Sex Pistols Slam Green Day

John Lydon has hit out at Green Day calling them "plonk" and accusing them of stealing the term "punk".

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The former Sex Pistols frontman John Lydon has lashed out at rockers Green Day, accusing them of stealing the term "punk". The singer -- who performed as Johnny Rotten -- claims the American band has reduced a political movement into a simple musical style.

He says, according to Contactmusic: "Don't try and tell me Green Day are punk. They're not, they're plonk and they're bandwagoning on something they didn't come up with themselves. I think they are phony."

Referring to his band's battle with the police and censors during its heyday, Lydon adds, "The government's against you, the police are on you.

"So there we are fending off all that and it pisses me off that years later a wank outfit like Green Day hop in and nick all that and attach it to themselves.

"They didn't earn their wings to do that and if they were true punk they wouldn't look anything like they do."

Thanks for the info to PunkBands.com.

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    j0nmcc
    dude, we're comment cleaners. so we can. and dont mess with us. we'll warn your ass straight outta here. okay.
    jklsadj;sadjfak
    hes jelous end of story. he made one good album and now hes whining and doing stupid tv shows to get money cus he blew all his on cars. sex pistols were not rebels or anything. they were controled by corporate *****s like every other huge band. hes jelous, thats all there is to it.
    Obie
    almost all mainstream music today sucks ****in sweaty monkey balls
    clazz
    Green Day influenced a lot of people before American Idiot was released. Anyway, wasn't it Avril Lavigne that sort of started the whole faux-punk trend? She's worse than Green Day for that.
    Letterbomb11
    Does anyone besides me think that the reason Green Day has commericialized themselves is because of LABEL OBLIGATIONS?
    egadowsk
    First of all- The pistols never sold millions, even today theyve sold less than 500k copies, their success was entirely based on reputation since the airwaves wouldnt play 'em. The Pistols may have focused heavily on aesthetics but aside from that, they wrote their own material and did what they wanted to do which resulted in things that dont do well for success- censorship, shops refusing to carry their singles, the US briefly refusing to allow them to tour, getting kicked off a major label (EMI). McLaren used the Pistols and the entire London punk scene to sell clothing but he didnt "manufacture" or create the band. Rottens point is valid- Green Day to this day still refer to themselves and their music as punk in their interviews. Unlike The Pistols, Green Day has never faced censorship, intolerance, violence, police brutality for their music and views.
    22acacia
    Im only saying Johnny has made a HUGE impact on the punk community so he has a right to voice his ****ing opinion. U people act like this is someone that hasnt done shit for music or the punk community.
    Aceman_196
    What is punk? dudes punk to me is living life for you not trying to follow trends. GC is not punk. pumks dont care about money. you see the members of GC on cribs showing of their SH#tY cars that they put thousands and thousands on. thats not punk. just because you wear black and put on makeup that doesnt meen crap. punk is the way you live not the way you play.
    22acacia
    mattlock: Dookie Green Day = Good American Idiot Green Day = Just about as bad as Simple Plan Sex Pistols = "Let's start a band and have someone else tell us what to do and make millions! w00t w00t!" AKA, just as bad as Simple Plan.
    Heres a better one: Sex Pistols: Influenced thousand of kids to play badass music and express themselves. Green Day: Influenced thousand of American Idiots to watch the Daily Show and hate Bush.
    pistols
    ^You're full of sh*t end of story. He's made at least four good albums and now he's complaining that a comercialized outfit says they are what they're not. Sex pistols went against the government, and started making poeple take notice of the sh*t they were in. They hated the corperate b*tches and refused to do what they said. He p*ssed off because they turned a rebellion against corporation into a money spinning scheme. And I notice you are jhkjbkhga, the hated green day lover. You don't know anything about the pistols, you just want to cover for your bum-buddies.
    broken_leg
    "punk sucks, what the hell do you guys have against the government, you idiots, go live in f*cking cambodia where they'll cut your balls off you pansy ass pussies" --- yeah good call
    ibanez_player
    damn right!
    Aceman_19 6 wrote: What is punk? dudes punk to me is living life for you not trying to follow trends. GC is not punk. pumks dont care about money. you see the members of GC on cribs showing of their SH#tY cars that they put thousands and thousands on. thats not punk. just because you wear black and put on makeup that doesnt meen crap. punk is the way you live not the way you play.
    Aceman_196
    you guys just cant say a band sucks. people have diffrent taste. you can say u dont like a band.
    Cirrus Minor
    Green Day > Sex Pistols The Sex Pistols were never the center of punk that they thought they were. They thought they were revolutionary, they sucked.
    guns4ever
    the man seems pretty bitter, but this is one thing i need to agree on...i was a big GD fan before american idiot, but now i have no respect for them or what they do...in my opinion they cashed in on a terrible thing(the war), and wouldnt be nearly as huge as they are now without it.its a shame really.
    mattlock
