Mustaine's On-Stage Twinkie Rant

Dave Mustaine has crossed his wires on US politics in another on-stage rant, which includes blaming Obama for Twinkies going out of business.

Mustaine's On-Stage Twinkie Rant
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Dave Mustaine has once again crossed his wires on US politics in another on-stage rant, which includes blaming Obama for Twinkies going out of business. From the stage in Atlantic City last week, he suggested to the audience that the United States could fall apart: "Right now there are 47 states in the United States of America that wanna secede [withdraw from] from the United States of America. And what 'secede' actually means is that they don't wanna have any part of this bullsh-t any more. "Whether you are a Democract or a Republican or a Libertarian or an Independent, it doesn't matter. What matters is that we're Americans and we are not being treated right." In fact, all 50 states currently have petitions for secession from the US. They've been posted to the We The People website, where any petition reaching 25,000 signatures will get an official response from the White House. Of course, this doesn't mean there is a serious movement to break up the US. It's likely to be a minority of angry Republicans who are bitter at losing the recent election. Mustaine's rant didn't end there: "Did you hear that the people that make Twinkies today are going out of business after 82 years?" he asked. "It's really sad. It's an 82-year-old institution they are going out of business because of this bullsh-t that is going on right now in the government. And that means 18,000 more people are going on unemployment and it's gonna be your responsibility to pay for them. It's just not fair." Mustaine forgets to consider that the closure could be an effect of the global recession that hit America before Obama took office, and which no Western government has managed to solve. Watch Mustaine talk politics in the live video here:

