Phil Anselmo on His Feud With Vinnie Paul: 'It's Time for Some Peace'

Current Down singer discusses his rift with former Pantera drummer and the possibility of the band's reunion.

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In a recent interview with Wikimetal, Down frontman Phil Anselmo discussed his ongoing feud with drummer Vinnie Paul and chances of metal giants Pantera ever getting back together. The vocalist admitted discussing such an option with Zakk Wylde, adding that they both agreed on Vinnie Paul holding the reunion back the most.

"Honestly - and I've spoken with Zakk about it as well - we're very aware of the public perception out there, but honestly, until I speak with Vinnie Paul, which has not yet happened, and it doesn't look like it's going to happen, nothing can happen. Honestly, I tell you, my phone is on the hook, my e-mail is wide open, my door is wide open. I would love to talk with Vince."

According to Anselmo, talking with Vinnie Paul would "mean the world" to him and the time they both sat down and discussed their issues is long overdue. In his words, it's time for some peace and brotherhood.

"Honestly, if there were no more bad feelings and we could talk, and we could come to an understanding, I think it would mean not only a lot for me and myself - it would mean the world to me - but it would mean a great deal to the fans out there as well. I think people don't want to see this arguing anymore. It's time for some peace. It's time for some brotherhood. And honestly, we should be setting an example instead of being the opposite. And I'll just say that my door is wide open, and so far, Vinnie's door is closed, and it's a shame."

Its been about 10 years since the two have last spoken which is a long time. Their already bad relationship took a turn for the worse when Paul publicly blamed Anselmo for the death of his brother Dimebag Darrell, saying that some of his comments in the press might have driven the murderer to take a final step and kill Darrell.

