Motley Crue: 'Only Bands Whose Careers Were On Way Out Said Grunge Killed Rock'

"We supported that whole thing," says Vince Neil.

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Motley Crue vocalist Vince Neil recently addressed the "grunge killed rock" stance shared by some of his fellow musicians, especially those from the hair metal league.

Chatting with Q Magazine, Vince gave a different opinion, insisting that only musicians whose careers were on the downslide could say something like that.

"We went on 'Headbangers Ball' and we'd had an early pressing of 'Nevermind,'" Neil said (via Blabbermouth). "We were talking about a bunch of upcoming bands and told people to check that album out.

"We supported that whole thing," the singer stressed. "I don't know why people say grunge killed rock. Only people whose careers were on the way out said that. It didn't seem to kill us.

"I was talking to Courtney Love one time and she told me that one of Kurt [Cobain]'s favorite records was 'Too Fast for Love,'" he concluded.

Speaking of artists less supportive of grunge, Rob Zombie recently stated that "US rock has never recovered from the grunge movement." Furthermore, Animals as Leaders noted that "grunge killed guitar playing," while Testament guitarist Eric Peterson said that once "grunge plagued the world, metal was obsolete."

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    QOTSA-SFTD
    Grunge was the final nail in the coffin for Gregorian Chant.
    entropicxdisson
    ironic since Alice In Chain's vocal harmonies were inspired by Jerry Cantrell's love of Gregorian Chant.
    Gibson_SG_uzr55
    Hair metal killed itself by oversaturating the market. People were sick of it by the time grunge became a big thing, and all grunge did was fill the vacuum for a new musical fad, because it was something totally different from the old fad. Rock and metal fans, especially guitar players, really need to get off their high horse. Too many of them think that because something isn't at the forefront of popularity, it must be dead. Metal never went away simply because the corporate masses gave less of a shit. Hell, Pantera was huge in the 90s. I think people like Eric Peterson are butthurt, like Vince Neil said, because their career took a nosedive. Coming from someone who likes Testament.
    Neolwyn
    at 1:43
    jordo246
    Was that woman at the start aware of the thrash movement because metal was certainly NOT all about groupies and parties to them.
    Sixxstarr
    These are people that actually consider glam to be metal...their opinion on metal isn't valid
    Sundb3rg
    It depends on how you define grunge, I mean Alice in Chains is basically a hair metal band without the cheese and Soundgarden is a metal band at it's core.
    Unf
    In what way is Dirt hair metal?
    Bollockser
    It's not. Their early music is definitely metal. And damned good metal at that. They always kept their metal core and donned a grunge/alternative sound that kept them fresh, innovative, relevant, and ass-kicking.
    Rajah
    Exactly! Both of those bands have more roots in metal than in grunge.
    HitmanJenkins
    The thing about Grunge is that it wasn't really a genre to begin with, it was just a new buzzword for journalists to use in order to lump all the bands that played in Seattle together. Nirvana didn't sound like Mudhoney, who in turn didn't sound like Pearl Jam, who don't sound like Soundgarden or Alice in Chains.
    Gibson_SG_uzr55
    Those bands have metal influences but I definitely wouldn't call them metal themselves, even Nirvana was to a degree influenced by metal. They all had a Black Sabbath influence that you can hear and such, but I think calling even AiC metal is a stretch.
    Bollockser
    AIC was a great metal band who was able to adapt and become alternative and change their sound, same with Soundgarden; great bands never stay with one sound. Whereas Motley Crue and the whole hairspray scene were washed up coke fiends who self destructed by being makeuped phony douchebags everyone was sick of. Theyre still butt-hurt about being made obsolete laughing stocks by true ARTISTS, a quarter century later.
    rmack4341
    I could have sworn I saw a documentary maybe 10 years ago where Neil goes on about how he never understood the grunge movement, Nirvana, etc..., and why people would want to listen to crap about being depressed. Then he proceeded to insult the genre some more before they moved along to another topic. Can't find the interview though.
    PuckMugger
    Yes, I thought the same thing and he went on about how bitter he was towards the grunge movement. I wish I could remember where I saw that.
    Downfault
    It was a VH1 special title when "Metal Ruled The World". And those words are exactly what he said. This guy is full of it.
    Downfault
    Correction: "When Metal Ruled The World."
    BVSocialClub
    This is the band that changed their sound in Generation Swine to try to stay relevant during the 90's. "The album sold over 80,500 copies in its first week and was certified Gold by the RIAA on August 27, 1997. Despite the strong charting debut, the album failed to return the band to the level of critical and commercial success that had been hoped for with the reunion, and according to Nielsen SoundScan the album has sold about 306,000 copies in the U.S. to date." On the other hand Dr. Feelgood has sold over 6 million records. Hmmmm, what a disparity. I wonder why.
    HitmanJenkins
    Some of the songs off of Generation Swine were still pretty good though, coming from someone who likes their work prior to that.
    Downfault
    I always thought that "Grunge" was rock. So how did it kill rock?
