Lorde Rails Against 'Spineless' Music Critics

"Don't act like you respect them then throw them under the bus," says the singer.

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In a post on her Tumblr (via Consequence of Sound), Lorde attacked Complex magazine for publishing a negative review of Iggy Azalea's debut "The New Classic" shortly after featuring her on a print cover.

As Lorde wrote, "It happens to me all the time - Pitchfork and that ilk being like 'can we interview you?' after totally taking the piss out of me in a review. Have a stance on an artist and stick to it. Don't act like you respect them then throw them under the bus."

Azalea responded to the post via Twitter, writing, "I agree @lordemusic media LOVE to flop about, But when you're completely spineless Im sure its hard to stick to even ur own opinion #GoGirl."

Commenting to fans, Azalea wrote in another series of tweets, "The media will beg for free tickets to your show just so they can write about how much they hate it. I wish you could all see it. The whole things actually pretty funny."

She added, "They also love to have upbeat bubbly mid 20s women do the daily blog posts about you. But keep a stash of pseudo intellectual middle aged men in sandals at hand ready to review everyone's albums." The "pseudo intellectual middle aged man in sandals" is Complex's Jody Macgregor, who scored "The New Classic" a 5/10.

Complex offered its own response in an op-ed entitled "Why Lorde, Iggy Azalea and Grimes Are Wrong About Criticism and Journalism," written by associate editor Insanul Ahmed. He made a distinction between news and criticism and pointed out how the pair "seem to confuse press as 'respect' and criticism as being thrown 'under the bus.'" Read it in full here.

So, who's right?

