Metallica Defend Their New Festival

Fans say the "Orion Festival" shouldn't include so many indie acts - but the band insist it represents diversity, and there will be plenty of heavy acts to enjoy.

Metallica Defend Their New Festival
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Metallica have defended the festival they are launching after complaints that the lineup was too indie for their metal audience. The newly announced Orion Festival lists the likes of Arctic Monkeys on its lineup, which some fans considered unusual given Metallica's stance in the metal world. Lars Ulrich says there is nothing to worry about: "This whole thing is kind of based more around the classic festivals that we've been playing in Europe for the better part of the last 25, 30 years, which is really about diversity and really about kind of many, many different musical experiences," he told The Pulse Of Radio (via Blabbermouth). "Now whether anybody buys into that or not, we'll find out, but there's gonna be lots and lots of cool, heavy stuff, trust me." Orion will take place at an abandoned airport in Atlantic City, where Metallica will perform their "Black Album" and 1991's "Ride The Lightening" in full. The event will be run by C3 Presents, the team behind Lollapalooza. "I don't think any of us know what's going to happen, but it's going to be pretty cool," said Charlie Walker from C3 Presents. "Buy a ticket, f--ker!" Watch Metallica talk about Orion Festival here: Will you be attending Orion Festival, or did Metallica sell out to mainstream audiences with their lineup choices? Share your view in the comments.

