Trayvon Martin Honored by Bruce Springsteen

The Boss dedicated a song to the late teenager whose death and the resulting court case has divided America. Where do you stand on the Zimmerman case?

Trayvon Martin Honored by Bruce Springsteen
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Bruce Springsteen has become the latest in a line of artists to pay tribute to Trayvon Martin, with a dedication to him at a concert in Ireland last night.

Springsteen reportedly saw a sign requesting the song "American Skin (41 Shots)" at the show in Limerick when he took the banner and said this to the crowd: "I want to send this one out as a letter back home. For justice for Trayvon Martin," according to NME.

The song was originally written about the death of an immigrant called Amadou Diallo who was shot dead by four police officers in 1999, who were all acquitted.

The Trayvon Martin case has divided opinion in America and sparked a series of protests. For those who are unfamiliar with the story, George Zimmerman was accused of shooting the unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012. The specifics of what happened to Trayvon are unclear, but Zimmerman claims the boy confronted and attacked him, forcing him to shoot in self-defence. Zimmerman was acquitted of the crime at the weekend.

Where do you stand on the Zimmerman case? It's a hot topic, so keep your opinions measured so we can explore the debate in peace.

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    PrimalFeelings
    UG, don't ask us where we stand on the Zimmerman case, that's just asking for a shitstorm.
    ThatZachGuy
    They WANT a shitstorm. It keeps the site active.
    SGstriker
    I'll give them a shitstorm! -eats burrito- I'll see you in an hour... So sick of hearing about this Trayvon Martin bullshit.
    shwilly
    Lawl, those "oh boy, here comes the shitstorm" comments kinda remind me of my little brother at the christmas dinner table: "mommy, daddy, please don't fight over the turkey. In fact I like it slightly charcoaled, so can't we all get along?!" I mean yeah ThatZachGuy is right, bringing up topics like these, adding "SLAM" to every other headline, posting articles on whatever crazy sh*t Axl, Ted, Courtney or Gene decided to regurgitate this time... they're all cheap ways of raising site traffic. But if people get a good laugh out of 'em or actually manage to get involved in an honest discussion over stuff like this then who cares?
    joestrat5000
    I'm on nobody's side. None of us were there except for Zimmerman. And I didn't know things could happen at the weekend
    breakinslash
    So many people die daily and nobody gives a ****, but a hispanic (and not even white) kills a black guy and all hell breaks loose.
    squirttilithurt
    I'm tired of hearing about this case.
    qcollis
    UG is the last place i want to hear about this too.. Please stop internets, please! Everyone needs to move the heck on and worry about literally any other of the hundreds of more important issues out there now
    Sammy Mantis
    You as well as most of the rest of the world, but some people just want to keep pushing the issue because the verdict didn't fall in line with their personal politics.
    zn-1
    Let's talk about that royal baby coming!
    Quicksand15
    Right. If freedom and the fight against racism aren't important topics, then what is important? I feel nothing but ashamed that anyone could be "tired" of hearing about this. And I'm not saying Zimmerman is definately guilty, but there were several aspects in this case that shouldn't have been overlooked: Zimmerman ignoring advice to stop following Trayvon, alcohol test for Zimmerman etc. In addition and most importantly: noone ever should be prosecuted for walking the street anywhere in the world. Bob Dylan got detained recently for just walking around, too. What kind of world do we live in?
    goon316
    I think the only thing we can all agree on with this thing, is humans in general are WAY to quick to resort to violence!
    ehbacon
    this article doesn't mention that the police chased him into an ally and shot him 41 times because he reached into his pocket.
    KerNeL_KLuTcH
    Amadou Diallo was wrongly slaughtered Trayvon Martin attacked a guy who then shot him in self-defence, dedicating this sonf to Martin is like spitting on Diallo's grave.
    ibanez124
    I really don't give a shit about this case, never did. Secondly, why the hell did he say it in Ireland . . . do they even know the case or even give a shit themselves
    tylerthehedgeho
    I honestly don't care. I come here for music news and tabs, not to read about sell-out celebrities jumping on PR bandwagons.
    Slayer35
    If you ask me, the justice was that Zimmerman was found innocent, as he should have been. Time to move on. All this "Justice for Trayvon" is making me realize how stupid people are, one African American child dies and the media is all over it, talking about it day after day and people are in an uproar, a Caucasian child dies and the media either doesn't cover it, or they spend maybe 4 minutes talking about it before moving on.
    Snaggletooth369
    Do you know what the shame is? Only in America can a black kid stand trial for being the victim. Zimmerman followed him, not once identified himself as Neighborhood Watch captain, initiated the conflict, and killed Trayvon Martin because he started getting his ass whooped. Now, I agree that there wasn't much evidence to go on for a second degree murder conviction, but Zimmerman sure as hell should have gotten a Manslaughter conviction. His negligence got a kid killed. The ONLY reason it turned into a case of racism is because the defense spent their time painting Martin as some kind of thug that he was not! It's funny that they drug tested Martin right after the incident. You know, a lot of people are determined to see Martin as the aggressor, but they failed that Zimmerman had training in hand to hand combat and also had past aggressive crimes like punching a cop. But NO, the guy who fired the gun didn't get drug tested or arrested for 40 days. But yeah, I guess the justice was Zimmerman getting off. Pfft...
