Ozzy Becomes A Vegan

He's bitten the head off of a bat, he's bitten the head off of a dove, but, at least for the time being, Ozzy Osbourne has sworn off of meat altogether.

Ozzy Becomes A Vegan
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He's bitten the head off of a bat, he's bitten the head off of a dove, but, at least for the time being, Ozzy Osbourne has sworn off of meat altogether. In fact, as Noisecreep has reported, the one time Black Sabbath singer has turned over a new leaf, literally, by embracing a vegan diet for what the Prince of Darkness cites as health reasons. Reportedly, after his assistant showed him the vegan documentary Forks over Knives, Ozzy decided that it was time to cut meat, fish, dairy and anything else derived from animals out of his diet. Speaking on Sharon Osbourne's chat show, The Talk, the singer revealed that he his feeling the benefits: "I feel OK actually, I feel better about myself, you know? I go on binges. That's the reason why I decided to cut out meat out and dairy because I've limited what I can have because when you're on the road and you're travelling, you grab buns and... burgers are everywhere... so now I've just narrowed the margin." Ozzy's new lifestyle choice comes hot on the heels of the news that he and his Black Sabbath alumni, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward may begin rehearsals for a final reunion tour. Braveworlds have recently published a rumour that, were Sabbath to reunite, they may be part of a tour package with fellow Birmingham metal legends Judas Priest, as well as speed metal pioneers Motorhead. That tour would reportedly be happening in the US in Spring 2012, with Sabbath then returning to Europe for the festival season in June or July. If Sabbath do hit the road again, Ozzy may find some camaraderie from his new dietary choice in band member Geezer Butler. The bassist is a longstanding vegan, and has appeared in advertising campaigns for P.E.T.A.

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    Page/Rhoads
    Why would Ozzy ever worry about health? If he's not immortal, no one is.
    DeadlySurfer
    And begin the war of vegan/veggies vs meat eaters. How about we all settle down and have our own opinions.
    BaptizedinFire
    BigMikeBDD wrote: Humans were meant to eat meat...end of story.
    Humans were meant to eat nutrients, whatever way shape or form they may come in.
    toyboxmonster
    but if you work out and want to get women you should eat meat. Men need meat for proper muscle growth as well as how it makes you look. People who get protein fake ways like from soy your body treats it more like estrogen and you get girl boobs, wide hips, etc. In other words, being a vegan is only 100% good for you if your a woman, since having extra estrogen is a good thing for them, not for men. It will make a man look like a hideous freak or some weak string bean, no thank you, I happen to like the way girls wrap themselves around my arm. It's why I work out
    Dear God. I don't like getting involved in arguments about morality and practicality of vegetarian diets because there simply isn't room for a proper discussion in the comment section of UG news articles, but the amount of misinformation in this post is mind-blowing. Let's pick your post apart: 1) no one needs meat, per se, to grow muscles. What they do need (among other things) is protein. 2) There is no such thing as fake protein. The protein in the meat that you eat comes from the grass and/or soy that was fed to the cow (or other animal) from which the meat was taken. 3) Your body does not treat the protein as estrogen. It is simply the case that unfermented soy (as well as other fods like beans, lentils, beer) contains phytoestrogens, chemicals which act like estrogen in the body. However, most research I've seen indicates that the amount of phytoestrogens in soy is not enough to cause any sort of change in your body's functioning. In any case, there are plenty of other sources to get plant-based protein, tempeh (fermented soy, which contains no phytoestrogens) being one of them. I've been vegan for 3 years and have no womanly curves. I have several friends who have been vegan for well over 20 years, and none of them exhibit the symptoms you mention. 4) Your statement that "having extra estrogen is a good thing [for women]" demonstrates your rather flimsy understanding of hormones and the ways in which they affect the body.
    HaistaPaska92
    BigMikeBDD wrote: Humans were meant to eat meat...end of story.
    actually, humans were meant to eat whatever the hell we want. As long as we can digest it
    deathofagod
    Well that's an amazing piece of news right there. I will store this in my "useless trivia" synapse.
