Rage Against The Machine Support Fired Guitar Makers

Rage Against The Machine have lent their support to South Korean workers who manufactured Fender and Gibson guitars and are protesting after being dismissed.

Rage Against The Machine Support Fired Guitar Makers
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Rage Against The Machine have lent their support to South Korean workers who manufactured Fender and Gibson guitars and are protesting after being dismissed. Guitarist Tom Morello has met with workers who protesting about losing their jobs in 2007. He may be present at a press conference they are holding in California today (January 13). Workers at the Cort and Cor-tek firms, who manufactured guitar parts for companies such as Gibson, Fender and Ibanez at their plant in South Korea, claimed they were "padlocked out of their factory and forced to sign resignation papers" after attempting to form a trade union in 2007. They also claimed that, despite asking Fender to investigate Cort's practices in an "independent, transparent and fair" manner, Fender instead "conducted a closed-door, internal investigation and has not made any moves to suspend its business with Cort". Workers have also said that, despite Cort being found guilty of illegal dismissal by Korea's National Labor Relations Commission, they used "intimidation and violence to secure forced resignations from the workers to deny them unemployment benefits and to retaliate against the union through hired thugs". Thanks for the report to Nme.com.

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    Adamski6
    Korean guitars are one of the best types. Also, a good Korean Gibson or Fender is class. Not happy
    irtiqaevox
    metallica-#1 wrote: flyneye : Like I told that Boob Bono after his post Bush meeting," Hey, Lucky Charms! When you fix the problems in Ireland, then you come tell us how it works, till then mind your own business and quit riding us to make yourself more famous." yelling it at the television doesnt actually count as "telling him off" stop trying to make yourself sound important to these people by talking down on people who do more of a cultural impact than you ever will. Tom and Bono (as much as i dislike the latter) have made the world a better place in a small way, whether you want to believe it or not. what have you done with your life? yelled at a tv with Bono on it and tell these people on UG *clap clap*
    +1
    Les Paul Ell
    flyneye wrote: Danke! to my fans. Freelance Journalism has gotten me up close and personal over the years with Giants whose brilliance astounded me with their presence like Iggy, Rollins, Richard Hell, Robert Fripp. There are those who proved to be regular guys like Rodger Daltrey,Joe Walsh, The Meat Puppets,Setzer,2/3rds of The Jam and The guys in the Circle Jerks. Then there are wastes of carbon like Bono, "Diamond Dave", many,many too many with egos larger than contractual value. Some of my best stuff was in the heyday of " Americas Only Rock & Roll Magazine" with occasional then sporadic work until I lost interest for everything from Eurozines to tri state music rags. Since then I settled down, drink,screw,work a regular job and build guitars. I suppose my detractors were probably old enough to paint the wall with poo. Hell, probably some bastard kid of mine from gig or another. People yell at computers, no one is in front of a t.v., Elmo!
    No one cares about your sob story about the one journalist who once stuck it to the man who's now burnt out but still tries to tell the kids some sense over the internet. Get over yourself.
    Rev0lution10 wrote: No doubt that System of a Down could be right there with them. Serj and Tom are quite the "issue awareness" duo.
    Yeah, they've got a group called the axis of justice and they often work together.
    flyneye
    Danke! to my fans. Freelance Journalism has gotten me up close and personal over the years with Giants whose brilliance astounded me with their presence like Iggy, Rollins, Richard Hell, Robert Fripp. There are those who proved to be regular guys like Rodger Daltrey,Joe Walsh, The Meat Puppets,Setzer,2/3rds of The Jam and The guys in the Circle Jerks. Then there are wastes of carbon like Bono, "Diamond Dave", many,many too many with egos larger than contractual value. Some of my best stuff was in the heyday of " Americas Only Rock & Roll Magazine" with occasional then sporadic work until I lost interest for everything from Eurozines to tri state music rags. Since then I settled down, drink,screw,work a regular job and build guitars. I suppose my detractors were probably old enough to paint the wall with poo. Hell, probably some bastard kid of mine from gig or another. People yell at computers, no one is in front of a t.v., Elmo!