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    Pagan_Poetry
    Rob E wrote: 1991 sure was a productive year for Metallica...the black album AND Ride?
    I love how Cliff Burton came back from the dead to play bass.
    troyofyort
    cargath wrote: Also, how is including to many _indie_ acts selling out to mainstream?
    Because no matter what Metallica does, people will say they are selling out to the mainstream.....
    Pagan_Poetry
    Ah, look what we have here. Elitists being morons as usual. I'm not even going to answer the question at the end. Sounds good to me! Where else would I see Best Coast, Fucked up, Modest Mouse, The Sword, Gaslight Anthem and Metallica in one place? The line up is diverse, refreshing, and insanely awesome. If I could go, I would definitely go.
    Rob E
    1991 sure was a productive year for Metallica...the black album AND Ride?
    cargath
    Close minded metalheads being intolerant about music. How's that news?
    cargath
    Also, how is including to many _indie_ acts selling out to mainstream?
    Pus_Head
    fede01_8 wrote: i would rather go to an indie festival with good, creative music than a metal festival where you can't distinguish one song from another...
    You can say that about any genre of music. If you are listening to it for the sheer purpose of saying it sucks, of course you're going to think it sounds the same. My buddy explained how every song on Death's Human album sounds all the same and it lacked any creativity. But he's just an idiot. Sort of like you, sir.
    MegadethFan18
    cargath wrote: Close minded metalheads being intolerant about music. How's that news?
    Not really. I can't imagine too many Indie hipsters would be very "open minded" about Cannibal Corpse being on the bill before Arctic Monkeys at a festival. If I go to a Metallica festival I expect to see similar bands. Indie is like the complete opposite of Metal. I mean that's like Having Slayer open for Bon Jovi. Sure I love both bands but they don't really go together.
    -[NiL]-
    Is it just me, or is it weird that the two albums they'll be performing entirely don't even feature the song Orion?
    cargath
    Looking at the lineup, i never heard of any of that bands (excluding Metallica, A7X and Arctic Monkeys). I think that's cool. Instead of lining up the same bands you can see on every other festival finally something new to discover. Also, Metallica never said "a metal festival including all the bands our fans from the 80s like" but "A festival representing what WE like to do and listen to in our free time. If people like it, good. If people don't like it, also good. We like it, and we wanted at least to try." People always complain about Metallica selling out, but to me it looks like Metallica always do whatever they want, and fans are just pissed they don't get their way after whining like babies.
    deadlydictator
    Id rather have a ticket for the show with Mastodon supporting. Fuck living in America, too far away from the killer metal shows.
    LeakyFlask
    If anyone hasn't noticed, Metallica is a HUGE band with a wide and diverse audience. They can't really get anymore mainstream than they already are. Who said metal can't be mainstream? As for the Arctic Monkeys, they're not really the most obscure band of the decade. Two popular, well known bands of different genres playing at the same festival isn't really an unusual occurrence, or anything to get ones panties in a bunch for.
    Rimfrost
    Theres a festival in Norway where you can hear everything from Taake to Royksopp, dont really see the problem. Its kind of cool that you can listen to all kinds of different music in one day.
    Habsman102
    Metallica will perform their "Black Album" and 1991's "Ride The Lightening" in full.
    Has nobody picked up on this yet?
    Rickles360
    I don't care what anyone says... I cannot ****ing wait for this show. Great music (and more?) for two days. Quityerbitchen
    blocsox90
    I really feel like I'm one of few people who enjoyed Load/Re-Load, oh well haha. Solid lineup, wish I could make it.
    GlacierMan
    It sucks living in America? Yeah, try Ireland, where a decent band visits every 5 years or so. And Guns n Roses annually
    zgr0826
    I wish I could go, even if just for Metallica and The Sword; the other bands are just icing on the cake.
    adamzam
    piss off with the "hipster, metal head" bullshit. shut up and listen to the music if its good. stop labelling it. people like that just take the joy out of everything just because there lives are bland and lame.
    Hetfield47
    Man cant have any Tallica' news without someone saying something is total shit now can we? For fu
    nailsarecruel
    MegadethFan18 wrote: I can't imagine too many Indie hipsters would be very "open minded" about Cannibal Corpse being on the bill before Arctic Monkeys at a festival.
    Just guessing here, but I guess that would go down well with hipsters as zombies are so hot right now. Orion looks like a good idea and step in the right direction, particularly in light of Metallica's past shows that had lots of angry whiny MTV lite bands in the supporting slots.
    cargath
    RoxxHunter wrote: Here's a great idea: Let's throw a festival on so ticket prices will be pretty big, have a headline band that is metal then get a bunch of bands that are not metal so the people paying to see the metal band will be annoyed and pissed off. Metallica=Selloutica
    Yeah right. They pay millions to pull off a big festival just to piss off some people. Even if they did, that'd be pretty metal, not sellout.
    cargath
    GlacierMan wrote: It sucks living in America? Yeah, try Ireland, where a decent band visits every 5 years or so. And Guns n Roses annually
    What do you need bands for in Ireland? You've got the best folk music in the world. By far.
    Helloween_rox
    If you enjoy the bands, then go. If you don't, no one is forcing you to buy a ticket, it's that simple. My musical tastes include more than just metal even though I'd say I'm a metalhead, so if I have the money when tix go on sale I'm going.
    moodster
    I like Metallica and lots of other Metal bands...but I'm also a huge Indie Rock fanboy. That having been said, I basically crapped my pants when this lineup was announced. I know that I for sure am going to be attending!
    alestorm666
    Metallica and A7X are my favourite bands on the setlist, but i'm glad they're trying to make it more diverse than the likes of Bloodstock which mainly feature bland death metal bands. Arctic Monkeys are very good as well.
    Shuei5
    If you listen to Metallica to avoid "mainstream music" you really need a reality check...
    js81221
    MegadethFan18 wrote: cargath wrote: Close minded metalheads being intolerant about music. How's that news? Not really. I can't imagine too many Indie hipsters would be very "open minded" about Cannibal Corpse being on the bill before Arctic Monkeys at a festival. If I go to a Metallica festival I expect to see similar bands. Indie is like the complete opposite of Metal. I mean that's like Having Slayer open for Bon Jovi. Sure I love both bands but they don't really go together.
    In my personal opinion, this just isn't a power-festival. Lars and the Gang did try to make it sound heavy, but, really? Avenged Sevenfold, Cage the Elephant? Of course, Arctic Monkeys? This is a rock-show. However, given the recent, (sort of), "Death Magnetic," I am not someone who's going to blabber on about saying they're mainstream or have gone soft. And define Sold Out; they became famous? Big deal! I want merch. I want to wear and show my Metallica love! Just because they start expanding sales and slowing down, doesn't mean their holding the door for money. Now, true, maybe it may have been the backgroud-motive behind Load/ReLoad, but to hell with it on Death Magnetic. They're back.
    iommi600
    cargath wrote: Close minded metalheads being intolerant about music. How's that news?
    +1
    reaper08
    I dont get how they "sold out to the mainstream audiences" because they said they want it to be about diversity, something people other than metal heads could attend and even check out some bands they've never heard of. If thats selling out, then I think America, Australia and Europe have "sold out" to foreign countries and cultures.
    MetalMullet
    On the sell-out topic: 1. Even the most hardcore Metallica-haters have to consider that maybe their music didn't only change to the more light stuff because of the fact that they wanted to earn more money. 2. The fact that they sell baby diapers with their logo on, Big 4, Guitar Hero, and more and more pathetic stuff IS 100% sell-out. Not even the most hardcore Metallica fan could deny that Metallica is a greedy corporation, a giant money-making machine. Although, the band members might only be in it just for the sake of fun, you never know. Which is respectable. But then there is the other side of Metallica made of business men in suits.
    Teh Skisgaars
    mainstream is treated as too much of a taboo word, it's bs that just because i band is famous they are shunned for being "mainstream". this festival sounds awesome, diverse range of acts, fairly cheap, and it sounds like metallica are having fun doing it, which after 30 years is pretty amazing. keen as mustard, unfortunately i live in australia...
    bluesnd63
    When you start a band, isn't the point to get famous/make money? so, according to the idiots out there who use the label 'sellout', you want these guys to be just getting by living in their mother basements their whole lives?
    cargath
    crazysam23_Atax wrote: cargath wrote: Also, how is including to many _indie_ acts selling out to mainstream?Because the Hipsters knew the Artic Monkeys before they were cool?
    Because naming the one band from that lineup you know makes it a mainstream festival?
    GuilT
    I don't see why people are actually surprised by this. Metallica sold out their metal roots long ago. Having said that I think the bands they chose should make for a great show. People wouldn't find fault with this lineup except for the fact that Metallica is the one putting this thing together and headlining it.
    MegadethFan18
    iron_maiden93 wrote: MegadethFan18 wrote: cargath wrote: Close minded metalheads being intolerant about music. How's that news? Not really. I can't imagine too many Indie hipsters would be very "open minded" about Cannibal Corpse being on the bill before Arctic Monkeys at a festival. If I go to a Metallica festival I expect to see similar bands. Indie is like the complete opposite of Metal. I mean that's like Having Slayer open for Bon Iver. Sure I love both bands but they don't really go together. There we go. Unless of course you meant this:
    I said Bon Jovi you raging phaggot.
    Slash181
    They did not sell out to 'mainstream' audiences... who's to say Artic Monkeys are maintream. I think personally their choice of lineup is a complete disaster... and i think one person to blame for that is Lars. I respect what the guys are doing and its far superior in everyway from when they did that 'album' with Lou Reedrubbishatwritingletalonesinging. But they really need to delve into what makes a good festival. Look at the comments on Sonisphere, Download and Bloodstock... In the Metal world heavy is not necessarily better but a good METAL BAND is a good choice. They need to learn this so only from experience they can learn this... If Lars did not suggest these INDIE bands then whoever did needs firing.