    HarvesterofPain
    Not to be argumentative, but most of the defense's case was about the fact that Zimmerman was being straddled and ground-and-pounded by Martin(in which case, self-defense lets Zimmerman shoot, because he is in fact in a life-threatening situation). They put a lot of witnesses up to attempt to verify it was him yelling "help" and for anyone who saw it to identify whether the person in the hoodie was on the bottom or the guy in the red shirt. They did touch on Martin's background a bit, but it wasn't their primary weapon. By the way, I'm not getting involved on either side, and my crack about this being made into a political agenda thing is my opinion, not a siding with Zimmerman. He never shoulda followed that kid. I'm saying though, that this was derailed by the media/politicians/all kinds of celebrities into looking like the most vicious hate crime of the decade(face facts, it wasn't).
    HarvesterofPain
    Like that 12 year old girl that was strangled to death by a pair of teenage boys for BMX bike parts? Those kinda stories don't push political agendas the right way, so of course they don't make the news.
    ToxXicSixString
    You won't recognize me. My name was Antonio West and I was the 13-month old child who was shot at point blank range by two teens who were attempting to rob my mother, who was also shot. A Grand Jury of my mommy's peers from Brunswick GA determined the teens who murdered me will not face the death penalty...too bad I was given a death sentence for being innocent and defenseless. My family made the mistake of being white in a 73% non-white neighborhood, but my murder was not ruled a Hate Crime. Nor did President Obama take so much as a single moment to acknowledge my murder. I am one of the youngest murder victims in our great Nation's history, but the media doesn't care to cover the story of my tragic demise, President Obama has no children who could possibly look like me - so he doesn't care and the media doesn't care because my story is not interesting enough to bring them ratings so they can sell commercial time slots. There is not a white equivalent of Al Sharpton because if there was he would be declared racist, so there is no one rushing to Brunswick GA to demand justice for me. There is no White Panther party to put a bounty on the lives of those who murdered me. I have no voice, I have no representation and unlike those who shot me in the face while I sat innocently in my stroller - I no longer have my life. So while you are seeking justice for Treyvon, please remember to seek justice for me too. Tell your friends about me, tell you families, get tee shirts with my face on them and make the world pay attention, just like you did for Treyvon. Thank you
    Vash_15
    I'm gonna put myself on the line here and ask what exactly he's being honored for. Being murdered? He wasn't an outstanding youth, he was far from a good, proactive kid. He wasn't a criminal by any means, just someone who got caught on the receiving end of a lunatic's agenda. I could see playing out to the justice system's failures or a distaste for Zimmerman, but I don't see what Trayvon actually did to receive any sort of honors in life.
    seance
    He's honored because, as you said, he was "just someone who got caught on the receiving end of a lunatic's agenda." As you yourself can see, that doesn't sit right with a lot of people.
    orion82698
    With all due respect, UG... this article isn't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on
    thf24
    It's very sad that a 17-year-old kid died and I feel for his family, but by all accounts, Trayvon Martin doesn't sound like an individual worthy of being honored. Anyway, how is this guitar news?
    dr718
    Springsteen-the voice of the working man who always advocates for higher taxes, while designating acres of his own property in New Jersey as agricultural, declaring he's a "bee farmer". Bon Jovi does the same thing. This guy is the very thing he railed against as a younger man-an elitist snob who tells everyone how to live but does the opposite himself.
    The_Dayman
    UG, I know this is how you entertain yourselves, but posting an article about this is unnecessary. I know very little about the Zimmerman case, so I won't speak about it, but come on. The guys who run UG probably had a party when they heard a famous rock star said something about this case, so they could report on it and get more clicks (of which I am now guilty of...).
    Face R1pper
    No man this is actually an intelligently planned satire. UG is helping explain to us the problem with American media, and showing how this incident would have never been publicized outside of Florida if the media didn't overreact and distort its meaning to promote their authoritarian agendas. This is probably the best political statement they have ever made.
    ewolf5150
    why am i not surprised springsteen is doing this. all he ever does is go along with whats popular. i bet if zimmerman was his kid he'd be singing a different tune. also, i wonder what his liberal pussy ass would say if zimmerman never had a gun to begin with. is he still so guilty in your celebrity eyes bruce? don't tell us how to think