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    Joss_Frusciante
    I must say though, We're all pretty bummed about the Twinkies, no need to take it out on Obama. Oh, and Also, Shitstorm brewing below.
    pantallica87
    His on-stage rants is gonna cause his band to walk out on him. Im sure their tired of it by now.
    opusthecat
    Oh please...what else do these guys have to do? It's not like there's a ton of metal gigs around with the kind of money Dave pays. They keep their traps shut so the paychecks keep coming.
    Jazz1992
    Can't wait to blame Obama for failing my last exam. I don't even live in the US, but so f*cking what!
    introvert10
    Officially the three biggest sore loser pussies in the USA. In no particular order: Dave Mustaine The "Cat Scratch Fever" guy (his irrelevancy leading me to forget his name) Donald Trump
    craigdevlin_1
    Ted Nugent, and he is definitely the worst of the three.
    dannydesktop
    i don't know dave mustaine and nugent are head to head, only difference is mustaine has actually written a couple good songs.
    stonedhippos
    and he's not a redneck.
    JohnnyCNote
    Oh, so acting like one doesn't necessarily mean he is one? Every time he opens his mouth he proves how detached from reality he really is. Oh, and maybe calling him a redneck would be an insult to rednecks in general . . .
    purplexing
    lolol is he really insinuating that a majority of the people in those 47 states are tired of Obama? Why did they vote for him then? Must have been a hell of a shock when the 'evil communist' won the popular vote.
    JelloCrust
    Actually that was UG saying that the petitions are in 47 states. This oddity is easily answered though. You see anybody, and I mean anybody (even people in the artic with a computer and internet) can e-sign one of those petitions. Basically it is the same people signing the petitions in each state over and over again.
    guitar7masta
    and the petitions they're signing are useless, they're doing it through the White House website. They need to write to Congress, the executive branch can't do anything but offer a statement if they even reach 25,000 signatures, and you can be damn sure that statement will be... *clears throat* "No." *walks away*
    Breakingpoint56
    Oh we haven't seen the end of it. People still think he'll be ousted by the electoral college in December when they do their vote. lol.
    guitar7masta
    Whaaaaa?
    Breakingpoint56
    Yeah! Every election year in December the electoral college has the final say over who won or lost the election. Look into it. It essentially says that even though we "exercised" our right to vote, it can be overturned by a small group of people. ISN'T DEMOCRACY AWESOME
    guitar7masta
    I'm confused, are you continuing to be satirical? Or do you believe this stuff? The electoral college is determined by the amount of votes in each district. It's already done, it happens on election night in conjunction with the voters. Obama won the Electoral College 332 to 206.
    Breakingpoint56
    Oh I'm not disputing he won. But it's not bullshit either. Yes, Obama won on election night the votes needed however, electoral reps from each state have a final say on Dec. 17th. http://miscellanyblue.com/post/361532501...
    guitar7masta
    It's just some lunatics from the Tea Party, that isn't going to come to fruition. These kinds of threats are made all the time. We've even seen the Republican party walking away from extremist remarks like that, they will never get the support they require.
    Scourge441
    To clarify this: The Electoral College votes are not just a number we assign to each state. It is comprised of actual people who cast an actual ballot and elect the President. Each party has electors in each state who pledge to vote for a certain candidate. When you vote for President, you are actually electing the people who make up the Electoral College, and it is those people who actually elect the President. These electors cast their ballots in December. In the US, there's a couple of twists to this. You can have an unpledged elector, who does not promise to vote for a candidate, and you can have a faithless elector, who pledges for one candidate and then votes for another. We haven't seen unpledged electors since 1964, and faithless electors have never impacted the result of an election. However, the electoral votes Obama "won" could, in fact, be cast for Romney or another candidate.
    saint_berzerker
    The fact that he won the popular vote just reinforces the point that most Americans are brain dead zombies. How can someone approve of the last 4 years? Even if they don't like Romney, how do you vote in confidence of the last 4 years? It's been a disaster. Chicago and Detroit are wastelands, and they vote for him. Ohio is a barren, jobless desert, yet they vote again for this man. I didn't vote for either of them. To do so is to show brain impotence.
    J.Berzerker
    I always read articles about D. Mustaine for the laughs and other users' comments.
    Breakingpoint56
    GAWD. This guy talks out of his ass constantly. The CEO's had given themselves nice bonuses like every other board of directors and then realized it was too much and ****ed the workers as an end result. He's too busy being pissed about Obama to realize that the way business is run in this country is completely poisonous and bullshit! OH YES DAVE. It's Obamas fault that banks were doing dirty shit and needed bailed out. YES DAVE. It was Obamas fault that on the board of governors at the Federal Reserve had CEO's of banks bailing out their OWN companies. Cause every horrible business decision has been Obamas doing. Yeah he's spent a shit ton of money and I think its been a huge waste, but he did not cause the ****ing recession.
    latinromans
    People just tend to way overestimate how much influence politicians have on the economy, it's the one issue politicians probably have least control over (well besides drug use and peoples sex lives) and it's the issue that makes or breaks most candidates. If jimmy carter and ronald reagean switched years our perceptions of them would have been very very different.
    Breakingpoint56
    I think the bigger issue is people are not taking corporations to task enough. Giving huge surplus bonuses on million dollar salaries shouldn't be happening. Give back to your workers. They are the reason you make money.
    Schwimmy
    Dammit Dave! Seriously, this guy is such an awesome musician. Why does he have to go and do shit like this?
    scawti
    No offense to Dave, but if 47 out of 51 states want to leave the USA just because Obama is president, wouldn't it have been a lot easier to just vote him out? That looks like a majority to me. But, I went to graduate school, my math might not be as good as almighty educated Dave Mustaine.
    siffudoodle
    I don't believe that he's directly blaming Obama, but he's blaming the current Economy within America, even though what he's saying is complete bullshit. The Hostess company is going out of business because of the poor pay that most of the workers were getting and cutting of worker benefits. Dave you're an excellent musician, but please, please, keep your mouth shut - Sincerely everybody
    JelloCrust
    Like I said up above, it is a ploy to sell the company to a parent company so that the union that the workers had will cease to be. But really, what I wanted to say is, Dave Mustaine is over rated
    Breakingpoint56
    Considering the gov't does make the financial policy decisions that are ok'd by Obama, directly referencing the gov't, he did blame Obama. Even if he is wrong for the most part. Yes, EBT has gotten bad. I work at a gas station where people come in constantly buying junk food and its abuse that needs curbed but nobody listens to the people. The sooner everyone figures out that its all a dog and pony show, the smarter everyone will be and we'll see real change. Obama and Romney were interchangeable. There would have been no real change.
    Somerandomguy95
    Let's all just reply in big paragraphs to make it look like you know what your talking about.
    Breakingpoint56
    Lets type in small, snarky sentences to convey we have higher intellects while not elaborating to justify our snobby attitude.
    Arr0wHead
    Kind of a witch hunt here - I see a lot of people putting words in Dave's mouth. Is the US government partly responsible for the economic decline in the last 10 years? Yes. Does Dave reference that? Yes. Are people then putting words in his mouth to make it seem he's aiming it specifically at Obama? yes.
    reason84
    Bingo, you nailed it. As I wrote below, it's quite speculative to say Mustaine is "blaming Obama" when he doesn't even mention his name.
    Braykah
    It may indeed have a part in the economic recession, but do they have anything to do with the bankruptcy of Hostess Brands, which is clearly the responsibility of the company management? No. And isn't Obama the head of state, and has been blamed countless occasions before for the country's problems by Mustaine? Yes. There you have it. And no one is putting words into his mouth, for that matter. Besides, criticism of stupid statements =/= witch hunt
    Breakingpoint56
    Has Dave also not bitched relentlessly about Obama? Lets just call it an educated guess. The gov't doesn't create the money, the federal reserve does so at any point the Feds could be like "Yeah, no. We don't think that policy is a good idea. Lets go back to the drawing board." But no. The gov't, like an addict is like I just need 450 billion till tuesday man...and the feds are like "how could this go wrong?"
    bassthunder
    Not really Obama's fault. The company has had a history of mistreating its workers, and they went under in the face of strike.
    iljh
    Regardless of how ridiculous his statements may be or may seem, it isn't good journalism to take obvious sides while writing an article.
    Spenner2810
    Let's not mix politics up with music. One brings spiritual ecstasy, the other is fodder for bickering children. As music lovers let's rise above it.
    KerNeL_KLuTcH
    if bush had been president he would have been blamed for twinkies, so everyone shut the **** up.