    Rev0lution10
    No doubt that System of a Down could be right there with them. Serj and Tom are quite the "issue awareness" duo.
    FRACTUREDx2
    PRSfanatic wrote: W8, I'm supposed to pay $3000 supposedly "Made in USA" Gibson while they get korean parts? I know fender had a korean line, but gibson? Good job for RATM to address an issue like this once again, and for letting me know how much more I hate Gibson now.
    ok.....well I love seeing how people know all about guitars!!! When it says "Made in the U.S.A it almost always (in fact, we'll just go with always) NEVER means that every single part of the guitar was made in the U.S. . All it means is the guitar was ASSEMBLED in the states.
    Greenday389
    irtiqaevox wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: flyneye : Like I told that Boob Bono after his post Bush meeting," Hey, Lucky Charms! When you fix the problems in Ireland, then you come tell us how it works, till then mind your own business and quit riding us to make yourself more famous." yelling it at the television doesnt actually count as "telling him off" stop trying to make yourself sound important to these people by talking down on people who do more of a cultural impact than you ever will. Tom and Bono (as much as i dislike the latter) have made the world a better place in a small way, whether you want to believe it or not. what have you done with your life? yelled at a tv with Bono on it and tell these people on UG *clap clap* +1
    +2
    Les Paul Ell
    flyneye wrote: This story is soooo incredibly old. It's true Cort/cor-tek as well as many many other industrial corporations in countries outside N.America and Europe regularly screw the local populace for a profit. If it were a U.S. company, I would say that's what you get for the free trade garbage, but Cort is just Asians screwing over asians. Tut, tut. So tell me what is worse. Paying unfair wages to poor who otherwise wouldn't work at all or using the plight of the poor to promote your waning public image. I personally blame Morrello for making the whammy pedal a misused joke. Like I told that Boob Bono after his post Bush meeting," Hey, Lucky Charms! When you fix the problems in Ireland, then you come tell us how it works, till then mind your own business and quit riding us to make yourself more famous." Well, Morello, grow up a bit and quit conning your followers into believing they are doing anything but making you richer by glomming onto your cause du jour. Learn to solo without raping a stomp box while you're at it.
    It's not a matter of just asians screwing over asians because we're buying the product. Western companies are part of the problem by allowing this to continue. While Fender conducted their half arsed investigation, that's at least not turning as much a blind eye as Gibson have done. Did you bring Bono into this just to insult to Irish? And who are you to even judge the man based on his humanitarian work? Say what you like about him personally, the man thinks AIDS and third world debt is a bigger issue than Ireland's modern situations, and that's up to him. Should we be insulting him for prioritising other issues over his homeland? I think we should praise the man for doing anything at all. As for your suggestion of Morello doing this to further his own benefit (between petty insults over his use over a PEDAL), he's a political activist. Look it up on wikipedia. This is what he does. He uses his position as someone with a lot of money to raise awareness of issues. Why the hell should you complain about this, do you benefit off of cheap labour and see him as a threat?
    metallica-#1
    flyneye : Like I told that Boob Bono after his post Bush meeting," Hey, Lucky Charms! When you fix the problems in Ireland, then you come tell us how it works, till then mind your own business and quit riding us to make yourself more famous."
    yelling it at the television doesnt actually count as "telling him off" stop trying to make yourself sound important to these people by talking down on people who do more of a cultural impact than you ever will. Tom and Bono (as much as i dislike the latter) have made the world a better place in a small way, whether you want to believe it or not. what have you done with your life? yelled at a tv with Bono on it and tell these people on UG *clap clap*
    syngates07
    Greenday389 wrote: irtiqaevox wrote: metallica-#1 wrote: flyneye : Like I told that Boob Bono after his post Bush meeting," Hey, Lucky Charms! When you fix the problems in Ireland, then you come tell us how it works, till then mind your own business and quit riding us to make yourself more famous." yelling it at the television doesnt actually count as "telling him off" stop trying to make yourself sound important to these people by talking down on people who do more of a cultural impact than you ever will. Tom and Bono (as much as i dislike the latter) have made the world a better place in a small way, whether you want to believe it or not. what have you done with your life? yelled at a tv with Bono on it and tell these people on UG *clap clap* +1 +2
    *more claps*
    TheWickerMan666
    PRSfanatic wrote: W8, I'm supposed to pay $3000 supposedly "Made in USA" Gibson while they get korean parts? I know fender had a korean line, but gibson? Good job for RATM to address an issue like this once again, and for letting me know how much more I hate Gibson now.
