Metallica Say Dave Mustaine Has A 'Big Mouth'

James Hetfield wishes the Megadeth frontman would stop pushing for a collaboration between their groups, and confirms Rick Rubin will produce the next Metallica album.

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James Hetfield might have made peace with Megadeth's Dave Mustaine - but wishes his ex-bandmate would stop talking about a collaboration between their bands.

Mustaine had been calling on fans to pressure members of Metallica to form a thrash metal supergroup, but Hetfield is keen to dampen any speculation that it might really happen.

"I think especially with Dave, with all of his struggles, I see him healthier now. I see him as less of a bitter guy," Hetfield told Classic Rock "But I do see a lot of stuff in the press with him talking about jamming with us and making an album. All this other crazy stuff.

"I read it and say to myself, "Hold on. This is the Dave that we kind of wanted to forget about. You know, the big mouth that wants to just go-go-go."

Hetfield is careful to defend Mustaine's behavior, even if claims of a potential collaboration are unwarranted: "There is an authenticity about him when he speak. He doesn't think too much before he does. He just goes off the cuff. Plus, when he says stuff like that, it's well-intended."

Meanwhile, Metallica are roaring ahead with their next album. The latest surprise is that the band have chosen Rick Rubin as producer, despite widespread complaints about his production on their previous record "Death Magnetic".

"Rick is not a one-trick pony," said Lars Ulrich (via Ultimate Classic Rock). "He builds a particular ease around whatever your task is. Whatever we want to do with the next record, he'll help us with that."

Maybe Rubin builds ease by not being in the studio, if you believe a rant from Slipknot frontman Corey Taylor last year.

Taylor claimed that Rubin was only present in the studio for 45 minutes a week while they recorded "Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses", and branded him as overrated and overpaid. Regardless, Rubin continues to produce hit albums including Adele's record-breaking album "21".

Do you wish a Metallica and Megadeth collaboration would really happen? Cast your vote in the comments.

