Mustaine To African Women: 'Put A Plug In It'

Dave Mustaine is making a name for himself with outrageous comments recently.

Mustaine To African Women: 'Put A Plug In It'
11
Dave Mustaine is making a name for himself with outrageous comments recently. The latest verbal slip-up from the Megadeth frontman could prove the most offensive yet. He says African women should stop having children and "put a plug in it" if they can't afford to feed them. "I really think that, if the parents aren't going to stick together, they shouldn't make that kind of commitment to life" Mustaine casually told LA Weekly. "I watch some of these shows from over in Africa, and you've got starving women with six kids. Well, how about, you know, put a plug in it? It's like, you shouldn't be having children if you can't feed them." It follows similarly controversial comments on gay marriage, where he refused to support legislation to allow two men to marry, and his backing of Rick Santorum which provoked a huge reaction in the UG community. Of course, Mustaine is entitled to free speech, but he may underestimate that contraception is poorly distributed in certain areas of Africa. Crippled economies contribute to the difficulty, with 239 million people living in hunger in sub-Saharan Africa. Mustaine's opinions often stem from his Christian beliefs. While Christianity is generally an understanding and forgiving religion, it can often conflict with modern liberal views. The resulting arguments can sometimes skew the debate, but it's clear the Megadeth frontman is simply trying to follow his faith. "Even if you don't believe in God and you don't believe in faith, you've got to understand, when Israel became a country again, that was a prophecy in the Bible that came true, and the Bible was written so many hundreds of years ago," he said in the same interview. "Also, any of the stuff that it says in there about the end times - that stuff's really happening right now. Look what's happening over in the Middle East. It's crazy." Did Mustaine step way out of line with his comments, or should he use his public platform as he pleases? Share your reaction in the comments.

427 comments sorted by best / new / date

comments policy
    Zan595
    You know, I really hate what Dave's been saying lately, but I actually agree with him here. Not just for inhabitants of Africa, but in any situation- if you can't support a kid, don't have kids.
    Anomie
    Mr. Mustaine was one of the reasons I started playing back about 15 years ago... now, I have to secretly admire his chops while my respect for him dwindles. Dave you are a smarter person than this, or at least led yourself on to be pretty intelligent, bit of a dick, but intelligent. Man, I know times are tough, but maybe putting these emotions into WRITING MUSIC would be a better solution... not your religious beliefs in EVERY reporter's microphone... It's sad to see your hero become someone whom he is not and will never be, yet he tries so hard. Plug in the guitar, and start snarlin' Dave.
    westley23j
    i totally agree with Dave. not so much over in other countries, but here in the States. have you seen some of the baby factories walking around Walmart late at night?! holy cow!
    JBougazelli
    Does he not realize that there are poor trailer trash people living here in the states feeding off our tax money to support their habits, and there 6 kids?
    iommi600
    Well, Mustaine is revealing himself as a class A douchebag, recently... but I think this actually makes some sense. I don't see a good reason to bring a child into this world to suffer and starve to death. But obviously, it's a lot of easier to say... there's many factors beyond it, like lack of sexual education and preservatives... You can't just "put a plug in it"...
    getts182
    thedukeofprunes wrote: [Christians] think they can get away with the utmost idiotic and immoral statments because they have some sort of supernatural, occult warranty.
    Please don't paint us all with that brush. As a Christian, I find Mustiane's comments reprehensible. They marginalize, which is something opposite of what I believe is at the core of Jesus' teachings. The God I believe in is one of love, a God of love, understanding, and compassion. The God I believe in loves His children all the same, whether they're born in the United States or Africa, whether they're Christians, Muslims, atheists, or anywhere in between. I don't mean that to be preachy -- I know religion can be rather...touchy...here -- but I want to get the point across that we're not narrow-minded zealots. As with a lot of cases, this is just another example of the guy with the loudest mouth making everyone look bad.
    getts182
    "I watch some of these shows from over in Africa, and you've got starving women with six kids . Well, how about, you know, put a plug in it? It's like, you shouldn't be having children if you can't feed them."
    I'm sure many would agree with that. If only, you know, rapists would consider that. Or if only contraception were more readily available in the region. Or maybe if Dave Mustaine had an actual grasp on the myriad of problems that face African nations. I'm not saying I have the answers, but what I do know is that Africa is an extremely complicated region that faces a lot of problems that aren't black and white. It's not as simple as Mustaine makes it sound.
    Bati
    And this is why we'll never see a Megadeath "Unplugged" album.
    aznspadez
    Well considering how contraception is not widely available in Africa, the women may not necessarily infer that the women have a choice of "plugging it" or having children at all. Consider a woman who has a firm christian belief but has a child in an unfortunate circumstance, would she need to "put a plug in it?" Moreover, when considering the lack of contraception and often unreported cases of rape, it is very possible that those children are themselves products of rape. I know that republican ideology or christian ideology considers abortion murder, but it now begs the question, are victims of rape responsible for the birth and development of children conceived through rape or are they now allowed to abort an unwanted child?
    spiff-corgi
    Why don't famous people think before speaking. Why do African people have lots of children? They have little access to condoms firstly. Secondly there is a very low survival rate and in order to keep a family going they need kids to start work as young as possible. If one of their kids dies that's one source of income lost, so they have as many kids as they can so they can afford to stay alive as a family. Yes, it's a broken system, but not something that can be solved by simply "putting a plug in it".
    nailsarecruel
    Africa is a sadly and complexly screwed up country, but it's nice of Dave to simplify the issue by implying the women are totally hot to trot baby factories. Rape, lack of sexual education and religious driven ignorance? No way. Those ladies are always on the prowl for some blacksnake.
