Teacher Placed On Administrative Leave For Playing HIM During Class

That parents of some students at Excelsior Middle School said a teacher there has been playing songs about suicide and death to their children during class.

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FoxCarolina.com reports that parents of some students at Excelsior Middle School said a teacher there has been playing songs about suicide and death including HIM's "Join Me In Death" to their children during class. The school district said sixth-grade science teacher Karen Hipp has been placed on administrative leave while they investigate the parents' claims. "These are sixth-graders listening to songs about committing suicide or killing others," said one of the parents who did not want to be identified. "I found it very inappropriate." This parent said he first heard the music after his children brought home a CD which they say has a sampling of the songs Hipp plays in class on it. His children also told him that Hipp has downloaded several of the songs for the students to take home and listen to. One of the songs, called "Join Me In Death", is by a rock band called HIM. It has lyrics like, "We are so young. Our lives have just begun. Baby, join me in death." Another parent said although she was upset to hear the music, she said she is relieved that the superintendent took swift action. "When they're exposed to something like this, (the children) have mixed feelings about what's wrong and what's right," said another parent. School officials said they are investigating the accusations against Hipp, but they said it is too early to talk about the case. Thanks for the info to Metalfromfinland.com.

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    Beyond Massacre
    parents really seem to be stuck on blaming the music, maybe the teacher was ****ed up in the head, but what does Ville Vallo have to do with it?
    Mulldarran
    They are probably christians, they take EVERYTHING so ****ing serious. Hate them. It's just HIM for christ sake! Some of the most lame "metal" around, I would have understood better if it was some Black Metal band or something.
    .6.bullets.
    Uh... odd. o.o Maybe it's not the best music for 6th graders... But really, it's not that bad. Chill, for f*ck's sake.
    seek_&_destroy
    honestly.. like HONESTLY when's the last time music has caused someone to kill themselves/others. Sure maybe ppl who listen to music involving suicide and death do turn out to commit suicide/murder... but is it honestly the music's fault? prove that to me and i'll stop listening to all my metal.
    roarinflames
    Slipyes wrote: LOL. I gave my teacher a cd to play during class (he did, he's super cool), the band "Suicide Silence"...hehe, people laughed, but hes not in trouble...yet.
    those guys are ****ing awesome and for ****s sake its just gothic metal i remember in fifth grade when my teacher turned off the thong song that was the worst song they could have played. and i wish someone played something like HIM when i was younger. i wouldve gotten into metal alot faster that way.
    porchmonkey4lif
    Altered_Life wrote: Frikkin lame. How stupid could they get? That's like someone getting permission from the school to play "300" in their history class and then having some kid going out, killing someone with a home-made spear and blaming the movie for it!
    300 isnt historically accurate enough to be played in school in my opinion. its still awesome though
    longhornchad200
    Maybe their parents were better parents there kids wouldn't be so conflicted... ever think about that. Ooooh.
    Slipyes
    LOL. I gave my teacher a cd to play during class (he did, he's super cool), the band "Suicide Silence"...hehe, people laughed, but hes not in trouble...yet.
    South-of-Heaven
    The real reason she's on administrative leave is because she played crap music. In that case I agree with this statement; "When they're exposed to something like this, (the children) have mixed feelings about what's wrong and what's right," And Kriss08, romeo and juliet do actually kill theirselves you know, you know like suicide?
    Anti Vicarious
    Isn't HIM's fan base made up of 6th and 7th graders anyways? But I do agree they are going way over the top with it. I bet you if a teacher was playing soldierBOI!!! in class no one would say a word. So hey kids, its okay to degrade women and talk like an uneducated fool, but if you relate to some lyrics about depression, there's something wrong with you. =D
    steve.bond7
    roarinflames : "and for ****s sake its just gothic metal i remember in fifth grade when my teacher turned off the thong song" - lol....its called "Love Metal" actually not gothic metal. search it up
    steve.bond7
    "People will always make whatever they want out of something. Its only art and shouldnt be taken so seriously. Its about expressing your feelings through music and lyrics and it is not about actually doing something. It is a very healthy way of getting rid of your negative feelings. People who take things out of context and are like this are usually narrow minded and unrealistic." - thats from an interview with Mikko Lindstrom (the lead guitarist of HIM) I think that HIM are one of the most under-rated bands on this planet at the minute. I mean yeah, everyone has the right to an opinion but surely you can't ignore the achievements HIM have accomplished. For ex. becoming the first finnish band to go "gold" in the USA, I don't actually think some people recognise how hard it is to go "gold" in the states. They are a unique band and should be recognised more in other countries. As Mikko Lindstrom said, "Its only art and shouldnt be taken so seriously". But yet, why do people take things so seriously like its the end of the world. My final point is that no-one has the right to tell this school teacher what she can and cannot listen to. I think its a disgrace that she's put on "leave" because she has a particular interest in a certain band.
    lunchbox129
    I love how it's fine that kids are allowed to learn about William Shakespeare and some of his writings like "Hamlet" or even "Romeo And Juliet". But as soon as their kids listen to the song "Join Me In Death" WHICH IS ABOUT ROMEO AND JULIET!!!!! it's an outrage.....some people are such stupid douchebags
    g27dude