    You're being racist about guitars...
    axemagic
    flyneye wrote: This story is soooo incredibly old. It's true Cort/cor-tek as well as many many other industrial corporations in countries outside N.America and Europe regularly screw the local populace for a profit. If it were a U.S. company, I would say that's what you get for the free trade garbage, but Cort is just Asians screwing over asians. Tut, tut. So tell me what is worse. Paying unfair wages to poor who otherwise wouldn't work at all or using the plight of the poor to promote your waning public image. I personally blame Morrello for making the whammy pedal a misused joke. Like I told that Boob Bono after his post Bush meeting," Hey, Lucky Charms! When you fix the problems in Ireland, then you come tell us how it works, till then mind your own business and quit riding us to make yourself more famous." Well, Morello, grow up a bit and quit conning your followers into believing they are doing anything but making you richer by glomming onto your cause du jour. Learn to solo without raping a stomp box while you're at it.
    You're my new idol! I've thought this exact statement about Bono, Tom, and Tom's stupid attempts at playing guitar for years! + 1 million
    KataklysmDeth
    Adamski6 wrote: Korean guitars are one of the best types. Also, a good Korean Gibson or Fender is class. Not happy
    Don't forget Ibanez.
    shwilly
    Mazzieh wrote: Labor unions are pretty ****ed up and I bet they couldn't just fire them because of some stupid leftist-socialist laws. So pretty ****ed up of RATM to do this.
    Do us a favor and shut up. I can respect people who disagree with 'em on issues like their "glorification" of Sendero Luminoso or Che Guevara and such, but b*tching about the fact that they're supporting people who get cheated out of exercising one of their most basic rights is like complaining about the noise at a Cannibal Corpse gig: this is what they've been doing for the last 18 years, they never made a secret about their political convictions Now if they started playing Prussian Blue songs at Sarah Palin rallies while wearing Goldman Sachs t-shirts, THAT would be f***ed up...
    flyneye
    This story is soooo incredibly old. It's true Cort/cor-tek as well as many many other industrial corporations in countries outside N.America and Europe regularly screw the local populace for a profit. If it were a U.S. company, I would say that's what you get for the free trade garbage, but Cort is just Asians screwing over asians. Tut, tut. So tell me what is worse. Paying unfair wages to poor who otherwise wouldn't work at all or using the plight of the poor to promote your waning public image. I personally blame Morrello for making the whammy pedal a misused joke. Like I told that Boob Bono after his post Bush meeting," Hey, Lucky Charms! When you fix the problems in Ireland, then you come tell us how it works, till then mind your own business and quit riding us to make yourself more famous." Well, Morello, grow up a bit and quit conning your followers into believing they are doing anything but making you richer by glomming onto your cause du jour. Learn to solo without raping a stomp box while you're at it.
    Mazzieh
    Labor unions are pretty ****ed up and I bet they couldn't just fire them because of some stupid leftist-socialist laws. So pretty ****ed up of RATM to do this.
    jj arf
    he's headed in the right direction. just a little further north and he'll be in that communist utopia he so dearly admires.
    axemagic
    A. Tom should be in politics, not music. RATM are crap anyways. B. Let South Korea handle their own problems. Don't bring it here. If Fender/Gibson/Cort want to roll that way, fine. The South Koreans still make plenty of guitars for many others.
    flyneye
    BTW just go to youtube and search for Cort Cor/Tek to find everything you wanted to know about this and more. I saw it months and months ago.
