean he played in LimpBizket for goodness sakes.....
    i love wes borland and bizkit was surprisingly one of the top 10 best shows i have ever been to, but his statements are false. there is more awesome metal today than there ever was, your just not going to hear it on the radio.
    The reason metal, in general, has gotten repetitive is nobody knows how to play guitar anymore. The basic run-of-the-mill rock band plays 1 finger power chords and that is all. No creativity or ability.
    I haven't seen anywhere else so many people talking shitty things about a band that they supposedly don't follow and like... If you don't agree, just say that and state your opinion. Nobody cares if you like the band members or the band itself.
    I guess he WES just meant that nothing new happens. not that his music is less repetitive in itself. There are less bands being totally new. May depend on the genre codes itself. Try somehthing new and you gonna get crucified. There's no space for rap and electro in the heads of those who judge(d) metal. But there is no rule. how can metal break something that isnt anymore??? We need a Genre-free approach. Something unique and true. Because the new generation shits on these categories. Why not a chilling reggae part, but not like a collage more like homogenous creation. why not rap over riffs, and keep them metal. That's the Problem. There is no unity in sight. Because of people that hear the words by limp biskit and cannot accept them coz it was said by Fred Durst, this music fight will go on. The Discours rulez.... The Thing is everythings stucks after a time. Find a new tool/style and exploit it...get haters...have a genre/gang ultra mega hyper electro breakdown....for a whole song. All you critics do something!!!!
    He's got no real say on metal as a whole. Metal today comes in so many forms these days it's become even more stupid to generalize everything into genres and say this is all good, this is all bad. That's stupid. If people go looking there is some great forms of all music and something for everyone. Popular American metal bands like Mastodon are still doing good things etc.
    Obscura, The Faceless, Inanimate Existence, ect... This website is shameful. "Ultimate-Guitar" my ass.
    He's clearly clueless as to what's really out there today. There's some amazing talent out there right now.
    I don't agree, but maybe they were just having one of those days you don't wanna wake up, nothing feels good, everybody sucks