    PaisleyWilde
    Good for him getting healthy! I would hate for anything bad to happen before I was able to see him perform with Black Sabbath!
    Parkesie959
    Exxonyd wrote: frusciante08 wrote: human's dna is 99.8% similar to that of monkeys and they eat nothing but fruits and vegetables. and they also do not ever get diseases such as cancer, heart disease, etc. coincidence? maybe we were meant to only eat fruits and vegetables. Humans eat meat --> smart/dominant species Monkes eat fruits -->not so smart ;P
    That is possibly the worst argument I have ever seen...
    iup788
    How can you tell apart an atheist, a christian, and a vegan? They'll tell you.
    TheSilverBeatle
    kerokero wrote: Motorhead, Judas Priest, Sabbath. What a BAD rumour. As much as I'd love to see this...it'll never happen! At least not for this spring. Good on Ozzy for making the switch. I loves me my meat, but the occasional Veggie/vegan stint can do wonders on a persons body.
    Yeah that would be like Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer getting together...oh wait.
    toyboxmonster
    Nwright14 wrote: Or maybe it's because monkeys don't eat processed white sugar, flour, trans fats and other unhealthy shit that people shovel into their bodies all the time? Humans have been eating meat for thousands of years and yet many of these diseases have only been a problem for humanity for the last 100 years or so. I'm pretty sure it's not the meat.
    Moving away from ethics and onto questions of health, I'd like to make two points: 1) Note that the problems you talk about have risen at the same time as economic conditions have allowed us to consume too much meat. So to the extent that people become unhealthy from overconsumption of meat, it is the meat itself, I think. 2) I entirely agree that, given proper rations, eating meat is likely beneficial to health; however, the various chemicals that are fed to commercially-raised animals are rather likely to be detrimental to health. If your sole concern is health, I would recommend buying meat from a small, local producer (preferably organic). Since such a producer is unlikely to own a factory farm, I would recommend this from an ethical perspective also.
    boomhower52
    hansome21 wrote: Maybe veggies are good for people who are a little "unbalanced" but if you work out and want to get women you should eat meat. Men need meat for proper muscle growth as well as how it makes you look. People who get protein fake ways like from soy your body treats it more like estrogen and you get girl boobs, wide hips, etc. In other words, being a vegan is only 100% good for you if your a woman, since having extra estrogen is a good thing for them, not for men. It will make a man look like a hideous freak or some weak string bean, no thank you, I happen to like the way girls wrap themselves around my arm. It's why I work out
    Has anyone ever told you how gay you are? if not let me be the first..
    LesThanPaul
    ne14t wrote: Also red meat has been linked several times to Colorectal, Oesophageal, Lung, Pancreatic and Endometrial caners. Cardiovascular diseases, Diabetes, Obesity, Hypertension and Arthritis.
    I hate when people just list diseases that meat can be linked too. I would say most people eat meat (assumption), so of course more people who get these diseases are going to be meat consumers. There's no problem if you don't want to eat meat, but it's just annoying when vegans try to shove health facts down our throats. The human body is perfectly capable of digesting meat as well as vegetables.
    kerokero
    Motorhead, Judas Priest, Sabbath. What a BAD rumour. As much as I'd love to see this...it'll never happen! At least not for this spring. Good on Ozzy for making the switch. I loves me my meat, but the occasional Veggie/vegan stint can do wonders on a persons body.
    kerrang
    frusciante08 wrote on 10/27/2011 - 11:54 am / quote | human's dna is 99.8% similar to that of monkeys and they eat nothing but fruits and vegetables. and they also do not ever get diseases such as cancer, heart disease, etc. coincidence? maybe we were meant to only eat fruits and vegetables.