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    fnv8m8
    i remember that david an goliath thing, kind of a stupid thing to say considering david killed goliath, i dont see megadeth killing metallica, although im a bigger megadeth fan than metallica as megadeth have never strayed to far from their thrash roots, where as metallica are as commercial as it gets these days and it shows, daves worth bout $20m and james an lars are about $175m a piece, money doesnt make them better musicians
    RUSTDOGG666
    Dave is trying to bring back 1982 and Metallica is trying to forget it. It's like an issue I had with some of my bandmates. Friends yes, band no. Sometimes that's the best way it works out. As far as Rubin producing the next record, Corey Taylor won't like it just because of Rubin producing. I'm hoping the record will be good, but if Rubin is the ass that Corey says he is then he probably can't produce anything good anymore. We'll see what happens.
    Skuzzmo
    Mustaine has a big mouth, says someone who has just opened their big mouth... Srsly, let sleeping dog lie ffs.
    swave75
    Minivirus2 wrote: And Lars has a big head... Not really news or something that needs confirmation. Any money, James is a little worried the master might show the apprentice how things are done, once more.
    I liked this one.
    djmk9419
    noahi9 wrote: Megadeth left Metallica in the dust with the release of "Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?" 26 years ago. And they've been great ever since. Just listen to their new album "Th1rt3en", worlds better than "Death Magnetic" could ever be in terms of complexity, songwriting, and good quality "headbanging" music.
    Dave and Cliff Were/are Metallica, so to speak?
    Scorpyin
    If it sounds like shit again, it won't be Rubin's fault. =/= Blame the band and those who mixed/mastered it.
    LOL
    wildinferno2010
    it's not like the point of his statement was to tell you that Mustaine had a big mouth. He said that because we all know what he's like... this title was effing misleading. Something like "Metallica Doesn't Want to Collaborate with Megadeth" would've been more fitting
    SOAD_SoG
    lol No shit, james. I thought he Dave mustaine was a shy guy. But Really what's this for, create the Re-Drama of Megadeth v.s Metallica...****ing stupid article.
    AngelWolf
    dont know why dave would want to creat music with todays metallica... or is it he knows he could get them to make a good album with lots of depth again..
    fattychronic
    I think it they would make a great album but it will never happen as long as James remains a table.
    Maestro1600
    fnv8m8 wrote: i remember that david an goliath thing, kind of a stupid thing to say considering david killed goliath, i dont see megadeth killing metallica, although im a bigger megadeth fan than metallica as megadeth have never strayed to far from their thrash roots, where as metallica are as commercial as it gets these days and it shows, daves worth bout $20m and james an lars are about $175m a piece, money doesnt make them better musicians
    Yup, they released Death Magnetic with a massively alienating production, then Lulu. As you say; 'as commercial as it gets.'
    SirWurscht
    Would be the only possibility Metallica (or parts of them) could release an actually good album.
    Maestro1600
    iscreamicecream wrote: Megadeth with Lou Reed would be the better collab. I think Mustaine writes lyrics like Lou.Forget Hetfield and his greying hair.
    You think Mustaine writes lyrics like Lou Reed? Care to offer any examples of this similarity?
    pushcarich
    I think they should do it just to do it. if it flops it flops. but if it doesnt itll be a hit and they may make another one...that one although will definitely flop. that and itll get Mustain to STFU about it. but seriously why not? at least right after or right before you do the next album.
    dudeman667
    On second thought i would welcome an album or song from the collaboration, but i would be skeptical.
    dudeman667
    Im glad Hetfield said something, the dude(mustaine) is kinda just off the cuff like he says. he probably does it because he knows in some way whatever he says will probably be backed up by certain fans waiting on his every word. i think it might be interesting, a collaboration between mustaine and hetfield, ulrich. but i cant help but imagine music from them sounding odd. then again more likely it would be kick ass, but Mustaine just kinda pisses me off, and not in a way that makes me want to be pissed off WITH them like i do with some other bands. i take that back though, i do like some megadeth songs, just not in the same way i like metallica.
    Redsectoreh
    Yeah, instead get Lou Reed to help you ruin your career... Mustaine is too talented for these shmuks anyways, they wouldn't be able to keep up with him.
    muziklover63
    i think that this supergroup would be down right BAD ASS! unfortunately, i think we all know that this will never happen. Even if it did, i have a feeling that the feud and hate between the bands will start back up again. The only collaboration megadeth and metallica should have is the big four.
    Substructure
    Supergroup plz. Hetfield should know it's a good idea, would do a hell of a lot better than another fail Metallica cd.
    animemetalhead
    Why is Hetfield always pissed when someone wants to do something outside of metallica (I.E., Jason Newsted with Echobrain). Maybe he should let his band spread its wings for once, not hold their hand and make them do what he wants, which is only helping Metallica's sales revenue.
    noahi9
    Megadeth left Metallica in the dust with the release of "Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?" 26 years ago. And they've been great ever since. Just listen to their new album "Th1rt3en", worlds better than "Death Magnetic" could ever be in terms of complexity, songwriting, and good quality "headbanging" music.
