Tool's Maynard: Why I Hate People Filming Concerts With Phones

"As a postcard I suppose it works."

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Tool's Maynard: Why I Hate People Filming Concerts With Phones

Tool frontman Maynard James Keenan expressed his disdain of concertgoers filming shows with phones, telling Joe Rogan (transcribed by UG):

"This stuff annoys me - because I'm a firm believer in oral tradition.

"I embrace the storytelling - being able to describe to your friends that, sitting around that fire after a good long day of hunting.

"Where you tell the story about hunt and you do all those things, and those family stories, and your grandfather, and your great-grandfather's stories are told in that setting.

"And you're not writing it down. It's a tradition of understanding the details and being able to explain and expand on the details from your recollection of what you saw.

"But if you have no skills in absorbing what you saw, if you rely on this thing [holds up a phone] to capture their stories for you...

"First of all, nothing you're gonna get at a show is gonna represent what you just saw, or what you were there for.

"As a postcard I suppose it works. But stay present! Stay with these people to be there for this thing. That's far more important.

"Also, as courtesy, maybe the person behind you would like to be that person who's enjoying this and now your shit's in their way."

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    Oh and also stop holding up other things that block the others vision. Dick move.
    I agree 100% with him on this. I guess I'm a jerk.
    Take pictures, show friends and family what other looked like, tell them what is was like in the other ways. But don't film with your stupid camera the whole time. You will lose a big part you paid for.
    Agreed. Taking a few pics is what i consider OK but when someone is filming every goddamn song with a crappy old HTC? That's just retarded.
    Kids these days can't wipe their own ass without smart phones. Its quite pathetic.
    Im actually taking a shit as I type this. Im not exactly a kid as Im almost 30, but you are correct sir
    Finally someone fucking said it. I was at the GnR concert in madrid. People wouldn't stop fucking filming! Morons infront of me with selfie sticks. This one guy beside me decided to do a 360 selfie. Great i thought and knocked the phone out of his hand. He got pissed but don't regret it for one second.  If it's a good concert you will remember it!  So to you selfish pissants out there who decide to ruin a concert for the next few ppl behind you. Fuck you!
    You deserve an ass whooping if you knock someones phone out of there hand.
    As if he actually did it :p
    Hard to believe with me and I'm not violent but I've been waiting 15 years to see GnR live and I wouldn't let that dude ruin it for me. This was towards the end of the show. Mind you, he and some other dudes were filming almost every song and I just had enough. He just cursed at me in Spanish or some shit and i continued watching the show.
    I fucking hate phone goers at music concerts.  The crowd doesnt move anymore so rock is super dead because of this.  Every is afraid to knock people phones out of there hands.  I think they should ban them.
    Badass UltraMan
    Do people who record gigs with their phone swap other amazing experiences for crappy documentation of it too? "Yeah mate, I went to Paris but I didn't get chance to visit the Eiffel Tower. I was too busy looking for postcards of it instead."
    I think there's a fine line with this issue. I'll take a few pics, and maybe record one song at shows. But if you're too busy filming the entire show to live in the moment a little bit, where's the fun in that? 
    Shut up and make a Tool album already, bruh.
    Dude he did this interview awhile ago. Its not his fault UG takes one interview and milks dozens of news stories out of it. They have been quoting the same Metallica article since November, I shit you not.
    If you HAVE to use your phone at a concert, for the love of everyone else around you, turn the brightness down. Its not a hard thing to do, you know, to think about those around you. I try and be as stealthy as possible. And, if someone says something to you about it, don't get pissy with them, apologize and turn down your freakin brightness.
    Mr. Baloonhands
    I'm guilty of having recorded a song or two at a show in the past but to be perfectly honest, i hardly ever go back to watch them. I know a lot of friends who are the type of people Maynard describes and I know for a fact that they never revisit those videos. Not sure why its so hard for people these days to just leave their phone alone, enjoy the experience, and then tell people about what they saw the next day. Its like they're worrying too much about whether anyone will believe them without proof that they were there lol
    Everyone shitting on concert filmers yet love those 'Ozzy's first show back!' and 'Metallica plays song X at their last concert for the first time!' clips on youtube lol. Where do you think all those clips come from. People that film the whole show, yeah thats lame. But if you bust out your phone to grab 2 minutes of a song for posterity... no problem at all with that. Especially if the band is charging $100+ per ticket. Do what you want, just stay out of my way and dont be obnoxious.
    I don't think there's anything wrong with recording songs at a show. As long as you be respectful and not block anyone's view. If I pay over $100 for a ticket, I should be allowed to enjoy it how I want and have something to remember it by. Just saw Metallica, they actually allowed 'real cameras' in, and I recorded quite a few songs. I have no regrets since I certainly don't remember much from my last time seeing them in 2004. I do it for my own personal collection, and don't upload if I think it's garbage. I hold it close by at neck level so it doesn't bother anyone, and I'm not just starring though the screen the whole time, so I'm still having a great time. I have a huge archive of shows that I'll re-watch once in a while, and I'm glad I have something to look back on and enjoy. This guy sounds like someone who can't get with the times, people are just going to have to adapt and accept. Of course there's a lot of shitty amateur recordings , but for me personally, I like to take a little pride in making sure I capture something worth watching again. It certainly does represent what I just saw at the time. Also, how can everyone bitch so much when, without bootleggers, we wouldn't have Cliff em' All, or even one of the first Megadeth shows they ever played. Everyone's against it until they see a good quality bootleg out for a show they missed and just makes you look like a hypocrite.