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    Phil had nothing to do with motivating the murder, time to bury the hatchet Vinnie. A one-off performance with Zakk on guitar would be fitting closure.
    My Last Words
    I agree with the first point, but please, let Pantera be..
    Absolutely agree. Vinnie is being a bit stubborn about the Phil issue. But as far as "Pantera reunion" goes?...Um, try to remember that Vinnie Paul witnessed, from about 6 feet away, his brother get his fvcking brains blown out. If all vinnie can do is think about playing with his dead brother, when it comes to playing with Pantera, I can totally understand why he would want nothing to do with it. Besides that, I'm sure he loves his Pantera followers, they DID make him what he is today. Besides all that, I personally have no faith or desire in a "Pantera" without Dimebag Darell. I wish I could have more of them but I'm satisfied with the sweet music that they gave us in the 1990s.
    Carl Hungus
    Dude probably has major PTSD as well. The perception from Vinnie is that if Pantera had not broken up they would have been playing in an arena setting where the security would have been significantly better. Basically a mad men would have never been able to get close to the band. Lets not forget that multiple people were murdered that day not just Dime.
    I'm not so sure that he's even gateful for his fans at this point, for exactly the reason you stated; they're the reason that he's where he is today, and that goes for Dimebag as well. If he's harboring such unreasonable feelings towards Anselmo, I can imagine he's not anymore grateful for his fans. I'm sure he would rather still have his brother over his career with Pantera any day.
    I can't imagine him blaming Pantera fans for hat happened. Especially seeing how the fans reacted after the shooting.
    Please, Zakk would just rape every song with pinch squeals.
    People always use the pinch squeal thing, but how do we know that Zakk wouldn't just straight up play the songs as they are?
    link no1
    1) Dime used alot of them anyway. 2) Zakk isn't as obsessive with pinches than everybody says. Jeeze, let this joke die.
    Dime did use quite a few Pinch Harmonics, but he used them in such a way that it ADDED to the song. Zakk uses them ever five seconds because it seems he has no idea what else to use. Now, I'm not saying Zakk is a bad guitarist, not at all. Just that Dime knew to sprinkle in some pinches, not dump the "bucket-o-squeals" on the song.
    I love Zakk but dammit that is a great assessment of his style. Even in that shitty My Darkest Day song you can hear it all over it. Before I was told Zakk was on the guitar on that song I already knew. And I died a little that day.
    @koikomoru: 1) How many Zakk Wylde songs have you heard recently? 2) Neither Zakk nor Dime are/were that great at guitar, and people need to stop acting like they both are masters of the instrument. I like early Ozzy with Zakk as well as Pantera, but neither guitar player is awesome as their respective fans make them out to be.
    And who do u appreciate as master of the guitar?Jimmy Hendrix?Randy Rhodes maybe?Or yourself if your delusional.Just what do u know about guitarists and musicianship enlighten the rest of us or just STFU.
    Agreed. I'm sick and tired of Pantera fanboys glamorising Dime and his playing while it's really just in the EQ and sound department. Any pro-level metal guitarist (and plenty of amateurs) can pull his sound off, it's just an electric guitar! Sure, many can't write as catchy yet heavy riffs but the sound and existing songs are there to be taken to use if someone was to directly "replace" Dime.
    I love zakk, I do. but honestly. im not sure he could play all the pantera songs.
    Pantera songs really aren't that complicated like people make them out to be.
    No, they aren't that complicated. But they never sound right without Dime playing.
    Dime had a certain.."way" about his playing. A certain rhythm, a certain feel, that I have never heard anyone replicate well. It's what made him such an amazing guitarist.
    The only guy i've ever seen come close was the guy playing Dime's role in a Pantera tribute called 101% Pantera a few years back. Not sure if they're still around but they were damn good, even had endorsement deals from Dean (And were the only Pantera tribute on the world to have that).
    ...nobody can really put the perfect shaping on the piece the same way the composer can.... they did write the pieces afterall...
    While Zakk never strays away from his style of playing, you'll find snippets all around YouTube showing he can just about do anything.
    Errrr didn't Phil completely ignore the rest of the band when they kept phoning him about recording a new album? Yeah he didn't actually shoot Dimebag, but Phil being a dick to his bandmates didn't help either : P His door is wide open now, is sure as hell wasn't back then.
    Emenius Sleepus
    Sure, it didn't. but if he's genuine about what he says, to me it says that he's grown and learnt from the lessons that were dealt to him. This was a long time ago - maybe not long enough for Vinnie Paul but Phil is certainly showing far more maturity than he did, so I'd give the guy a chance. Don't see the point in resurrecting Pantera though; they're one of those bands that wouldn't be a proper entity without the original members, and since that's impossible, let the band rest. On the other hand, I probably wouldn't be opposed to the remaining members making some music under a different name -
    Oh yeah people change, he sounds genuine in the interviews I've read but don't I know him personally : ) Phil has been in the band 'Down' since the 90s, slower paced and different style to Pantera, Rex is the bassist in that band too (or was until recently) and Vinnie is in 2 other bands I think at the moment. I would love to see Pantera live but I agree it won't happen and people probably wouldn't get the same atmosphere without Dimebag.
