Manchester Police Carries Out the First Emo Hate Crime Arrest

After recognizing attacks against alternative as hate crime, Manchester police makes its first arrest under the new category.

Manchester Police Carries Out the First Emo Hate Crime Arrest
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After officially recognizing the attacks against metal, goth, emo and punk fans as hate crime, Manchester police has successfully carried out their first arrest under the new category. After assaulting a 16-year-old emo teenager this Monday, a 44-year-old man and a 14-year-old boy were arrested and subsequently released on bail until May 7, The Guardian reports. The attack has been categorized as alternative subculture hate crime and is currently awaiting further investigation. "Officers will be reviewing CCTV and speaking to witnesses in order to investigate this attack thoroughly ... the fact we were able to identify this as a hate crime is very positive. Just last Thursday we announced that we will now record alternative subculture as a hate motivation. We hope this encourages victims to continue to come forward so we can take positive action against offenders," said the Assistant chief constable Garry Shewan. The new act came to power following the murder of 20-year-old goth fan Sophie Lancaster in 2007 after she was attacked and severely beaten while walking through the park with her boyfriend. Sophie's mother Sylvia gave the latest decision her full support saying that "it's a validation of the work undertaken in the past five years." Sophie's attackers were arrested and sentenced in 2008 with the judge recognizing their acts as a hate crime. In a recent debate we held, most of the UG community also condemned such crimes, giving various comments and opinions on the topic.

