Phil Anselmo Says There Can Be No Pantera Without Dimebag

Philip Anselmo says that his collaboration with fellow surviving Pantera members is unlikely to lead to any new original music.

Phil Anselmo Says There Can Be No Pantera Without Dimebag
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Former Pantera and current Down singer Philip Anselmo tells Billboard.com that his collaboration with fellow surviving Pantera members Vinnie Paul Abbott (drums) and Rex Brown (bass), along with the estate of the late guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott, to work together on Pantera's "Cowboys From Hell" reissue is unlikely to lead to any new original music from the former bandmates. "I would not want to tarnish the Pantera name," Anselmo says, according to Billboard.com. "Vinnie himself said a long time ago that if you take any one of us out of the equation and it's just not Pantera anymore, so I guess I'm just gonna stick to that. And as far as Vinnie and I go, there's a big bridge that both of us would have to cross, and that's an entire subject on its own, before we could even consider making music together." Regarding the upcoming 20th-anniversary reissue of "Cowboys From Hell" which is coming September 14 in a three-disc deluxe edition that includes one unreleased song, "The Will To Survive" Anselmo tells Billboard.com, "It had definitely been a long while since I sat down and listened to 'Cowboys From Hell' from front to back. Basically it was trickier where I thought things might be simplified. We would build these massive intros into songs, and the solo sections, the way they were written was just very, very, very clever. And I can see very clearly how we upped the production. It's been quite an experience." Read more from Billboard.com.

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    Lapidus
    Seems so obvious to me... Is the guy sober and clean now? I mean, I couldn't find a video of him on youtube where he wasn't drunk or high. F*cking amazing singer though.
    blindfatkid23
    How is this news? Is there really anyone here who's surprised after reading this? Next UG headline: Dave Grohl Says No Plans For Nirvana To Reunite In Near Future.
    guitarman052
    Hey Axl Rose, take a note from this you prick! Sometimes, I just wish Phil would beat some sense into Axl. Even though it is highly unlikely!
    DimeOFlage420
    wow hank wiliams and phil anselmo? wonder what thatt sounds like....as far as making a new album without Dimebag, that would be like that asswipe trying to build a mosque at ground zero..its a desecration of a good name..just aint gonna ****ing fly....especially not after all the shit Anselmo was talking about him, that would take a lot of ****ing nerve...
    chooka69
    People were making a big deal about him when he was alive. I mean he had his own column in a guitar magazine (don't remember if it was guitar world or what). He had this column because he had one of the most sought after tones in metal. He was also a big deal because not only was he an awesome guitar player, but he was an awesome person. That's rare. People always rave about Van Halen and his guitar playing but the guy's still an *****. Dimebag, on the other hand, was humble and really loved his Hey,hey,hey! Come on now! Lets not get all irrational and start dissing King Eddie. I loved Dimebag too but shitting on Van Halen is not going to bring him back.
    Im_Broken
    FearOfTheDuck wrote: If Dime didn't die, no doubt that Pantera would've reformed by now.
    dude. i can only imagine how brutal the next album woulda been. RTS was ridiculously brutal.
    !Mike!
    First mike leaves DT, now the remaining members of Pantera are actually working together. This week is full of crazy ****ing surprises.
    ffaf_kick_ass
    the only way i could see a reunion work is if they have 5 or 6 guitarists each take turns on songs, similar to when various guys came on for johnathan davies of korn at download. that would be cool.
    Martyfan
    Agreed, couldn't have worded it better than Anselmo. No problem with them all playing together, just not under Pantera. Pantera has it's place in history and that's how it is.
    NeilTheDruid
    I normally don't like Anselmo much, but this time I think he's got it right. Pantera just couldn't be Pantera without Dimes sound.
    Belsebubb93
    i think phil, vinnie, rex and zakk should do a tribute tour for dimebag under the name pantera, but i don't think they should make a new album under the name pantera
    Valadran
    Belsebubb93 wrote: i think phil, vinnie, rex and zakk should do a tribute tour for dimebag under the name pantera, but i don't think they should make a new album under the name pantera
    Yea they should make a tribute tour but not with Zakk. Take the best, most dedicated youtube players who have already proven themselves worthy and are true Pantera's fans who can nail Dime's riffs and solos. There is plenty of them. I think that Dime would be proud.
    palm mute
    xHellbound wrote: Anselmo & Iommi, do it!