    i agree that forgiveness is overdue here, but it's no one but Vinnie's choice as to when and if that ever happens.. As far as Phil's comments and actions not having a factor in motivating nathan gales warped mind to do what he did, how do you know that? I am sure phil would give anything to change the course of events so that dime would not have ended up playing that venue that night, but even if he could there is absolutely no way he could have known something like that was to happen hell it could have happened if it was a pantera show. I'm sure Vinnie knows that and thinks about it I do hope for his sake he someday lets it go though because i would think dime would want him to. If for nothing else to have peace. R.I.P DIME \m/
    I think a reunion for Dimebag's memory would be the best for everyone. No new album or even a tour but just 1 performance is enough. And I couldn't see anyone more fitting than Zakk based on their close ties. Only other that I'd respect is Mark Tremonti because he never got to meet Dime but loved him so much.
    "It's been about 10 years since the two have last spoken which is a long time." And I thought that was a short time UG.
    I just want to see anselmo get back to his Pantera style vocal riffing and phrasing. I know Dime was the man in Pantera, but Anselmo was nasty on vocals.
    Totally! Pantera was special because of Dime's guitar playing, Phil's voice and Vinnie's drums (Rex was a decent enough bass player). They all had a part in making Pantera an unforgettable band that made music that really affected people.
    Yeah I didn't mean to downplay Rex, he's an excellent bass player, I just meant that compared to the other 3 band members his contributions to the overall sound of Pantera was a little less... still important but not as much as the others - Only because of the style of music that they played and just how exceptional Dime, Phil and Vinnie were.
    Obviously it's a matter of opinion, but I'd say Rex's contribution is just as important. His bass playing has actually been a significant influence on my own.
    You ever hear any style of heavy metal band without the bass? It sounds...flaccid. The bass is the foundation to good metal.
    Second Rate
    ehh, unless you're talking about some kind of technical metal or metal fusion..... not really. In most metal genres the bass is so buried that it may as well be non existent.
    in this case, check out superjoint ritual or anselmo's new solo stuff.
    I have heard both. Neither do i hear the phrasing anselmo used in pantera. He shows hints, but not in the same.
    I don't even want a last gig or anything like that, no Dime means no Pantera. End of. Although I would like to see Phil and Vinnie as friends again.
    Same here. It might be a great band but it shouldn't be called Pantera. And it would be good if they would be friends again, but Vinnie can do whatever he wants. If he doesn't want to be involved with someone, then he doesn't have to.
    Yeah if they want to be friends again they shouldn't do it for the reason of coming back to do one gig. It doesn't work like that. I'm happy with the legacy Pantera have left behing. They do not need a last gig.
    Dimebag was not only a loss 2 Vinnie but to the all of us. I wish these guys could talk and reconcile. I think a celebration of dime bag with the reunion would be awesome
    link no1
    Mustaine and Metallica buried the hatchet, I think it's time these guys did the same.
    As much as I like Vinnie Paul, I agree with Phil about it being time to bury the hatchet. To me it's more the anger he's carrying around, about his brother's death, than his brain, that blames Phil. It's really pretty sad to blame Phil for his death. The fact that the guy was completely insane, and should have been in an asylum, is what's to blame. Until Vinnie let's go and sees that there will be no chance of a Pantera anything. As for Zakk Wylde, I agree he tends to be one of them good guitarists that gets wildly overrated. There is a difference in coming up with something and playing it. I am almost positive Zakk could play anything Dimebag played for Pantera, note for note, but he could have never came up with it.
    I love Phil Anselmo, always have. He went through some hard times and it's great to see him doing well and wanting to make amends with Vinnie. "It's time for some peace. It's time for some brotherhood. And honestly, we should be setting an example instead of being the opposite." Well said.
    I Live in Columbus, OH. I go to the Alrosa Villa regularly (where Dime was killed) and I know Officer Niggemeyer, who killed the murderer. Zakk would be the perfect guitarist to take Dime's place in Pantera. Vinnie Paul needs to open up, and realize, the murderer was insane, and I'm not a Phil Anselmo fan per se, but he didn't push this guy any further than where he already was.
    kill it
    I would like to see a tour of the remaining members to celebrate the music of Pantera. They shouldn't call it a reunion tour or label themselves as Pantera. Zakk Wylde would be an ideal candidate for the guitar slot since he was a very good friend of Dime's and is a great guitarist.
    A one off with Zakk would be bad ass. Obviously don't call it a Pantera reunion but a tribute to Dime. I would like to see other guitarists fill in as well and let the proceeds go to a charity or something.
    hard to believe its almost 10 years now, VP should try and make peace. holding a grudge with someone for the rest of your life is just going to always keep u stagnant your whole life. im sure if they did it would be very emotional for both of them, and its good to get that out and move on. RIP DIME!!! WWDimeD? pour some Black tooth and roll a couple joints and just talk. They were all just kids back then. If we were all judged by what we said as kids, we would all be very lonely.
    i agree to a point, but remember that you didnt know dime. you were never close to him so you dont know what he would do. what if he felt the same and never talked to phil? we will never know and should just let vinnie do his thing. we werent in the band so we need shut up. i dont mean to be rude or disrespectful, just remember that. its like when people think some actor, or tv character, would be their best bud.
    Dime would've reconciled with Philip. It wasn't in his nature to be a douchebag like that. They loved each other and were brothers!