    Sharks are the only animals that don't "get" cancer, they're perfectly capable of destroying cellular mutagens. Further; we need a balanced diet. Eating meat isn't "wrong" in any sense, and to be honest a world view that seeks to circumvent a natural food chain, to me is rather embarrassing. Veganism is a self-limiting lifestyle, but it doesn't do you any good other than thinking you made a world difference by not eating a chicken's baby for dinner with a side of cow's leg.
    kerrang
    Canine teeth settle the argument here. We're omnivorous, meaning that we need the nutrients found in meats (namely proteins) but these can be found in other foodstuffs. Naturally we eat meat, but we don't have to. However, cats (for example) are hyper-carnivores. They have to eat meat or else they'll die. Personally, I don't see how anyone could pass up a good steak.
    Nwright14
    frusciante08 wrote: human's dna is 99.8% similar to that of monkeys and they eat nothing but fruits and vegetables. and they also do not ever get diseases such as cancer, heart disease, etc. coincidence? maybe we were meant to only eat fruits and vegetables.
    Or maybe it's because monkeys don't eat processed white sugar, flour, trans fats and other unhealthy shit that people shovel into their bodies all the time? Humans have been eating meat for thousands of years and yet many of these diseases have only been a problem for humanity for the last 100 years or so. I'm pretty sure it's not the meat.
    kerrang
    Aliens-exist182 wrote: I've been a vegan for 2 years, and It has done wonders for my bipolar disorder, admittedly, I was manic when I made the decision....
    LMAO
    myfirebird
    I'm a t-bone man.Cook it medium well on the grill and the last few minutes brush butter over the top of it.Tossed salad with bacon bits and Italian dressing.Huge potato-butter,sour cream and salt to taste.Sauteed mushrooms(portabello)- Shrimp Cocktail-Large glass of cold beer
    zeek7pc
    frusciante08 wrote: human's dna is 99.8% similar to that of monkeys and they eat nothing but fruits and vegetables. and they also do not ever get diseases such as cancer, heart disease, etc. coincidence? maybe we were meant to only eat fruits and vegetables.
    ummm... Monkeys eat meat. Chimps hunt other monkeys and eat them.
    gnfnrs
    peachesenregali wrote: gnfnrs wrote: Ya its just the same as vegans there main arrgument is that its bad to eat a living thing. Well last time i checked plants are a ****ing living thing You have won.....I've never encountered a sentient plant. What jungle do you live in?
    not only that plants are sentient - they can certainly communicate through chemical signals and have complex responses to stimuli - but that may respond to humans in a manner that amounts to ESP and that may be interpreted as experience of pain and fear.The notion that plants are capable of feeling emotions was first recorded in 1848, when Dr. Gustav Theodor Fechner, a German professor, suggested that plants are capable of emotions and that one could promote healthy growth with talk, attention, and affection. One of the first to research the concept was the Indian scientist Sir Jagdish Chandra Bose, who began to conduct experiments on plants in the year 1900. He found that every plant and every part of a plant appeared to have a sensitive nervous system and responded to shock by a spasm just as an animal muscle does.
    toyboxmonster
    *Points to self* My last blood tests showed excellent B12 levels for someone my age, and a normal red blood cell acount. Being Canadian, I've been deficient in Vitamin D much longer than I've been vegan, but now that I take D supplements, I'm doing fine. I am careful to take in the amount of calcium (and everything else) recommended by the Canadian food guide, and so don't see why I should be deficient in anything food-related.
    -xCaMRocKx-
    frusciante08 wrote: human's dna is 99.8% similar to that of monkeys and they eat nothing but fruits and vegetables. and they also do not ever get diseases such as cancer, heart disease, etc. coincidence? maybe we were meant to only eat fruits and vegetables.
    Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong. 1 - It's not monkeys. It's chimpanzees and bonobos. 2 - It's not 99.8%. More modern, conservative estimates place it as closer to 94%-98%. 3 - Chimpanzees are omnivorous. 4 - Primates DO get cancer and other diseases. I don't know where you got your facts from, but you might want to do a little research before parroting them.