    THE BULGE
    For me being Scottish I feel its not about 'Trayvon' the individual or demonising Zimmerman but seeing how the lack of gun control in USA is causing people to die. Even if you could argue he brought it upon himself death is so finite. It worries me because even trained officers and soldiers cannot be fully trusted or expected to be totally accurate with a gun so the average Joe including idiots can have a gun bewilders me. Although I have no answer or solution; too far gone.
    The_Wilrus
    I completely agree Bulge. The fact that anyone thinks more guns make things more safe need to look at this and say "what if *the accused* never had a gun to begin with?". Oh the kid would still be alive. 'Merica! Burgers and illegal/legal firearms kill more people in America a year than any of the big headline attacks have in the last 5 years.
    Face R1pper
    If Zimmerman didn't have a gun, Martin would have been free to beat him up without resistance, and possibly kill him. If you exclusively look at things in terms of life and death you can overlook the true problems.
    The_Wilrus
    Or he never would have been as bold to have done anything but sit and wait in his car. Everyone has a right to defend themselves but sometimes that defense is just using your head. Yet I can agree, like most, its truly a grey issue because most people are self entitled dillholes.
    Face R1pper
    That is a possibility, but it is one of many. All that is definite is that gun saved Zimmerman's life (or at least saved him from major injury) and anyone getting jumped and beat up the way he did would be thankful to have that gun. Unfortunately events like these are just things we have to live with. Gun control would influence these outcomes in one of two ways: legally obedient citizens are left defenseless, and criminals have easier access to guns along with the increase in vulnerable targets. Like I said, the real problem here is people who lack common sense and intelligence, which of course cannot be effectively solved either.
    Vypor
    The gun saved Zimmermans life from what exactly? Are people really arguring this 17 year old kid was intent on beating Zimmerman to death?! Is there even a motive for that? Less gun control means more guns on the streets for criminals to get ahold of. More gun control means gun are more expensive for criminals, and come with a higher liability. The argument that more gun control = more criminals with guns its highly illogical.
    oftenbanned.
    Zimmerman is guilty of being a jackass who exercised poor judgment. He was doing his civil duty by policing his neighborhood. He spotted someone who was acting suspicious and called 911. He reported it. The dispatcher advised him that he didn't need to follow Martin but he did anyway. Martian noticed Zimmerman following and ran. Zimmerman followed until he got out and confronted him. Martain showed poor judgement in attacking Zimmerman (keep in mind this is a teenager) This resulted in Zimmerman pulling his gun to defend himself. Based on Martin attacking him he was justified in using his gun. However, if the almost 30 yro man used good judgement and not confronted him after he was told he didn't have to he would have avoided this UNNECESSARY confrontation and 2 lives wouldn't have been destroyed. Both parties involved are not saints. they BOTH have history of violence and both showed bad judgment. One a teen...the other a grown man. Not about race but about poor judgment. To be honest The adult should have known better and martian needed an asswhoopin from his parents. I am black and I would never go thru an unknown neighborhood because this could have been me as well however, I am older and wiser Martian. Leave Zimmerman alone. He has to live with the decisions he has made.The ball is in his court to turn this tragedy into something that all Americans can learn from. The media is the media. Right wing or left, they will spin it to their agenda. In other words they are full of sh!t. Shame on Americans for letting the media spin you up! Crime were I grew up is big, there are killings everyday and the media doesn't cover it. but soon as a White/Hispanic man kills a black teen it's a major event. Some will say it's about race..some facts point to that but we will never know. Some will say it's about the Stand Your Ground Law, that law is there for a reason. I lived in Florida so I know why they have it. Like most laws, that have there intend but stupid, "line stepping", and manipulative ppl will always find a way to tarnish something implemented would good intentions... Sorry for the long rant but get over the Martian case. Ppl didn't care about black killings before the case. Don't act like you care now. And to all the raging African American ppl out there raging! Shame on you! Thanks for adding to the ignorance and the stereotypes that most ppl have about African Americans! Al Sharpton is not our leader! Neither is Jessie Jackson. I advise you to respectable Black ppl. I would start with BIll Cosby. Some will disagree with has to say because it's the truth! (Throws up flame Shield)
    Arcaobord
    I thank you from the bottom of my heart for being so reasonable. Thank you.
    cRACk mONKEyTTU