    MetalMullet
    Supergroups are super f'kin gay. Although, if a collaboration would mean that Bigmouth Mustaine replaces Kirk on the guitar and Lars on the drums, I'd support it.
    pantallica13
    CommanderMeaty wrote: A trash metal super group would be awesome.
    Well, Lars has the drum position covered. All he needs are the drums he used on St. Anger.
    JJ1990
    I see nothing wrong with the things Hetfield is saying here. I personally think that Mustaine shouldn't encourage the fans to pressure Lars and James to go on with this collaberation. Also James is right, I think, when he says Mustaine says it well-intended. What I think, is that both James and Lars are afraid that the collaberation will go wrong, and I wouldn't be suprised if it did. And after it went wrong that things got back the way it used to be (Bands bashing each other). Wouldn't want to see that happen again.
    Rattlehead2
    Dave should stop encouraging James and Lars to do a supergroup with him. If they don't want it then fine, he has a great band that can stand on its' own. Hetfield on the other hand sounds like he has an antipathy towards Mustaine despite reconciling with him these 2 years ago. I mean, just read what he said. He could just deny this supergroup thing and keep quiet about the rest.
    symbolofmylife
    Well all I can say is good for Dave. Its sad that after all these years he's still trying to rope in Metallica to work with him but if I was him I'd move on and forget about the 'tallica boys, period. And if I was Metallica I would've reassessed where my b(r)and of music was and seriously considered doing a project with Dave. Although Metallica started of well and kept it going for very long, in the last decade Megadeth's overtaken Metallica. Compare the last 3 Megadeth albums with the last 3 Metallica ones...sorry to say but Metallica needs to wake up!!
    Martin7890
    nightruler666 wrote: name one megadeth album that was #1 on the charts?
    And album doesn't have to go #1 on the charts or have a lot of sales just to be a better album. For instance, St. Anger sold millions of copies more than Rust in peace did, now, do you seriously think that St. Anger is a better album just for that mainstream bullshit? Didin't think so.
    jonny5(UAI)
    Megadeth... yay. metallica... nay. i luvd em both until metallica just started doin it for the cash. james can shut up. how many times do u see him doin lil sessions n lessons at stores? Dave is everywhere bein a rockstar.... probly not completely free obviously but hes there for the fans mostly. but the both of em together could b really badass
    henkka_potku
    tennesseehild wrote: I do wish it would happen, but at this point no matter how much of a better guitar player then Kirk he is, it is obvious that he saw record sales rise after the big four tour and is merely trying to ride Metallica's coat tails and see how long the cash flow will continue as he makes rediculous statements.
    It's "than" not "then" when you're comparing.
    jimbob32292
    I think this is hilarious, only considering every member in Megadeth now and back in 1991 has 100xs the talent anyone in Metallica will ever have. If Dave is serious im dissapointed... i mean really he has one of the best guitarist out there as his lead guitarist and hes not to shabby himself if you ask anyone who knows his music. This is sad seriously Dave make another album that shits on all of Metallica's your good at doing it.
    ohhell
    this is all old stuff started back in Aug 11, 2011 https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=ps... adeth+and+metallica+supergroup&oq=megadeth+and+metallica+&aq =2&aqi=g-c1g3&aql=&gs_l=hp.1.2.0i7j0l3.2110.5622.2.9147.5.5. 0.0.0.0.175.851.0j5.5.0...0.0.11etXNTy-ns&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or. r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=61fe8c406b329c8c&biw=1024&bih=638
    pathofgore1
    Maestro1600 wrote: rhs5110 wrote: James wanted to collab with lou reed but not dave mustaine what a dumbass Whether you like Lulu or not, Lou Reed has made some incredible, and important, music. Pretty sure an awful lot of artists would happily collaborate with him! Plus, wouldn't it be more fun to work with someone who does something completely different to you, rather than someone from within your genre?
    It may be a more fun to play, it doesn't change that forming a supergroup with Dave and Megadeth would stop all the fighting between the fans, I mean, in most minds the fighting didn't stop.
    pathofgore1
    Well, I guess the rivalry and hatred between the bands is back... not that it ever left the fans.
    wickerman221
    Dear Dave, James and Lars. Hurry up and do the colab, for the fans. **** Love from annoying readers of UGs bullshit gossip posts. p.s DO THE FUCKIN ALBUM!!!!! \m/ WOOOOO
    Mouloudo
    ""But I do see a lot of stuff in the press with him talking about jamming with us and making an album. All this other crazy stuff." Yeah cause it's crazier too play with another Thrash king and former bandmate, than to do an " avant-garde" crappy album with Lou Reed
    Northernmight
    Oh yes, because it's when he talks about collaborations that he showcases his big mouth.. -.-'
    venom1stas
    Megadeth has better drummer, guitarist, basist and singer pretty much the same. If anything its in Metallica's interest to do this
    Maestro1600
    rhs5110 wrote: James wanted to collab with lou reed but not dave mustaine what a dumbass
    Whether you like Lulu or not, Lou Reed has made some incredible, and important, music. Pretty sure an awful lot of artists would happily collaborate with him! Plus, wouldn't it be more fun to work with someone who does something completely different to you, rather than someone from within your genre?