    Lansel0t
    Dietary balance is simple. A good enough balance includes around five portions of fruits and vegetables daily, fish about twice a week and red meat once a week is plenty (without getting into too much detail). Of course all this can be substituted with different foods (even in a vegan diet) but in terms of nutrients thats a good guideline. Everyone is happy with this informative post and all can agree its all that needs to be said, right? (yea... right.) At the same time I eat whatever I want whenever I want. As should you. Also we should stop preaching (like, everyone). This is not a chapel and were not a priests (unless you are then keep it at the workplace).
    Ibeanez
    frusciante08 wrote: human's dna is 99.8% similar to that of monkeys and they eat nothing but fruits and vegetables. and they also do not ever get diseases such as cancer, heart disease, etc. coincidence? maybe we were meant to only eat fruits and vegetables.
    And the average monkey lifespan is 30 years on the high end. Use your head.
    deathofarev
    Page/Rhoads wrote: Why would Ozzy ever worry about health? If he's not immortal, no one is.
    Lemmy? what about him? he's the real immortal i think.
    Aliens-exist182
    toyboxmonster wrote: but if you work out and want to get women you should eat meat. Men need meat for proper muscle growth as well as how it makes you look. People who get protein fake ways like from soy your body treats it more like estrogen and you get girl boobs, wide hips, etc. In other words, being a vegan is only 100% good for you if your a woman, since having extra estrogen is a good thing for them, not for men. It will make a man look like a hideous freak or some weak string bean, no thank you, I happen to like the way girls wrap themselves around my arm. It's why I work out Dear God. I don't like getting involved in arguments about morality and practicality of vegetarian diets because there simply isn't room for a proper discussion in the comment section of UG news articles, but the amount of misinformation in this post is mind-blowing. Let's pick your post apart: 1) no one needs meat, per se, to grow muscles. What they do need (among other things) is protein. 2) There is no such thing as fake protein. The protein in the meat that you eat comes from the grass and/or soy that was fed to the cow (or other animal) from which the meat was taken. 3) Your body does not treat the protein as estrogen. It is simply the case that unfermented soy (as well as other fods like beans, lentils, beer) contains phytoestrogens, chemicals which act like estrogen in the body. However, most research I've seen indicates that the amount of phytoestrogens in soy is not enough to cause any sort of change in your body's functioning. In any case, there are plenty of other sources to get plant-based protein, tempeh (fermented soy, which contains no phytoestrogens) being one of them. I've been vegan for 3 years and have no womanly curves. I have several friends who have been vegan for well over 20 years, and none of them exhibit the symptoms you mention. 4) Your statement that "having extra estrogen is a good thing [for women]" demonstrates your rather flimsy understanding of hormones and the ways in which they affect the body.
    I shed a tear of happiness when I read this, thank you, you wonderful, wonderful man.
    no lolage
    I'm training to be a doctor and reading the comments by some of the non-meat eaters here has been physically painful.....
    peachesenregali
    BigMikeBDD wrote: Humans were meant to eat meat...end of story.
    (sigh) Let me guess...its natural right?
    MutePrintRuiner
    I eat meat but I wish I could go Vegan, but it would just be a bit to much to take on at this point in time. If a animal has lived without being mistreated and is killed humanely that is fine in my eyes. But it is this type of shit that goes on http://www.vimeo.com/13538635 which makes me wish I had the time and effort to go Vegan. This video takes short clips from a documentary called Earthlings and even though I havn't brought myself to watch the Doco cause i don't think i could handle it the music video was enough.
    deathofagod
    the_modfather wrote: most healthiest thing to do is... yep... become a vegan, **** protein
    There are sources of protein other than meat, y'know.
    toyboxmonster
    Reports that plants may be connscious are, as far as I know, widely rejected among the scientific community. In any case, several arguments for veganism/vegetarianism/conscientious meat-eating still stand if plants are indeed sentient.