    After everything that Phil has said in the media over the years I think it's understandable if Vinnie is still upset. Vinnie may not want a Pantera reunion anyway, regardless of making amends with Phil. And what does it matter what it's called? Unless they write new material to record and/or perform then it'll always be Pantera with Zakk on guitar. Everyone is getting hung up on trivial points like that. No one could every really replace Dime but Zakk is a great choice to fill the stop for a performance, a tour and I would even be down for an album. Pantera made amazing music with Dime and They could make amazing music with Zakk. It's not gonna sound Like Vulgar Display of Power no matter what, even if Dime were still alive you all would complain about the content on a new Pantera album
    NOOOOO! just let Pantera sleep. Id love to see Phil and Zak and Rex and Vinnie but NOT AS DIME = no it something else
    i would love to see them reconcile their differences, and a one off show would be absolutely amazing! only to see the boys getting together to jam some old tunes for the fans tho.. pantera is nothing without dime, and to be resurrected for a new album or a world tour or anything like that would actually just piss me off!
    I hear what your saying man, but as a diehard who has never seen them live. I would kill to see this on a tour. Yes, Dime cannot be replaced. so aslong as they aren't doing an album I would be behind a zakk wyle version of pantera.
    Second Rate
    I would say one of the guys from Exhorder or Crowbar would probably be a better fit for a Pantera reunion. Closer in terms of tone and such. Zakk should just stick to being a "purr-tend" biker and making his half assed bar rock for drunken wife beaters.
    Not sure if they should do reunion, but Vinnie should really stop acting like a child and talk to Phil..
    NOOOOO. Pantera died when Dime died. I want to see them because i love pantera but it cant happen. its not possible, let it go. Zakk is cool but i wouldnt listen to him with pantera because his style is different than dimes. just let it stay dead guys. its been dead for awhile so pulling some frankenstein shit is not necessary.
    I agree with them having to make peace for once and for all, the thing that I don't agree is... why pantera? come on, if they are Phil Anselmo, Rex Brown, and Vinnie Paul, not just 3 random musicians, they can easily form a new supergroup together.
    I support Vinnie, he should just tell phil to **** off, no one likes that Douche.
    Second Rate
    You do realize that without that "douche" Pantera would just be another washed up cock rock band, correct?
    Agreed, I support Vinnie's decision to not want reconciliation. Phil wants his amends but when Dime and Vinnie wanted him to just be a brother and record new albums, he blew them off. Doesn't sound like brotherhood to me. Phil may not be a douche, but what Vinnie decides to do I will always support. Dime was, is and will always be the best R.I.P.
    Its weird I didnt even think of zakk for a reunion, def a solid choice
    No Dime, No Pantera! Just let it go.
    i think it would be cool to have dimes guitar and amps on stage while the OG members play the songs and his parts played as a track. better then having a guitar player butchering his tracks. id buy tickets.
    Everyone loves to bag on Zakk for all his pinch harmonics, does he way-over use them? yes! its his style, its almost impossible to change- does Eddie over-use stuff? yep! did Jimmy Page over use stuff-yep! Satriani? yep! Give Zakk a break, he's about the coolest dude ever to become a guitar god, maybe 2nd to Dime-man do I miss him still. Zakk could do this, give him a chance. He wouldn't sound exactly like Dime, but we wouldn't want him too either, he would kill it I know. I say bring in a 3 or 4 heavy=hitters like Gus G, or Alexi, or some other metal god. Just bury the hatchet and move on! Phil just say your sorry for being the biggest dick on the planet, because you were! and Vinnie, just do this because you know you want to, and you know we all want to see it. make it a 20-stop world tour at the biggest stadiums and be done with it. would be killerrrr!
    most love to bag on zakk because he replaced randy rhoades. Old ppl bag him for it, and a lot of younger ppl bag on him because it cool to bag on him, when truth be told, a good portion of ppl on this site couldn't touch him on a guitar. If he didn't replace Randy he would be a God on this site...With that said I do believe he is a good guitarist, but a little overrated.
    Anselmo is a dick and Zakk Wylde can't hold a flame to Dime. Pantera died a long time ago and we need to let that be.
    It would be interesting to see Zakk play Dime's songs. Alot of emotion considering they were best buds but considering the fact that Zakk and Dime are 2 totally different geetarists I really don't think it would work. I have said it before though....if they somehow do get together I will see them.
    come on wasn't the tupac one bad enough, and didn't it bankrupt the company that did it.
    You know...everyone is saying no Dime no Pantera. I can respect that. I could respect Pantera touring. with Zakk though, being that him and Dime were close friends. I don't know that I'd want to see any new albums though.
    I'm not into Rock n' Roll hall of fame crap, I don't believe that something should remain untouched because of it's legacy, but this is one case where I just can't see these guys getting back together. It's one thing to not get along for a while, but it's been more than a decade now, I can't see them staying reconciled even if they did get back together. Finding someone who could fill Dimebag's shoes without winding up at least half of all Pantera fans would be hard enough, but add complicated personal relationships to the mix and this is one reunion that isn't going to happen.
    Zakk would have to flip his BASS knob back from 10 back to 1 (just sayin')
    The only way it would feel right is if they were inducting Pantera into the hall of fame, and Zakk did 2 or 3 songs with them. Other than that, forget it. Let the legend remain untarnished.