    rmack4341
    Hear, hear. It "replaced" another genre of rock in terms of popularity at the time. I feel like at that time, there seemed to be room for rock and pop to be equally successful. Now however, rock is so faded from mainstream radio. I guess that could be good or bad depending on how you look at it. Me, I say bad. The popularity of Nevermind at that time, and other albums like the black album did expose your typical fairweather fan, but it also helped expose younger people to rock music in general. A wider audience is only a bad thing when the artist loses perspective, or simply doesn't care anymore.
    Sixxstarr
    It didn't...people just like to blame something for their irrelevance in the mainstream...
    Who66
    If you define rock as hair metal, and guitar playing as the most tasteless of hair metal playing, then maybe. Otherwise Grunge as a style no more killed guitar rock than hair metal killed new wave and punk, which killed prog/ and whatever the hell the Eagles represented. Just the biggest trends coming and going in order. naturally they are sort of pendulum like in whether they emphasise guitars or keys or synths and such.
    voodrew
    I think grunge just happened to have four or five of the best bands to come out of the early nineties. It wasn't like it lasted long. After Nirvana, Alice in Chains, and STP fell apart 93-96, it was over. Pearl Jam carried on, but even PJ's music was getting overshadowed by crappy Nu- metal and other bands like matchbox 20 by 95-96. 80's metal in my opinion had just as many great bands as grunge, it was just brought down by too many marginal ones. Grunge great bands - Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Mad Season, STP 80's metal great bands - Guns n Roses, Van Halen, Motley Crue, Ozzy, Queensryche, Def Leppard, Metallica
    TheGroundZero
    Pantera would beg to differ.
    entropicxdisson
    well Pantera wasn't a hair band they switched at the perfect time. There was plenty of good 90's metal but it wasn't mainstream like the glam metal of the 80's.
    voodrew
    I believe the biggest downturn in the quality of rock music was from 94 to 95. In around that period of time: Metallica, Guns n Roses, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, STP, Ozzy, Van Halen, Aerosmith, AC/DC, and Smashing Pumpkins all either broke up or starting putting out music I didn't like. I still do not understand why every good rock group, in my opinion, stopped being great in 95.
    entropicxdisson
    At The Gates - Slaughter Of the Soul Dark Tranquility - The Gallery Down - NOLA Darkthrone - Panzerfaust My Dying Bride - The Angel and the Dark River Paradise Lost - Draconian Times Death - Symbolic Cathedral - The Carnival Bizarre Alice In Chains - Alice In Chains Opeth - Orchid Immortal - Battles In The North Dissection - Storm of Light's Bane Fear Factory - Demanufacture Kyuss - ...And The Circus Leaves Town metal was just fine in '95
    jordo246
    Opeth could have kept metal alive just by themselves, from 95-2000 they put out Orchid, Morningrise, My Arms Your Hearse and Still Life.
    mrsuns10
    It seems to be that when a new genre of Rock appears it always kills off another genre of rock
    rabidgoon
    so vince neil, a known liar, was supposedly told by courtney love (someone pretty much only known for being a sociopathic habitual liar at this point), that Kurt Cobain liked a crappy album he had once made, even though his band pretty much represents everything Kurt Cobain despised... sounds believable to me.
    siamesedream777
    Vince, grunge exploded in 91... and your band died after Dr. Feelgood, and that was in 1990. So it doesnte matter you we're already dead by that time.
    irs8686
    Actually I think they toured Dr. Feelgood pretty extensively through 1992.
    christianonbass
    I am still wondering why a band was automatically considered "Grunge" because of the members' address. I remember hearing Rusty Cage on Headbanger's Ball (see folks, MTV used to play music videos...music videos are those things you watch on YouTube)and I thought it was Speed Metal. Most Grunge was none other than kick ass music. I consider guitarists like Cantrell to be very astute at playing their instrument. They might not be as flashy as some of their predecessors; but, thankfully, they didn't write shit like She's My Cherry Pie, or She's only 17!!!
    kiba56
    Cherry pie is a great song and so is seventeen, each of those were like one of warrants and. Wingers really good songs...
    Patres87
    Ironically Crue's best album is the one without Neil from the peak of the grunge era.
    notaconotaco
    No one, in the history of the world, has ever said that grunge killed rock. Grunge saved rock from being killed by the horrible rock bands of the late 80s... like Motley Crue.
    notaconotaco
    No one, in the history of the world, has ever said that grunge killed rock. Grunge SAVED rock from the horrible rock bands of the late 80s.... like Motley Crue.
    dr718
    Dream Theater and Pantera rose all the way through the 90's. You could make it-you just had to play a hell of a lot better than most of the 2nd rate 80's make-up queens.
    LordoftheBlack
    most rock in the 80's insisted upon itself. it was, for the most part, horrible music and i'm glad it died. i just wish someone other than nirvana stepped up
    MEGADETHGOD
    I guess it depends on how you look at it. After Nirvana, everyone started wearing flannel. Guitar solo's and long hair became taboo. Obviously, things changed. To pin point one band as the sole contributor is ludicrous. I do believe Nirvana had a large part in it. Then again, you also have your Alice In Chains', Pearl Jams' and Soundgragens'.