    No doubt. Over the years I have tried to capture video at various shows; sometimes a song or two, sometimes a full set. I rarely rewatch the footage and in the moment am more annoyed that I can sing and jump along because it will ruin my shot. I have WAY more fun when I leave my phone in the car!
    I have seen every Tool show in Chicago and have never taken a picture... not a video nor a recording of any of it. I'm there to escape, emerse and enjoy... Why watch on a screen what you can see right there in front of you. Leave your screens in the car and disconnect in order to reconnect. You are missing the full intensity of the magic and wonderhappening right in front of your faces!!
    I can get maybe 1 song, just to have for whatever. Snap a few pics here and there. But if you film the whole thing what is the point? You just wasted money to stare at a phone. 
    This was a really good podcast with Maynard and Joe. I saw tool and primus last year in San Antonio and some drunk sob in front of me kept recording the show. Something like that really does ruin the experience. How they mentioned " oooo look i recorded a fireworks diplay let me share this."
    Really, I spent most of the concert being blinded by security guards shining bright ass flashlights into the crowd. That alone is enough for me to never go to another Tool concert again.
    Saw them back in 98 and was one of the most lackluster shows I have ever been to. I wouldn't pay to see them again.
    Not to say you're most likely to record an amateur video you won't really watch later on. Unless you're lucky to get a decent view and you have a smartphone with good quality mic and camera with hardware image stabilisation, you're just distracting yourself with it instead of enjoying the show. Most bands nowadays have professional people recording it so it's quite pointless.
    I took a photo of myself and my 20 year old daughter! Celebrating her first Tool concert since she has been listening to them since inutero. My fiancé invited my exhusband and daughter because he knew it was a moment he would cherish also! We truly lived IN the moment!
    See, that's a great use of a camera at a concert. I have no problem with people snapping a quick photo, what bothers me is people who hold their camera in front of my face the entire time while they make a video they'll probably never watch.
    If I want to take a picture of something, be it a landmark or a concert, i will.
    Taking a picture is one thing, theres usually an idiot filming the whole show right in front of you. He'll upload it to youtube with shitty quality and shitty audio
    Phone cameras record live shows pretty well nowadays. People look for videos of gigs all the time, so they end up getting lots of views and ad revenue once they upload it. What, you thought they were there for the music? Doubt they know any of the songs.
    "Pretty well". Most phone cameras nowadays can record in 1080p and 60fps, but that doesn't necessarily mean the final result is good. Unless it has a decent sensor to handle the lightning effects without the result either become overexposed or way too dark, a good mic to record with decent quality the very loud sound and hardware image stabilisation to prevent shaky image, it'll just be full HD amateur crap like most live videos on YouTube. Sure, they still make money unfortunately, you're right on that matter. 
    Also, handheld phone cameras are unsteady, only have a digital zoom, and the bastard will hold it in portrait orientation.
    More often than not there's a dedicated filming crew recording the whole show from the best possible angles. I don't see the point in doing their job with devices 10 times as cheap as their equipment
    maybe quit recording albums then?  Kind of goes against your "Oral Tradition"!  Dumbass, be glad you have anyone showing up and paying to get in!
    I'm pretty sure that wasn't the point. He was talking about telling other people about the experience of going to the concert. Making live shows the only way for pw
    Sorry, I accidentally hit post early. I meant to say that making live shows the only way for people to hear your music is something completely different.
    "I embrace the storytelling - being able to describe to your friends  that, sitting around that fire after a good long day of hunting" Something bout a bunch of guys, alone, together in the woods. Seems kinda gay. 
    Alright alright, we'll buy the fuckin tickets tour more and go to lesser known venues and people will get more bang for their buck....stupid
    I took pictures of the concert with my phone, but I named a song "Enema" and we gave him the cd a couple years before Aenema when he came to I don't mind, I don't mind.
    A few pictures or a brief clip is fine. Recording a whole song or show is a total dick move to the people behind you. But so is going in wearing a full backpack or trying to push past when everyone is packed shoulder to shoulder... it's just another thing on the list of bad gig etiquette.
    how bout say look no camers cell phones etc you are wARNED IF WE SEE THEM WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE THEM   AND YOU CAN GET THEM AFTER THE SHOW
    Almost got in a fight with some jackass because he wouldn't put his phone light down at the San Bernardino show. He was holding it back towards the crowd to signal his location to a friend, in a crowd of 50,000 people. You can't make up this kind of stupid.