    Dookie Green Day = Good American Idiot Green Day = Just about as bad as Simple Plan Sex Pistols = "Let's start a band and have someone else tell us what to do and make millions! w00t w00t!" AKA, just as bad as Simple Plan.
    jklsadj;sadjfak
    and did anyone hear Johnny Rotten is doing some film thing with JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE? ya, dont get much more punk than that
    Tortiss
    punk_pwincess wrote: Man, now i HATE the sex pistols! Don't flame Green Day.. they are a great band. just because theyre new stuff is more pop-punk than punk-rock doesn't mean theyre not punk at all. cmon man, some people (idiots, as i like to call them) think that bands like good charlotte or simple plan are punks. NOT TRUE! and some other idiots compare green day to those bands, thinking theyre the same. NOT TRUE! Green Day is one of the most successful bands so dont say sh*t about them.. F*CK YOU! sorry.. im bored and i felt like sticking up
    Just because the are succsessful has nothing to do weither they are good or not...There are tons of better underground bands who are way better than Green Day and they have no recignition...So Success has NOTHING to do with it!
    22acacia
    pee951 ur ****ing retarded quit shuffling through your moms old punk records from her whoring days and quit pretending to know something. Johnny Rotten is pissed off because (even if its not true) he feels that green day is ruinning the punk legacy by being complete douchbags and playing shitty pop music while saying they are punk. johhny lydon has done alot for real punk man he inspried a lot of ****ing kids to play their hearts out and not give a shit.
    R.A.T.M_Fan1989
    sell outs.... johno has a very comendable point and i think no one knows more about punk than that man.... billie joe is a wanker
    rayIII
    EpiLesPaul wrote: haha, green day is so far from punk rock its hilarious,
    exactly.... i agree 100% with everything he said
    clazz
    Oh, who cares if Green Day 'sold out'!? EVERY band seems to have bloody 'sold out' these days. If the music's good, then who cares? And if you don't like the music, just ignore them.
    Tortiss
    I think we need a new genre for bands like Green Day, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte etc. Lets trade in the genre "PUNK POP" for the the new and improved genre: "A BUNCH OF EMO IDIOTS WHO CAN'T PLAY THEIR INTRUMENTS AND IN GENERAL JUST SUCK"
    22acacia
    the debat is not whether or not green day is punk you dumbasses its whether or not johnny has a reason to be pissed and i say he has every ****ing reason to be
    drugless_stoner
    cap'nkirk: drugle ss_stoner wrote: capn kirk, i dont agreee with most of what your saying, although in do agree with a lot of it, but stil, i respect you for actually having a point of view other then "greenday rox my sox", "greenday sux my cox", or" "**** you", lol, as i said to a guy above me, if were werent on opposite sides of the war, we could be best friends, lol, if you ever want to continue discussing it, m me, ill gldaly keep ranting if you will haha, for sure. I don't think you're an idiot for saying what you're saying. You make sense, and you're not just some mindless ass with no point whatsoever. I just happen to disagree with you. Cheers!
    this could be the start of a beautiful rivalry, lol, cheers
    cap'nkirk
    drugless_stoner wrote: i read your statement, and im fine with it, and if you look through my posts you will know taht i back up absolutley everything i say, more so ten most, just have a look. and i see rancid on tv all the time, over here anyway, maybe mtv in america jsut doesnt like them, because thy look like punks. and you still havent told me why greenday are sellouts yet, what did they sell to, how did they compromise therir music, cmon, i want details
    Their first step toward selling out was when they left Lookout records. You could argue this wasn't band, I don't really see a problem yet. When Warning didn't sell that well, this is when things got bad, in my opinion when most of the selling out occured. Then they started accepting offers for magazines, ie. Rolling Stone which is not a punk publication. Dressed like a bunch of emo kids. They sold the rights of "American Idiot" Madden 2005 Green Day filed a lawsuit against Lookout Records for the masters of the material that they produced with Lookout. Green Day playing with the idea of a movie for American Idiot, which I'm sure will be paid for by a major label movie maker. After Warning didn't sell that well, the band completely changed their image to a more current, pop-emo look. Should I go on?
    The Fiddler
    Green Day is overrated and people need to stop denying it. Sure they have some ability, but not nearly enough to earn the success they recieved. John Lydon has every right to be pissed, Green Day's lyrics are in no way powerful. They think they know politics, but you can tell from "American Idiot" that they are trying to be something they're not: Punk. Go Sex Pistols...f*ck GD.
    22acacia
    i wouldnt call them emo i would call them pathetic musicians who cant think for themselves and have to jump on the liberal reatrd band wagong to sell records. has nothing to do with there style its all about content. they are complete idiots man. every single person has become interested in politics lately because it fashionable and any musician who does it deserves no respect what so ever.
    drugless_stoner
    really, this argumant was good for a while, but now its just turned back into "punks" fighting with anybody willing to read there posts, im off, if you want my view, read my comments, if you want more, pm me, but im not staying for this shit, bubeye
    cap'nkirk