    flyneye
    Mmmm O.K.,this is an ooooold story as I asserted in my first post.There are many films that will explain all from the workers perspective and introduce horrors like the fellow who lit himself on fire in protest over his lock out/job loss. Pretty basically everyone in the plant was locked out one day, Mr. Park packed up and moved the operation to Korea without paying anyone, remunerating retirement benefits or a Kiss my ass, Goodbye. Conditions were horrible, long hours, low pay,fearing for your job or pay if you scar a unit. Life sucks in other places in the world. People will work for less because less is better than nothing. This is what Asia thrives on. Anyway later on after Asian stars were rallying support Mr.Morello and others show up for the press to notice. I was surprised Bono didn't show up but then he does have a signature Gretsch (owned by Fender, and yes, many are Asian made). Well aside from the atrocities that I didn't need some Industry baby to point out( making them about as useful as Vanna White) in the end if you don't have a demand, you don't have reason to manufacture, with no manufacture come no jobs, with no jobs come no money, no food.... It's really time to start thinking for ourselves a bit, rather than letting Media/industry lackeys/politicians continue to use us at our expense to justify their ends. Prince Kropotkin was an Anarchist, google it, Morello, well.... you decide upon that evidence.
    Mazzieh
    They were cheated out of their jobs, because the factory owners were cheated out of their rights, the law tells them what to do and what an irony, Tom Morello is so pro anarchy. PS: Disregard the above comment
    Mazzieh
    shwilly wrote: Mazzieh wrote: Labor unions are pretty ****ed up and I bet they couldn't just fire them because of some stupid leftist-socialist laws. So pretty ****ed up of RATM to do this.Do us a favor and shut up. I can respect people who disagree with 'em on issues like their "glorification" of Sendero Luminoso or Che Guevara and such, but b*tching about the fact that they're supporting people who get cheated out of exercising one of their most basic rights is like complaining about the noise at a Cannibal Corpse gig: this is what they've been doing for the last 18 years, they never made a secret about their political convictions Now if they started playing Prussian Blue songs at Sarah Palin rallies while wearing Goldman Sachs t-shirts, THAT would be f***ed up...
    You're doing it wrong, right libertarian wing is not connected with Che Guevarra, get your facts straight, then come back.
    flyneye
    Walmart pays a half a living wage and drives small businesses outa business. It's seriously a case for regulation, which will probably happen now that the tides have shifted on Capitol Hill. I notice a lot of people swearing not to buy Cort/Cor-teK guitars, but these are also the same guys down at the guitarshop or musicians friend buying off the rack guitars. Such a high percentage comes from Cort or even Mexico which is still underpaid workers. Think other Asian guitar companies are any better? Whatever! My point is that your choice of a guitar just went from $100-4000 range up to the handbuilt American guitar $3000-$100000 range. In our post-RATM world I suppose you could look at it as helping feed some poor Asian or Mexican who's working his ass off. So don't be afraid to go ahead and buy that Ibanhad, Fenduh,or Gobson fiddle thingy from your local shop and feed poor ol N'gok or Paco with that hard earned Wal-Mart check. "I believe in this and it's been tested by research. He who f**ks nuns, will later join the church" --Joe Strummer-Death or Glory
    CaliforniaKid
    I was going to buy a Cort, but after hearing about this (before RATM took it on as another publicity opportunity) I didn't. I don't particularly care that RATM has found another cause to show the world how totally bitchin' they are, but when Cort management wouldn' allow bathroom breaks for their workers I decided they don't deserve my money.
    martyr1130
    flyneye wrote: This story is soooo incredibly old. It's true Cort/cor-tek as well as many many other industrial corporations in countries outside N.America and Europe regularly screw the local populace for a profit. If it were a U.S. company, I would say that's what you get for the free trade garbage, but Cort is just Asians screwing over asians. Tut, tut. So tell me what is worse. Paying unfair wages to poor who otherwise wouldn't work at all or using the plight of the poor to promote your waning public image. I personally blame Morrello for making the whammy pedal a misused joke. Like I told that Boob Bono after his post Bush meeting," Hey, Lucky Charms! When you fix the problems in Ireland, then you come tell us how it works, till then mind your own business and quit riding us to make yourself more famous." Well, Morello, grow up a bit and quit conning your followers into believing they are doing anything but making you richer by glomming onto your cause du jour. Learn to solo without raping a stomp box while you're at it.