    Nwright14
    toyboxmonster wrote: Nwright14 wrote: Or maybe it's because monkeys don't eat processed white sugar, flour, trans fats and other unhealthy shit that people shovel into their bodies all the time? Humans have been eating meat for thousands of years and yet many of these diseases have only been a problem for humanity for the last 100 years or so. I'm pretty sure it's not the meat. Moving away from ethics and onto questions of health, I'd like to make two points: 1) Note that the problems you talk about have risen at the same time as economic conditions have allowed us to consume too much meat. So to the extent that people become unhealthy from overconsumption of meat, it is the meat itself, I think. 2) I entirely agree that, given proper rations, eating meat is likely beneficial to health; however, the various chemicals that are fed to commercially-raised animals are rather likely to be detrimental to health. If your sole concern is health, I would recommend buying meat from a small, local producer (preferably organic). Since such a producer is unlikely to own a factory farm, I would recommend this from an ethical perspective also.
    You are 100% correct. Eating too much meat and not enough fruits and vegetables is extremely detrimental to one's health. I also agree with the point that a large portion of the meat we consume is unhealthy due to hormones and chemicals pumped into the meat. Like most debates in life, this one is answered correctly by standing middle ground. Carnivores are idiots for thinking vegan diets have no health benefits, vegans (ignorant ones that is) are idiots for thinking that meat is the reason that so many health problems are prevalent in society today. You want to live a truly healthy lifestyle? Stop eating white sugar and flour and you're off to a good start.
    p_a_morgan
    Humans were meant to eat meat, sure.. Too bad most of the 'meat' we eat these days isn't actually meat at all. Taco Bell. That is all. Go out and kill a wild bull and cook it if you want, but do not count McDonald's Chicken Nuggets as the 'meat' in your diet and expect to live for very long. Haha. As tasty as they are, they share an active ingredient with Silly Putty.
    PeenieMcGee303
    Atomic_Assault wrote: kerrang wrote: Atomic_Assault wrote: PeenieMcGee303 wrote: Early man would kill you and eat you for surviving off of berries. No, they wouldn't. You're right, but you would be shunned from the community. Again. No, you wouldn't. There is evidence to suggest that some Neanderthal and early homo sapien societies lived an almost entirely vegetarian hunter-gatherer lifestyle, with relative success. Evidence for this continues right into the iron age.
    Yea, the homo sapiens were vegans but the sapiens ate meat.
    rebeltildeth87
    Its not out of the question. A few years ago i saw motorhead, priest, and dio sabbath together. Oh, and testament
    EclipseNine
    This would be one hell of a tour, which to be honest should probably be the headline. I could never go vegan myself. taking out animal products leaves me with very few options for full meals
    frusciante08
    human's dna is 99.8% similar to that of monkeys and they eat nothing but fruits and vegetables. and they also do not ever get diseases such as cancer, heart disease, etc. coincidence? maybe we were meant to only eat fruits and vegetables.
    PeenieMcGee303
    frusciante08 wrote: human's dna is 99.8% similar to that of monkeys and they eat nothing but fruits and vegetables. and they also do not ever get diseases such as cancer, heart disease, etc. coincidence? maybe we were meant to only eat fruits and vegetables.
    WRONG! Monkeys eat insects. ie MEAT! Them canine teeth ain't for celery, pal. IMO Vegans are anti-human. The thousands of years and millions of lives lost perfecting our hunting skills and domesticating the delicious animals and you wanna survive off soybeans. For shame. Early man would kill you and eat you for surviving off of berries.
    kerrang
    Atomic_Assault wrote: PeenieMcGee303 wrote: Early man would kill you and eat you for surviving off of berries. No, they wouldn't.
    You're right, but you would be shunned from the community.
    whoomit
    Why's there a picture of Amy Winehouse?... I think both him, and UG, have gone batty.
    toyboxmonster
    gnfnrs wrote: the same as vegans there main arrgument is that its bad to eat a living thing. Well last time i checked plants are a ****ing living thing
    I study ethical philosophy. It's what I do. I have never encountered a serious philosopher making this claim.