    They have, check out Iommi's solo album. "Time is Mine" is the name of the track.
    sewoo55
    N64 : They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.
    zakk wylde's constant and random pinch harmonics are gonna be really annoying..... at least dimebag knew when to do a pinch harmonic
    mnewland1
    To clarify on my opinion, Dime and Phil were equally important to Pantera. Vinnie was important but replaceable. Rex, as much as I respect him, was totally replaceable. Shit rolls down hill. Pantera cannot ever happen again. I know folks, it sucks for me too.
    palm mute
    xJMan240x wrote: Too late for Phil, if he hadn't acted like a douche bag and just fixed his damn back instead of taking drugs then Pantera probably wouldn't have broken up, at least not for the reasons they did, and Dime wouldn't have gotten shot by some deranged fan who should have shot Phil's addict ass instead . There is pretty much nothing Phil Anselmo can do to earn my respect, no matter whether or not Vinnie and Rex have forgiven him for all the crap he said before Dime was killed. The root cause of Dime being shot was Phil. How can I respect a person who set into motion a chain of events that got one of my heroes killed?
    Grow up man, were you there? Its stupid to hold a grudge on a man you've probably never met for something you weren't even there for. Wishing Phil would've been shot instead would've been one of the last things Dime would've wanted, even at the height of the Pantera break up. And thinking Phil caused it is ludicrous, the guy who shot Dime was violently insane and shouldn't have been able to own a weapon in the first place.
    nuclearrootbeer
    my guitar teacher says he could see them becoming full-blown pantera again without dimebag, buti guess that will never happen...oh well a "reunion" tour with zakk wylde would be appreciated tho i luvs pantera
    rhcpjhlz
    dtj88 wrote: Glad to hear Phil say this. Reading between the lines, it sounds like Vinnie and Phil would still have alot of work to do to make a reunion possible- even if they were open to getting a new guitarist.
    What do you mean reading between the lines. It says "And as far as Vinnie and I go, there's a big bridge that both of us would have to cross."
    Kelicon
    xHellbound wrote: Anselmo & Iommi, do it!
    Hells Yeah! a HUGE 2nd to that
    hanselrocks1
    thank you mr anselmo! dont be a douche like all those other bands! you could use the same members new guitarist under a new name though?
    JimJam1304
    They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles. Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win
    NO WAY IN HELL. The difference between the two is that Dimebag stayed innovative and creative, while Wylde has been riding his pinch harmonic his entire career. I would be INCREDIBLY saddened if they reform at all without Dime, and especially so (at this point I would angry as well) if Wylde was the replacement. Zakk can't touch Dime. Honestly, no one should try to replace Dime; it is an impossible task. If the other three get together with someone else, do the fans a favor and regard it as a different band, like it inevitably will be.
    Xeno_Christ
    rokkit wrote: i think they should get a bunch of guitarists who are massive fans of pantera or good friends of dime, such as kerry king, zakk wylde, rob flynn ect and do a dimebag tribute tour
    hell yeah dude, that'd be ****in sick!!!
    mnewland1
    Dime is irreplaceable. Anything new would make absolutely no sense at all. Their music had DIMEBAG written all over it. Unlike Metallica when they lost cliff, or even Led Zep when they lost John, those musicians were great, but weren't ABSOLUTELY VITAL to the bands success. the guitar in this band is something that can and never will be possible to be replaced. Glad to see that Phil acknowledges that.
    Gary.Blizzard
    rokkit wrote: i think they should get a bunch of guitarists who are massive fans of pantera or good friends of dime, such as kerry king, zakk wylde, rob flynn ect and do a dimebag tribute tour
    Didn't they already have a show somewhere like that? I thought I read about it a while back, Zakk was there, and Rita and the whole lot. I've also heard of other shows where a bunch of bands got together to play Pantera songs...
    death punch
    if dime didnt die i think pantera would have got back together because dime just seems that he would want to have phil back and they would have hopefully mad amends with each other.
    Way Cool JR.
    RockInPeaceDime wrote: Way Cool JR. wrote: ReasonableRam wrote: Eirien wrote: Good for everyone! It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime. CFH is such an underrated album, it's Pantera's finest hour. I personally think CFH and the Power Metal album of the 80's were the two best albums from Pantera. I didn't like Pantera after they went wicked hardcore because I ****ing hate screaming like no other. Show off some talent and actually sing audible words please. At least Phil proved he could sing like a maniac before they went to almost exclusive screaming. Long live Pantera's memory.Chronologo wrote: does he sing anymore?? or continues to shout like a monkey, I remember "Power Metal", that was a good album with Phil actually singing, Vulgar Display of Power was the last good Pantera album beyond that point they just pulled out some really crappy albums like that live one shit At least there are a couple people left that knows when Pantera really kicked ass. They were bad ass in the 80's and then it's like they fell apart in the 90's. Phil could really sing man he sometimes sounded like Rob from Judas Priest and Dime I think wrote his best stuff back then to. 80's Pantera the only Pantera for me. And Phil just needs to stick with Down he done ruined Pantera way before Dime died. Whey try and ruin it twice. Phil didn't ruin a thing. The guy put ****ing spinal disc surgery on hold just so Pantera wouldn't have to stop touring/making music. He went out on stage every night with that pain (the injuries he had and the damages he had to his back are beyond painful) and put on a show. There's a reason he got hooked on painkillers -- some of it was his stupidity, some of it was him sacrificing for Pantera.