    Vypor- Its not that more gun control= more criminals with guns. More gun control= same amount of criminals with guns and law abiding citizens with no guns. You are missing the point of the argument on gun control. Criminals will always be able to get guns if they want them bad enough, more gun laws will just stop good people from having a weapon to defend themselves. As Face R1pper mentioned, the real problem is with people who lack common sense and intelligence, which seems to be widespread nowadays. oftenbanned makes many good points as well, this whole incident happened because of poor judgement which I think is attributed to lack of intelligence/ common sense. I dont think Zimmerman wanted or meant to kill him, but Trayvon should know better than to attack someone like he did. Both people used poor judgment and made a terrible decision which unfortunately cost someone their life, and ruined the others. It makes me sick that race is being brought into this and blowing this up. All the media is doing is just dividing this country even more so than before.
    christianonbass
    The people of Switzerland all own guns, 100% of them. How is their crime rate? Are you going to call me racist now? (Their murder rate is very low)
    MaTiMuS
    It's not that more gun control creates more criminals, it's the fact that law abiding citizens can't protect themselves from a criminal. A criminal will get a gun and kill/rob whether it is legal or not to have a gun. They are always going to commit the crime. It just stops the law abiding citizens from protecting themselves.
    suicidehummer
    The self defense argument is bullshit when you're ACTIVELY FOLLOWING and engaging someone for NO FUCKING REASON other than the way he looks. If anyone was defending themselves in this situation, it was Trayvon. The fact that there's even a debate over this shows how stupid most people are in this country...
    Face R1pper
    Zimmerman showed no aggression toward Martin. There is nothing wrong with following someone, especially when it is your job to stop people from trespassing in your gated community. Martin initiated aggression and therefore Zimmerman acted in self-defense. Stop being blinded by race and look at their actions instead.
    Kueller917
    I can get arguments against gun ownership, but isn't one at all. Unlike a mass murder or something, the gun played a very little role in this case. Had there been no gun the only thing that might have changed is the person who died. I'm not really a gun nut. I don't even own any and have no real intention to, but I still believe gun control has been way too politicized and exaggerated when it isn't as big of an issue as media on both ends has portrayed it. Being from Scotland, and myself having a lot of online friends from Europe, it's easy to assume everyone is just shooting themselves in the US from news portrayal, but there's always something else involved. In this case, as was mentioned above, it was poor judgment.
    suicidehummer
    Now just take that thought a little further... What happens when poor judgment and easy access to guns collide? You cant assume everyone is responsible enough to own a deadly weapon by default, up until they commit a crime. Not to mention the mentally ill having access to guns.
    thf24
    I don't care where you are in the world; if your mind is set on getting a gun, you can get one. The mentally ill included. Besides, in the United States, less than 2% of all gun crimes involve legal guns.
    Kueller917
    Well that's where practical regulation comes in. And I don't mean just making it hard to get guns, but rather having a system that will make sure you are fit to own one. Not everyone who has a gun will have good judgment with it, but then the same could be said with cars. Sure, cars have a more practical use which is why we let it slide, but it also becomes proportionate since bad judgment and driving has killed more people than bad judgment and a firearm.
    solidsnake530
    Completely agree. Living outside the US (Scotland as well!) gives you a perspective into the country that a lot of Americans just seem to insular to get. It's pretty obvious that the lack of any sort of decent gun control, while it isn't the sole factor in cases like these, I don't think Zimmerman would have a gun if the rules were tighter like here. In the developed world there really is no life or death reason for any member of public to own a gun.
    thf24
    "Lack of any sort of decent gun control"? The city of Chicago has extremely strict gun control laws, yet it has one of the highest violent crime and murder rates in the United States. Explain that one. And explain how Switzerland has one of the world's lowest gun crime rates despite having one of the world's highest guns per capita. Violent crime isn't a gun problem; it's a culture problem.
    suicidehummer
    Because it's surrounded by the rest of America, where even the mentally ill can buy a gun. It's not hard to cross state lines...
    thf24
    You couldn't carry a rifle around a city for very long without getting caught, and it's pretty hard to buy a handgun legally anywhere. And if buying guns was illegal everywhere, the problem would go away, right? Because hard drugs are illegal and it's impossible to get those, right? I'm still waiting for an explanation about Switzerland.
    solidsnake530
    Switzerland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, and the majority of these are caused by guns. So Americans shoot each other, Swiss people shoot themselves.
    MaTiMuS
    Why do the rotting cities with complete gun control have the worst crime statistics? Areas with law abiding citizens owning guns have lower crime. IT'S A FACT. Look at the FBI's numbers.
    Face R1pper
    There is too much gun control in this country, but that is not even the issue here. Some people are unintelligent or just lack common sense, and when they come in contact with each other there is a risk of unfortunate consequences like in this case.
    ibanez124
    The average person reads at a 5th grade level, and functions about the same