    Lightning_Ray
    Zan595 wrote: You know, I really hate what Dave's been saying lately, but I actually agree with him here. Not just for inhabitants of Africa, but in any situation- if you can't support a kid, don't have kids.
    I can see his point, but here's the catch: in many cultures, with those being frequent in some African and Asian countries, there's a whole lot of cultural factors that you just can't ignore! In some, a person with a considerable number of children is someone who's been blessed and deserves respect, not to mention that in those countries, most people barely have any access to artificial birth control methods. This whole subject just can't be settled with a simple "Put A Plug In It" like Dave did.
    WhoAMEye
    Whilst the whole issue of starving in Africa is sad and difficult Mr Mustaine doesn't seem to grasp the complexities of life. People can be fine one week and destitute the next, culture, religion, war and natural disaster amongst others can turn a manageable family life into a nightmare like this in no time. This can happen anywhere in the developing world and no one can really plan for any of it. Those of us in the western world are protected to a greater or lesser extent and Dave's rather simplistic view only echoes the ignorance that can be born from that.
    HowSoonisNow
    Like what someone else here said, we have a similar problem here in the States. It's all about the lack of sex education. It makes me sick when parents refuse to let their kids go to sex ed. How will they ever know the truth? A lot of teens probably think pulling out is good enough.
    jordanzio
    ahh Dave. opening his mouth about issues he clearly doesn't understand. 1. Sub-Saharan Africa is a place rife with poverty, disease and RAPE, which is not the fault of women. 2. birth control is virtually non -existent there 3. along with extreme poverty comes a lack of any real education. Women are not able to make educated decisions about child-bearing. 4. boredom. In places like Sub-Saharan Africa and areas in India people literally having nothing to do. they have no money, no possessions, and nothing to take up their time. Sex is one of the most basic pastimes. 5. Dave you can't tell me you haven't stuck it in way more women than you have kids, so don't act as though you are all high and mighty. the Fact that you don't have a kid for everytime you have had sex (or many of the times at least) is due to first world innovations and luxuries (readily available, cheap birth control)
    Banti
    He stopped whining about getting kicked from metallica, and now he has new stuff to whine about XD
    one-dead-cop
    What's all this nonsense about condoms?? Do women being raped ask the guy if he's wearing a condom first? Dave Mustaine's an imbecile, and so is anyone who defends him.
    philwhite
    I'm starting to like the new dave. I think this article is just another attempt at UG trying to make news that really isn't.
    Jordoro
    spiff-corgi wrote: Why don't famous people think before speaking. Why do African people have lots of children? They have little access to condoms firstly. Secondly there is a very low survival rate and in order to keep a family going they need kids to start work as young as possible. If one of their kids dies that's one source of income lost, so they have as many kids as they can so they can afford to stay alive as a family. Yes, it's a broken system, but not something that can be solved by simply "putting a plug in it".
    This should have just ended the discussion.
    kramer242
    I do agree with most of what Mustaine is saying. How many of us have wanted to say this but havent cuz god help we offend someone. I think he was wrong about singling out Africa because this goes on all over the world, although looking at the state of many areas of Africa, its easy to see why it got singled out. Also, children who are the products of rape cannot be helped, but while rape is rampant over there, I would bet any money it is only causes a small portion of the increase in population in poor African areas. It would also be nice if some of the donations made went towards condoms and other resources, to help prevent pregnancy, along with the food. I feel for the people who are not trying to bring children into a poor lifestyle, because the ones who do, with little caution, are making them look bad.
    Calymos
    Isn't anybody else annoyed by the fact that UG never gets their own news? Is it just me?
    Amuro Jay
    Actually, I take back what I said. Dave doesn't have a point regardless. He doesn't understand how society works in those areas and that these women don't have the rights they do in America and they're probably having these kids against their own will. Rape is a huge problem in Africa, and some women don't have a say in when they want to even have non-rapey sex. Daddy just wants to bust a nut. It's not like these women are having six kids apiece because they want them, you know.
    "Tele" Steve
    Granted, he has a point about not having kids if you can't take care of them but the issue, especially in Africa, is never quite that simple.
    Randomrings
    They do put a plug in it, it's called rape. That's how they end up with six kids Dave. His comment on the other hand works perfectly for starving American women with six kids
    electric_c0ck
    the kids are starving in africa and there is lots of diseases. mustaine isnt even talking about african-american women hes talking about the poor country of africa where they have too many kids and the kids get aids/starve to death and dont make it to a double digit age. this is my first time leaving a comment but i read articles and comments and alot of you people are morons.
    pailoong
    "...and his backing of Rick Santorum which provoked a huge reaction in the UG community." Yeah, because the UG "community" is actually important.