    since I have bad disks in my back from breaking my back by getting hit by a car at 60mph I can say it is more irritating than painful. So it really isn't that bad. If you want to here about real pain try having acid poured into your lungs to melt all the tissue to cover a bunch of small holes and rotated like a rotisserie chicken while you are fully awake. But yeah I still stand by what I said
    RockInPeaceDime
    Dakkstar wrote: Phil is over rated.. once upon a time he had an amazing voice. Cowboys from Hell is proof, but those days are long gone. Phil should go away, he doesn't release anything worth listening to. P.S. Zakk Wylde couldn't pull of Dime's stuff, as Zakk sucks in comparison. There's many other guitarists that would be a better choice than Wylde, plus could you imagine all the pinch harmonics that he'd add making the songs awkward and senseless.
    err Phil is still a very good vocalist. His voice is very different, for obvious reasons (he's 20 years older than he was on CFH, and those 20 years consisted of constant alcohol use). Down has released solid albums, so I don't know what you're on about. Anybody who says Zakk Wylde sucks (as a guitarist or musician) is quite obviously ignorant of Book of Shadows, Pride & Glory, The Blessed Hellride, etc. His writing with Ozzy got one dimensional (which probably isn't entirely his fault), sure, but there's a hell of a lot more to his music than just Ozzy material.
    DLXJRVO
    Jesus_Dean wrote: Mixed feelings about this. AC/DC went on w/o Bon Scott, Ozzy went on w/o Randy Rhoads, the Who w/o Keith Moon, Pink Floyd w/o Syd Barrett....but for every band who lost a key member and then enjoyed further success, there are 10 others who just simply lost the magic.
    Dude you just can't replace dime...it just wouldn't be right.
    RockInPeaceDime
    Way Cool JR. wrote: RockInPeaceDime wrote: Way Cool JR. wrote: ReasonableRam wrote: Eirien wrote: Good for everyone! It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime. CFH is such an underrated album, it's Pantera's finest hour. I personally think CFH and the Power Metal album of the 80's were the two best albums from Pantera. I didn't like Pantera after they went wicked hardcore because I ****ing hate screaming like no other. Show off some talent and actually sing audible words please. At least Phil proved he could sing like a maniac before they went to almost exclusive screaming. Long live Pantera's memory.Chronologo wrote: does he sing anymore?? or continues to shout like a monkey, I remember "Power Metal", that was a good album with Phil actually singing, Vulgar Display of Power was the last good Pantera album beyond that point they just pulled out some really crappy albums like that live one shit At least there are a couple people left that knows when Pantera really kicked ass. They were bad ass in the 80's and then it's like they fell apart in the 90's. Phil could really sing man he sometimes sounded like Rob from Judas Priest and Dime I think wrote his best stuff back then to. 80's Pantera the only Pantera for me. And Phil just needs to stick with Down he done ruined Pantera way before Dime died. Whey try and ruin it twice. Phil didn't ruin a thing. The guy put ****ing spinal disc surgery on hold just so Pantera wouldn't have to stop touring/making music. He went out on stage every night with that pain (the injuries he had and the damages he had to his back are beyond painful) and put on a show. There's a reason he got hooked on painkillers -- some of it was his stupidity, some of it was him sacrificing for Pantera. since I have bad disks in my back from breaking my back by getting hit by a car at 60mph I can say it is more irritating than painful. So it really isn't that bad. If you want to here about real pain try having acid poured into your lungs to melt all the tissue to cover a bunch of small holes and rotated like a rotisserie chicken while you are fully awake. But yeah I still stand by what I said
    How often do you go out on stage in front of thousands of people and try to headbang and stomp around for 2 hours straight? Did you have any surgery done? And of course medical issues are taken on a case-by-case basis -- if the guy said he was in pain (and many people around him said he was in pain), I have no reason to believe differently. The point of the matter is that he put off surgery to keep Pantera from having to stop touring.
    Levi79
    I agree that they couldn't write Pantera music ever again. But does anyone else think it would be amazing if Zakk Wylde played guitar and did a memorial tour 2014 or something? Since Dime and Zakk were good friends and all.
    dtj88
    rhcpjhlz wrote: dtj88 wrote: Glad to hear Phil say this. Reading between the lines, it sounds like Vinnie and Phil would still have alot of work to do to make a reunion possible- even if they were open to getting a new guitarist. What do you mean reading between the lines. It says "And as far as Vinnie and I go, there's a big bridge that both of us would have to cross."