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    Hawkisonfire
    A 44-year old man assaulting a teenager disgusts me, hate crime or not he should be sent down.
    thewoodsterix
    "44-year-old man and a 14-year-old boy were arrested" Was this a father-son outing?!
    Hawkisonfire
    That's what I was thinking. With role models like that I'm not surprised there are so many youths in this country that are wasters. Gives the UK a terrible reputation.....
    westley23j
    and from what you hear in the news, us over here in the States have such a GREAT rep ourselves.... haha
    Chronologo
    I was thinking the same, what the hell is a relatively old man attacking a teenager?
    JOHNSTONE6
    Ya really. I mean emo people are weird lol but you really got enough hate in your heart to do some shit like this at 44 fricken years old...GROW UP!
    rolandroi
    What could you do if you see these guys in real life?
    I'd sacrifice myself and save humanity.
    glpledzep145
    i did not see this video going in the direction it went in at all. i was expecting some dark emo metal shit. not cheesey 80's emo kid pop. Weird stuff
    Mephaphil
    I thought this was the band 'Bewitched'. I watched it a few times looking for the twins but they ain't there. It's not that dissimilar though.
    parasitetheband
    Personally, I can't stand this "band". I'm a goth, don't like most goths or emos. But I don't go punching kids in the face just because I don't like how they dress. If I did that I'd be hitting everyone I pass on the street. It's just common bloody sense! You don't do it! I find this new law a joke, people should stick up for themselves! This does not help, it singles us out, makes us look weaker then we are. What you have shared here is a VERY poor representation with MANY different sub-cultures, and makes us all look this bad. Thanks for spreading the hate there by the way!
    rtsteve1
    Anyone assaulting anyone disgusts me.
    guitarist41
    I agree. Outside of a purely sporting realm, violence frightens and sickens me. Even then it can be quite disgusting.
    Izzy-Sweet
    A f*cking 44 year old man?! And to think I was raised to respect adults, but I've seen far too much evidence opposing that idea. I'd have thought people grow out of that sh*t but again I've seen many times that's not always the case.
    latinromans
    I've never arbiterily repected adults, it just never made sense. If someone knows there shit I will happily listen respectfully the whole day but that's earned and a whole lot of teachers and adults in my life where pretty ****ing stupid. because of a combination of aspergers and laziness I always got a lot of assistance from the people who worked with mentally handicapped kids (I guess being bored and not giving a shit is a kind of handicap) and I met one person in this line of work I could respect between kindergarten and graduation. Funny thing is I loved reading and learning but the schools material always suffered in comparison to the stuff I brought from home... And this is related to a father figure son duo beating an emo kid because... respect for adults, right... already said that... Well I hope you enjoy reading the life stories of some random guy on the Internet.
    Chris_Craig
    I've been attacked on three different occasions for just having long hair here in Ireland.Bout time to see this happening
    wembly
    I live in manchester. I've got long hair and I wear a battle jacket covered in thrash patches about everywhere. I've never had anything said or done to me. It seems really odd.
    Smudgee
    You must just look hard haha. I've got long hair and wear my Sabaton hoodie around all the time, but nobody says anything to me.
    noisewall11
    That doesn't really suprise me, especially if you're talking northern Ireland.. They'll deliberatly beat anyone up there from what I hear.
    Irondevil
    I can't believe it took them this long to classify it as a hate crime, the very second a person was attacked for the way they dressed it should have been obvious it was a hate crime!
    abhi1393
    It's good they were arrested but I'm not sure about this subculture hate crime thing. Shouldn't this kind of incident be covered by straight up assault?
    eddiehimself
    It is, but hate crime is designated as an "aggravating factor" IE you will get given a stiffer penalty for assaulting someone if it was seen to be motivated by an aggravating factor rather than just simple assault.
    eddiehimself
    This is good news. Personally, I think the designation is a bit too specific. I think anyone who beats someone else up just for looking "different" should be treated as a perpetrator of a hate crime. But yeah, this guy is a total twat. No excuse for this sort of behaviour at any age, let alone 44. That's Manchester for you, I suppose. Glad I don't have to live there any more...
    alcohocalypse
    I agree that changes to the law like this are long overdue. An adult attacking a minor is bad enough in itself, without the motivation for it being a matter of personal choice. In the past I have also been attacked for looking different (long hair, piercings, tattoos etc) however I've been fortunate in that a long time ago I used to fight competitively so for the most part I'm able to defend myself.
    Bazz22
    This is crazy sad. I really hope the kid that got assaulted was okay and everything.
    ProgFripp74
    I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet... the savior of emo's everywhere...
    Explorer939
    As black jack says, "You can't kill the metal" \m/... ...and just about any genre that's worth listening to
    Insanity ninja
    Not saying it's okay to assault people, but quite often when I go into Manchester and through the Urbis area, I see underage kids drinking in a public place, both of which are illegal. And other kids that have no respect for the general public and just mess up the place for everyone else. It's only a minority of a minority, but it puts me off going near there.
    link no1
    Urbis? Really? People still hang around there? I thought it was a waste of time even at the age it was 'appropriate' to be there.
    Insanity ninja
    They do, sadly enough. Mostly scene kids, sweaty metalheads and punks calling other punks wannabes. You get the odd weirdo in his early 30's down there sometimes too.
    HammettIsKing
    Nobody should be assaulting each other, but the hate crime concept is stupid to me. Assault is assault, it shouldn't be considered worse or not as bad based off the perpetrator's views of another person's culture/way of life/etc.
    Defined_article
    I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree. In my understanding there is a different psychological issue that is happening to make it a hate crime. If a person simply goes out and fights for little reason, surely that is a very different mental state than to wish and act upon hurting another person simply because their dress code is specific to a genre of music and style that they like. I'm 23 years old and didn't appreciate walking to a venue and being told that I'm a "F***ing C**t and deserve to be raped" by a fool out of their car window, simply because I dress differently than their personal taste.
    jonnie.farrow
    Could have done with this 10 years ago when a 19 year old assaulted me in the street for dressing differently. I had a witness and the police took statements but he still got off. And I was 15. Disgusting.
    Spadge71
    It's ok making laws, it's getting the Police to actually give a shit that's the problem.
    J...Out
    shoulda fought back instead of being a bitch and taking it.... he was 19. Not like he was 44.
    DexterF
    Not enough info to state on this by a long shot, but I came to think: does this mean it's ok to go to school fully dressed in your fav styles again without being alienated and singled out by both same-track runner schoolmates and teachers alike? If I was in school today and dressed like I used to I'd be arrested for being a terrorist suspect
    AcousticMetal99
    It would probably be against the school dress-code. You could be sent home or whatever. However, would people sart attacking you? Being alienated or shunned is quite different to being physically or verbally assaulted.