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    Why should magazine editors pat you in the ass for your music after putting you on the cover? Generally, critics and interviewers are different people, you know. And you can be interviewed due to a number of reasons: popularity (which seems to be the case here), controversy etc. When a critic writes about your music, he does it solely because of the music. I don't think that music critics are authorities and I don't even mind reading most of the stuff they write, but I don't see the contradiction here. And frankly, I usually can't be arsed to click on articles that I don't like, but hell, this girl is starting to annoy the living shit out of me. Such a loudmouth, so pretentious. She makes Kanye West look like the ****ing Dalai Lama. She isn't saving pop music from mediocrity either.
    I usually agree with Lorde on popular culture issues but she's bang off the mark here. The "media" isn't one person, and as you said, it's not the interviewers that are giving them bad reviews. If it's the same person, yeah it's spineless, but an entire brand shouldn't have to have one opinion about an artist's entire work.
    Not to feel all entitled and 'right-on' when it's just negativity, but I'm glad there's someone who's as annoyed b her as I am. How in god's name is she in any way original or interesting?! That one song she has is more bland than most 'stripper pop', that makes it better?
    you always have great posts/opinions, couldn't agree more. Lorde is the definition of overhyped Also love the Noel Avatar
    Honestly, I think she's actually not necessarily saying to pat her on the ass, but rather, if they're going to talk negatively of her, don't feature her on their cover for the popularity.
    I'm sure Lorde had this same attitude when doing her interviews...Come on. You know she's all polite and shit to journalists during interviews and such trying to get good press or favorable reviews. Then she shits on them on social media... I actually like Lorde and think she's making better pop than most artists these days, but she is wrong here.
    Criticizing someones art and being respectful in an interview are two different things. There is no contradiction. Would she prefer that a magazine that reviewed her negatively be rude and unprofessional towards her?
    Yeah, if UG could just shut up about Lorde already, that'd be great.
    Dave Grohl endorsed her so we'll never hear the end of her.
    Endorsed...You keep using that word, but I dont think it means what you think it means...
    Endorsed: "declare one's public approval or support of." Learn the definition of words before being facetious.
    I don't see anything wrong. Reviews and interviews are two completely different things, interviews are a way of saying they like the artist at all. Refusing an interview because of a negative review is a bit silly IMO. To me, it just sounds like she's pissed off because of a bad review, grow up.
    The Spoon
    She's 17. Don't tell me you didn't try to act like a hardass about trivial shit at 17.
    Jaysus I keep forgetting this girl is so young. but i agree. 17 year old girls are the most dramatic, whiny and self absorbed girls out there. If someone clashes with them its never their fault and they always try to seem like a victim
    If you can't handle criticism, leave this planet.
    The Judist
    Wow. What in your young life made you so harsh? How about "If you can't handle criticism, lovingly learn that all matter is illusory and you are infinite consciousness having an earthly human existence" ?
    Sure, if you prefer that line it's ok. My statement may sound harsh, but I'm not retracting it. In this life, you will be criticised every day, about everything, because that's just what happens. If you want to make music, you should be prepared to take some criticism because not everybody will love what you do. If you get agitated over it, only you are agitated, your loss. People who fail to see this are on the wrong planet.
    "In this life, you will be criticised every day, about everything." I don't think anybody's criticised me about anything all week. If you are used to being criticised every day about everything, you must really suck at life.
    Oh please, not all criticism is made public. Don't tell me you don't walk around town, watching other people, thinking at least once every five minutes "wtf that person looks weird" or "damn that voice is annoying". I shouldn't even have to explain this. And please refrain from personal insults, don't be that guy.
    Wait, you go out and every 5 minutes you think something negative about someone? I spend most of my time not even considering the existence of other people in public, and when I do it's never something mean. One example I can remember is a guy who was in a suit with a funny looking hat and mustache and covered in tattoos, and the first thing I thought is "props to that guy for walking around in public while looking a certain way that could get him ridiculed." I thought that took courage, I didn't think "HE IS NOT PART OF THE HERD HE MUST BE ELIMINATED". So what if someone looks weird or has a weird voice, that's what makes them unique. I look weird, because I'm a Metal fan. So how can I judge people on the street for looking weird? It'd be hypocrisy. I hardly ever negatively judge someone for almost anything. Although I must point out the irony in asking people to not insult you after you insult others for something as superficial as a look or voice.
    Of course I don't actively spend my time thinking about other people and judgeing them. Conorpatt seems to have understood. Everyone judges. It's a subconscious thing. Ever heard that saying about first impressions? Apparently this is necessary, but I am not that superficial. It's not as if I don't look weird myself. It was just an example. And I did not offend anyone specific with it, and I never will, because those are thoughts that pop in your head for 1 millisecond and never see the light of day in terms of speech, so no one will ever get offended by it. I feel like I'm arguing a clear case, yet more and more people feel insulted by it. Main point: criticism is a part of life and one should learn to deal with it. Let's not turn it into something it's not, shall we?
    It seems like everyone everywhere gets so butthurt over negative reviews. Sorry, not everything deserves glowing 4-5 star reviews. LEAST OF ALL LORDE.
    meh 5/10. I hav hiyer standerds.
    I had a feeling a David Draiman troll was going to show up on UG sooner or later.
    Apparently not when it comes to spelling
    There's no contradiction here. One person writing for a magazine not liking an artist doesn't mean another person writing for that magazine shouldn't interview you. The magazine is not one person.
    Honestly she's in the pop industry, when Lady Gaga rose to fame all the media did was bash her, saying she was too fat, she was a transvestite, she never complained once coz she knew that was the price to pay for having all that fame.
    The Judist
    There are more acts deserving of a record deal than Lorde IMO. As for Iggy Azalea, she wouldn't exactly be where she is if she looked like Kathy Griffin.
    Welcome to the world of tabloid media love. Try reading a copy of Kerrang sometime, then you'll get a really good example of soddy and self serving journalism
    Oh f*ck off you miserable bitch, everyone doesn't have to like you. Oh and that Iggy chick didn't just get one bad review, on the wikipedia page it looks like it got loads of bad reviews.
    There's nothing wrong with a magazine's reviewer not liking your music but then having a magazine wanting to interview the same musician. Who reads music reviews anyways?
    Yeah, music magazines are all made by one person, with one opinion on every musician.
    Exactly, I think this is the detail Lorde is missing here. Just because one journalist for a particular website/magazine doesn't like her music it doesn't mean another person from the same website/magazine can't interview her.
    naive, clueless little girl...
    She's also extremely successful doing something she loves. What are you doing?
    Second Rate
    Ahhh, I see. So in order to speak one's mind, one must be a celebrity (or in the case of Lorde a "flavour of the week")? Interesting.
    I never said you couldn't speak your mind. She's clearly not clueless because shes incredibly successful. It seems to me like half the people on this website are so jealous over a pop girl being successful. If this was James hetfield or any other metal musician everyone on this site would cream and agree with him. And flavor of the week? She's been hugely successful for much longer than a week. You are the clueless one sir. If you can't handle a genre you don't enjoy being more popular than your preferred genre then you're going to have a sad life.
    So is Justin Bieber. What are you doing?
    Again, just because you don't like him doesn't mean he is clueless. Obviously he knows what he's doing. I hate his music and him, but he's obviously smart. I don't think either of you understand my original comment.
    Lorde is lucky to be where she is. Sure she has catchy songs, but its more of being at the right place at the right time. There are so many other artists who are struggling to be where she is, and will never see the light of day nor will their music be heard. I'm pretty sure she posted her original of Royals on Reddit the first time, and everyone told her what was wrong/what to fix, I guess the criticism helped then didn't it? If you don't like the criticism, fine, get the **** off the stage and give someone else a chance.
    She isn't against criticism. I suggest you read the article again and actually finish it this time. I'm pretty sure 90% of the comments here don't even realize she's talking about a different artist, not herself.
    Yeah, who the **** is this *****? I'm tired about hearing about this girl. I'd rather we get back to the daily Mustaine news!
    Dark Canuck
    I do agree with her. There not a profession of people more up their own asses than critics.
    Why is this even on here pop and rap are on here all the time. It's a guitarists website ug Plus I don't think anyone cares about lord here anyway
    Well, I imagine that guitar players (other than you, apparently) care about genres besides rock and metal and punk.
    Lies! Those are the only genres that exist to guitar players! In all seriousness though Metal does kind of dominate the guitar region of music. I'm ok with that, Metal's great. But I for one would be interested to see a Metal album with an instrument besides guitar being the lead force of the band.
    "It's as if these places have more than one person writing for them. Man, that one writer is really confused about me. This person wants an interview, then they rip on me. Does this person have Dissociative Identity Disorder, or something?"
    I don't understand all the hate Lorde is receiving lately. She's talented, there's no denying on that matter. Even though it may not be the genre I like the most, I think she's alright.
    Danjo's Guitar
    If they're upset that they received a negative review and then the magazine wants to interview them for the press they should just refuse to do the interview. But I would also say music reviews are pretty worthless.