    Fair enough...that's probably the most overlooked part of any Pantera reunion is getting Vinnie and Phil to get along.
    xJMan240x
    Too late for Phil, if he hadn't acted like a douche bag and just fixed his damn back instead of taking drugs then Pantera probably wouldn't have broken up, at least not for the reasons they did, and Dime wouldn't have gotten shot by some deranged fan who should have shot Phil's addict ass instead. There is pretty much nothing Phil Anselmo can do to earn my respect, no matter whether or not Vinnie and Rex have forgiven him for all the crap he said before Dime was killed. The root cause of Dime being shot was Phil. How can I respect a person who set into motion a chain of events that got one of my heroes killed?
    RockInPeaceDime
    xJMan240x wrote: Too late for Phil, if he hadn't acted like a douche bag and just fixed his damn back instead of taking drugs then Pantera probably wouldn't have broken up, at least not for the reasons they did, and Dime wouldn't have gotten shot by some deranged fan who should have shot Phil's addict ass instead. There is pretty much nothing Phil Anselmo can do to earn my respect, no matter whether or not Vinnie and Rex have forgiven him for all the crap he said before Dime was killed. The root cause of Dime being shot was Phil. How can I respect a person who set into motion a chain of events that got one of my heroes killed?
    There's no reason to assume Gale wouldn't have come after Dime anyway, even if he was playing with Pantera. What is the logic there? The guy was a sociopath, off his meds, delusional...he had a sick goal...sociopaths don't exactly back down when they get an urge -- they don't have the physical or moral capability to back down. I think you should really reconsider your moral framework if you truly think someone else should have died in place of Dime. That's a genuinely ludicrous belief to hold. The person responsible for Dime's death is, one hundred ****ing percent, Nathan Gale. Are you seriously going to sit here and tell me you blame someone who wasn't at the event more than the man who walked in the club and pulled the goddamn trigger? Are you out of your mind?
    maggothellspawn
    N64 wrote: They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles. Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win
    That would be just freakin amazing... Dime's Shoes are hard to fill though even for a metal prodigy like wild. Excellent idea though >M<
    jokeyramone
    even if dime was still alive,zakk would never be welcome in the pantera camp again for 2 reasons... 1. he quit drinking 2. he sponsors justin beiber's current guitar player.and he quit drinking.
    codyclement
    If Metallica had no lars ulrich or megadeth with no dave muistaine or slayer with no kerry king it would be pointless, thats what i think of Pantera with no dimebag
    thirteenburn
    To the point of a possible Pantera reunion: in my opinion, it wasn't so much Dime's guitar work that would be missed, but it was also equally Dime's personality that made Pantera what it was; so while you COULD get another guitarist and carry on the Pantera name, without Dime, it would be just another metal band. And regardless of my feelings and utter respect for Dime, I've never bought into the BS and acrimony between Vinnie Paul, Dime's "wife" and Phil. A lot of people fail to realize that if that were in fact the case, would Rex have continued to play with Phil? No f-ing way is the answer, so whatever animosity remains between the three, it's got NOTHING to do with Phil & Dime's relationship. And yes, I remember the supposed comments Phil made, OFF THE RECORD (I heard Phil had a little "talk" with the P.O.S. who did the piece), but again, if that were really the case, Rex wouldn't have been caught within 100 miles of Phil, not to mention that the relationship between Vinnie, Dime's wife and Rex hasn't suffered. No, there is something far deeper going on here, but regardless of that, any reunion would have to be a new and different thing. The memory and massive respect of Dime warrants nothing less. *raising a Black-tooth Grin CHEERS BRO! YOU'RE MISSED MORE THAN YOU'LL EVER KNOW!
    thirteenburn
    Apologies for not remembering Dime's wife, Rita. I just couldn't remember at the time. No offense meant.
    jackrocks4
    my opinion, if vinnie and phil ever make peace, zakk wylde would be he best person to tour with for a pantera reunion. i know it would make alot of people happy. only problem, zakk during crazy trains intro=too many pinch harmonics, id hope zakk wouldnt butcher dimes riffs like that. but you never know. i just think that would be the best thing to do. id gladly see a concert like that.
    BloodRedSkies
    i personally love phil and defend his rather colourful personality to the bitter end, but i think Down is a great effort (vinnie's stuff not so much :V) and it would only be a nostalgia trip where the novelty would wear off quickly. Besides, the people saying that phil was best in the 80s are right, his original voice was perfect, but it went away in an attempt to be 'more aggressive' or something, i dunno :v
    symbolic_acts
    zakk wylde should form a new band with the remaining pantera members, call it something else but they could still play some pantera covers here and there, could be pretty awesome