    FrankenFoot
    ne14t wrote: I am currently deleting all the Megadeth off my iPod, I fear I will become too much like Dave Mustaine if I am over exposed to it and I would rather not be a over zealous racist bigot.
    If you're really afraid of your opinions changing because of the music you listen to, you're proving how little you can think for yourself.
    Suckerpunchme!
    Zan595 wrote: You know, I really hate what Dave's been saying lately, but I actually agree with him here. Not just for inhabitants of Africa, but in any situation- if you can't support a kid, don't have kids.
    Agreed. There's plenty of white trash in the US doing the exact same thing. Get ****ing sick of paying for their unemployment, food stamps, medical, etc. because they don't have any ****ing sense.
    Kingwiff606
    I think mustaine makes quite a valid point here, that is neither racist or offensive, I have one child myself, although I would like more I can't financially afford the upbringing to a quality I would desire, it's the same thing, if you can't feed them and they have no quality of life then why would you bring a child into immediate suffering, well said mustaine. Someone sooner or later needed to say this
    felixramsey
    I agree. Everyone wants to pick people's comments apart. If it's the least bit offensive, they wanna crucify you. Stop being so god damn sensitive.
    jurnag12
    Alright, I'm now convinced that people are just asking Dave's opinion on random subjects jsut to watch the firestorms start. I give it a week before someone asks his opinion on the subject of abortion.
    getts182
    thedukeofprunes wrote: With all due respect, I don't find it necessary to focus on extremists and loud-mouths to tell that the religious dogma in itself is immoral and evil. And it is undoubtedly true that christians (as well as other servants to monotheistic cults, foremost) have gotten away with the most despicable and horrible statements only due to the fact that they are "a person of faith".
    While I obviously don't agree with the sentiment that religion itself is "immoral and evil", I do agree that people have committed horrible acts because they said God told them to. Take terrorists of any religious stripe, for example. Almost any practitioner of that faith will tell you the person who used God and their beliefs in such a manner has committed a perversion of the faith. No one should, as you said, get away with committing atrocities because "God told them to." Personally, I don't think that's how God works.
    I found this display of ignorance and adventurism from Dave Mustaines side immoral, and it is not an exception from what I usually hear from religious people. There are many things that can't be justified when it comes to religious peoples view on what ethics and morals is, and it doesn't have to be as apparent and controversial as this particular topic.
    I agree. I live in a red, red state, and I often hear/read things from people of my faith that seems to completely contradict basic principles of "love one another" and "do unto others as you would have done unto you." Morality can, in my opinion, be a tricky subject, and I think all sides of an argument have value. I find it unfortunate that many people, religious and irreligious shut out the opposite side because "they're right."
    People should not be satisfied with explanations of love and tolerance when it comes to totalitarian rulers of another world. Especially if you've actually read the bible. Everyone should have the choice to believe in what they want in the privacy of their home, but acts of such stupidity cannot be left contented.
    Again, totalitarian rulers are an extreme, often perverting the faith they claim to follow. Zealots always give people who try to follow their faith quietly and respectfully a bad name. Militant atheists do the same for those who simply don't believe there is a God and leave it at that. No one should have someone else's views shoved down their throats, and no one should be labeled a freak because someone else takes their faith (or lack thereof) to an extreme. Hopefully that all made sense. I think we agree that his points on the subject were out of line. At the risk of this turning wholly off-topic or becoming a tangent, I'll respectfully leave it at that and wish you well.
    Spekulus
    guitar_shredda* wrote: Some of the posts on here are absolutely ignorant and ridiculous. If you have never been to Africa then don't comment. "Condoms are not freely available" That is absolute trash! Im from South Africa and almost every bathroom you walk into on the street or in the malls has plenty of free condoms available. Many black men here do not use them because in their culture it is "un-manly" to use condoms. Contraception is also available from any pharmacy for about 7 US dollars and from any public health clinic for free. Many black people here simply do not care for contraception or condoms, its just something that is embedded in the mindset of many people here and the government has been trying hard to change that especially due to the HIV pandemic. I know at the varsity I go to people do not take the free condoms whether you are black white coloured or blue so I guess the governments free condom plans have failed.
    Let me see ive read this right. In south Africa you have bathrooms which implies you have WATER. Are you really telling me every country in Africa is equally wealthy? Contraception would be a great idea however there's a problem with these things called missionaries who like to tell everyone that contraception is a sin. Can anyone guess what religion they're preaching?
    gabocrbll
    Im with mustaine with this one. Maybe the way he said it wasnt the best, but still true
    Necromicon
    I agree with him, it's not a very "nice" thing to say, but that goes through of lots of people's mind. The problem is the positive prejudice installed for some cultures.
    welliott
    DamagingExcess wrote: The reason most of these women have that many babies is because they are consistently raped multiple times. Are you really that dumb Dave. Last shred of respect gone
    lol "shred"