    That's gotta be a joke. Do some research on just Walmart alone. You will SHIT yourself.
    Pontius2000
    The reason they took these jobs from Americans and sent the across the country to little yellow people is so they would NOT have to pay liveable wages and deal with unions. So welcome to the free market, now go back to whatever you were doing before. There have been millions of Americans who have lost jobs, so I feel absolutely nothing for the people who helped steal them.
    BeerChurch
    Oh, so Korea is taking after the Corps. right here in the USA. In fact, this was probably a direct order from a pompous, white, fat, American CEO right here in the states.
    -Annihilation-
    catastrofx617 wrote: Should be interesting to see where this goes. I love Tom for doing something like this. Any idiot can go on T.V. and talk about how wrong or unjust something is, but Tom really follows through on issue he feels strongly about. Here's to hoping he doesn't get arrested again.
    Well said,my friend.
    Slap-happy
    As for the people querying Morello's ability to play - not in question here. Although I can assure you he can shred, he chooses not to because, having seen countless others doing it (many no-names that were/are better than the rich and famous) he decided the only way to carve a niche out for himself was to find a new approach. How many here have tried that? Or are you too busy slavishly copying others sweep arpeggios and re-hashing the tapping from Eruption?
    NIN1993
    PRSfanatic wrote: W8, I'm supposed to pay $3000 supposedly "Made in USA" Gibson while they get korean parts? I know fender had a korean line, but gibson? Good job for RATM to address an issue like this once again, and for letting me know how much more I hate Gibson now.
    just because they use parts from other countries doesn't mean they don't assemble them here. Nothing is made in America
    MS_Mosher
    Rage doesn't do this for publicity... they use their publicity to do it... a brief look at the history of the band shows them involved in activism long before they were famous. I admire RATM's principles. I also admire that they stick by them, no matter what. I'm reasonably certain that they had to fight their hearts out to put some of the stuff on CD that they did.
    Funk-E-Munk
    gotta say rage, **** you, fight the power all you want but at least leave us with with fight songs we need you, the world needs you! we need bombtracks!
    sombrerromonkey
    Wow, this is ironic. Rage Against The Machine talks about economic issues and stuff and now this. I wonder if anyone played Killing in the Name of or Testify.
    PRSfanatic
    suicidehummer wrote: LOL at the idiots thinking Gibsons are made in Korea because of one misleading article. Gibson owns Epiphone, who makes guitars in Korea. Technically they are making guitars for Gibson, but they aren't making Gibsons. Get it?
    The article says gibson PARTS, not whole guitars. Read it and it says
    manufactured guitar parts for companies such as Gibson,
    Epiphones are made in china these days, just saying.
    mac_attack
    Down with the machine! Actually all manager types can just bite it (few exceptions)
    NHECOS
    Corporate managers forget about the despair of these workers towards their families. If they put themselves in that position when you son/daughter is hungry and you just can't feed them... just imagine the agony of that. These corporate fat cats should walk a mile in the workers shoes (put themselves in their position).
    nigeltheginger
    So wait they lost their jobs in 2007 and they're still protesting? I mean sure, fight for principles and against injustive, but it's been 3 years, couldn't they just get another job?
    PnT
    Argh, typo. I own a Cort guitar. Knowing they mistreated their workers sucks...
    cRACk mONKEyTTU
    mat hazelwood wrote: i like how the last two news stories about rage are "rage against the machine not planning new album", and "rage against the machine planning new album?"
    That's awesome, thanks for pointing that out. Pretty funny. It's also good that Tom Morello is doing something about this, though I don't agree with all of them standing up for illegal immigrants in Arizona a year or so ago.