    lol the song isn't about committing suicide. i listened to HIM in 6th grade and i understood the lyrics completely
    coookies!
    haha well first of all this song is clearly not about suicide and they are in sixth grade. when i was in sixth grade i listened to music a lottttt worse than HIM. not saying HIM produces 'bad' music though =]
    Smash Adams
    (Why commment if you random folk hate the band so much? I don't get it, you'd think hating them you wouldn't take the time to do so. Argh)This is a fantastic this story though! I wish I had a teacher like this Hipp woman when I was at school. The ironic thing is, if those anal parents actually took the time to add up the facts, is that the song is actually based on Romeo and Juliet 'Would you die tonight for love?' So if their darling children can read about love and death, why is it not appropriate for them to hear about it?
    little_goth_kid
    What is the difference between listening to all the pop crap about having sex and awsome metal talking bout suicide? NOTHING does the pop music MAKE us have sex..no, so will metal MAKE us commit suicide NO parents just don't understand good music when they hear it! At the end of the day we all make our own choices! HIM RULE!
    tim311mahoney
    The teacher shouldn't be playing this stuff to the kids. Not because the music is "inappropriate" but because she should have known that these hippie half-assed parents would make a stink about it.
    fireoptic
    Say what you want, but these are 6th grade kids IN SCHOOL. The teacher is giving out burned copies of purchased music, which is illegal. He is playing music that has explicit lyrics for a bunch of 12 year olds without parents permission in a GOVERNMENT FACILITY. And third of all, HIM sucks. He's getting kids into bad music. LOCK HIM UP!
    hitek008
    i had an 8th grade teacher who played type o negative on his computer before....i had an uncle....but he died
    little_goth_kid
    What's the differnce in kids listening to this pop crap talking about sex, than listening to some awsome metal. Just because the song is about suicide, doesn't mean if we listen to it we will commit suicide. Honestly, parents just don't understand!
    slashzsystem
    yerr same her man
    PurpleDinosaur wrote: This teacher is my hero. Yet another blow to the HIM's already downtrodden reputation. I don't get why everyone hates them for being... well, original.
    xxxFMDxxx
    Thats so stupid. Those kids are gonna learn about subjects that are alot worse then that as they progress through school.
    bwalter32
    i think the real crime here is that the children were forced to listen to HIM. shit, if i was those kids i would want to kill myself after that too!
    outerheaven2005
    What the hell? "Join Me" is about Romeo and Juliet. And I learned about Romeo and Juliet in 5th grade...
    Altered_Life
    Frikkin lame. How stupid could they get? That's like someone getting permission from the school to play "300" in their history class and then having some kid going out, killing someone with a home-made spear and blaming the movie for it!
    chidori_mark
    jesus...parents these days just need to let their children do what they want...if they wanna listen to some HIM...let them listen to some HIM, if they don't like it then they wont listen to it. but all i can say is at least the teacher wasn't play no cannibal corpse...like any of the kids would know what he is saying haha
    classicrocker10
    i say home school your kid if you're gonna be like that. i personally hate HIM and 90% of metal but jeez kids dont commit suicide/muder because of music. all they gotta do is walk out the door and see thugs robbing a bank and killing the teller. or let them listen to rap. they'll be superman-in some ho before the end of the week. it's ridiculous.
    Shaned
    yeah really, it's not like HIM is like cannibal corpse or something like that, sure sixth grade is a little young but i listened to heavier shit when i was that age
    ready2breakdown
    Screw HIM their lyrics really arent anything to cry over. When they give you lyrics sung like a friggin fairy tale, there's no harm done. lol. If anything those parents should be bitching about how she let them listen to that fruitcup frontman they have. (I'm so mean, but I love it!) It is really weird how this teacher was giving them CDs to take home and shit though. If I didn't know any better I would think she trying to start a cult(maybe of death or homosexuality of some sort)!(sarcasm) Or she's just a really dedicated street team member.
    LeVeL-27 Freak
    well i say if you like THAT band you deserve to be sacked but hey thats what i think i hate them i mean the dude sed in an interview "hey if its about heart break, death or shit that these emo kids will listen to it. making money off them is soooo ****ing easy" so i want him to rot in hell so if you dont like it dont give me shit cose just look at what your precious valo thinks of you all
    atc228
    wow.....it's always metal's fault now isn't it? Original scapegoat parents, very original...
    XXm3t@lXX
    atc228 wrote: wow.....it's always metal's fault now isn't it? Original scapegoat parents, very original...
    yeah i agree, i disagree about him being metal... but i do understand what you mean.
    PurpleDinosaur
    This teacher is my hero. Yet another blow to the HIM's already downtrodden reputation. I don't get why everyone hates them for being... well, original.
    Sylvanus
    That's so stupid, I doubt it would even affect the kid's thoughts on suicide and death. People kill themselves because they can't cope with their problems, not because of the music they listen to. Also, I bet the teacher is just trying to show them some different music than what they'd most likely be getting into at this age.
    strat0blaster
    Better ban the TV and news, radio and other people too. I don't think it was right of the dude to play that in a middle school class, but if the parents raise their children properly, it won't affect them in that way regardless of what the guy would have played in class.
    DreamTheater09
    atc228 wrote: wow.....it's always metal's fault now isn't it? Original scapegoat parents, very original...
    true that, my friend true that
    DreamTheater09
    i was with my counseler 2day, and she had her ipod playin sumthin in its dock, but when i walked in, she quickly changed it and said, "not appropriate for school" lmao