    drugless_stoner wrote: capn kirk, i dont agreee with most of what your saying, although in do agree with a lot of it, but stil, i respect you for actually having a point of view other then "greenday rox my sox", "greenday sux my cox", or" "**** you", lol, as i said to a guy above me, if were werent on opposite sides of the war, we could be best friends, lol, if you ever want to continue discussing it, m me, ill gldaly keep ranting if you will
    haha, for sure. I don't think you're an idiot for saying what you're saying. You make sense, and you're not just some mindless ass with no point whatsoever. I just happen to disagree with you. Cheers!
    no_comedy
    eldanny: whats happend to green day is alota things in 1 way they may actully be the victems..... apart form make good music using the skills they have a band dont have much control over them selves... the rest is up to a manager.. comersaling (i cant spell) has made people who like other types of music like them more e.g. theres a ugly girl in my form in skol who looks like a beaded pig. she likes anything that is sopossed to be populer (like pop shit like britney speares) so as green day become populer these "other" pople begain to like them giving them a bad name that there not punk anymore (if they were in the 1st place) i admit i may listen to green day but if i judged a band interlly on apreance i would not but there stuff.....
    Yeah there are people like that at my school too. One asked me if I liked Green Day and I said ' I liked Dookie and Kerplunk, but that new album isn't that good' (or something along those lines) and she was like 'Dookie? What's that?' And that is what annoys me! Most people that claim to be 'Green Day's biggest fan' or crap like that didn't even know who they were before they released American Idiot. True fans? I think not!
    ibanez_pla yer wrote: Sex pistols???? what the hell's that? and green day rox so **** off
    You Sir, are a moron!
    xgrindco rex: too bad sex pistols aren't punk either
    LOL! Sigged!
    jimmcs2000
    Sex pistols sucked! That was part of the beauty of a 100%, don't give a ****, do your own thing punk. No punk bands are like the old days-they're dead. If any of you were at a show in the 80's that got raided, shut down and ****ed up by the cops you know what punk was - no whining- just do your ****ing thing. Suicidal tendencies were banned in L.A. That's what punk was. Now It's just a bunch of mainstream media liberals whining about a president and get there idea's from cnn. The production value of "punk" is better today but the message is empty. 420
    pee951
    johnny lydon is a clown. hes trying to say something ridiculous for the press. sid vicous was punk. joe strummer was punk. mick jones punk. paul westerberg punk.husker du punk. johnny cash was punk. green day are the result of some strong punk and political influences.
    saulhudsonslash
    i love sex pistols as much as the next guy but johnny just has to stop being such an *****, sure green day arent punk theyre pop-punk but even billie joe himself has said that punk rock died cuz he ****ing killed it so come on man get a damn life and dont judge another bands artistic ability, however limited it may be.
    Chevelle454
    whats up with this hate the government and blame them bullshit, its rediculous. if there wasnt government and whatever the hell the punks want, people would kill their faggot asses. hmm if you live in america the richest and most powerful country in the world, why the hell would you want to crash the government and that shit. hell, you want no ****ing government go to ****ing afric and allthe other shitholes without governments. ****in faggots
    xgrindcorex
    Chestaufissen wrote: we_all_rock: D ude that guy sucks.He is just jealous bcoz greenday has achieved a lot and his did not..LOL... Yes I'm sure he is jealous of an emo fag liike Billie Ho. Johnny Rotten looks way more punk then that bullshit Billie wears around his eyes.
    "looks" more punk?
    Strum-Maista
    I used to like greenday but did anyone ever like their music before 2004??? Lydon is right. greenday arent punk, they r wannabes who have let the true meaning of punk turn into a crappy sing along. when did punk ever become something about gothic problems???
    Hooyahman
    I say Rockontilludie is completely right. A good song is a good song. No matter who, what, where, when, or why. And everyone's entitled to an opinion so people shud stop ragging on everyone else.
    sCrackRockStedy
    i agree that the sex pistols are major sellout faggots, i mean look at johnny rotton hes a rich bastard, sid made an action figure of himself, and then they claim that punks don't sell out, but then again green day did make the punk scene go to complete shit, so did GC and SP and stuff like that, sex pistols may have been cool long ago, but know they are just sellout faggots, you don't have to spike your hair or wear leather jackets to be punk, and its not about going out and disgusting people, its about having enjoying your self and being yourself, and the term punk or this kind of music is not really true, the first bands of punk did not say "oh we are so punk" they just played how they wanted and couldn't give a **** what people though of them the term punk for this music came from the media (which are complete *****s in everything) well i can name some punk bands you guys can try to listen to some are The Adicts, Cheap Sex, Dead kennedys, misfits (though over here they are becoming a fasion scene ) Leftover Crack, The Adolescents, Casualties, rancid(before industrial, which most new kids thing thats all rancid was) sham 69 and so on, but i don't want to take a crap load of space
    xDanx
    I agree, don't be political. Just cause you watch CNN doesn't mean you have the knowledge of what it takes to run a government.
    Zoso68
    i agree that green day isnt punk...its punk revival which is a big difference