Trivium Frontman: 'Nu Metal's Making a Comeback, It's Weird'

"You can see a lot of hardcore and deathcore bands playing nu metal riffs," says Matt Heafy.

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Discussing the impact of the nu metal genre, Trivium frontman Matt Heafy noted that the style is making a comeback these days, resulting in frequent use of nu metal riffs among modern metal acts.

Chatting with Honda inside the company's latest Civic car, Matt was asked on whether nu metal proved as a good or a bad thing for metal. "What's really weird is that nu metal's making a comeback right now. You can see a lot of hardcore bands and deathcore bands all playing nu metal riffs," he replied.

"And now there are DJs making their ways back into hardcore bands and metal bands, it's strange," the frontman continued. "You'll start to notice it more and more at festivals that there's a lot more bands that are making comebacks from the '90s. So nu metal's making its way back. It's not making it's way into our sound by any means, but it's making its way back."

The interview revolved around Matt being played a certain tune to get the ball rolling towards a certain topic. Check out the clip below to see Heafy discussing his early pop punk days, giving support to his "fellow yellows" and more.

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    I don't know. Maybe because it's catchy while still retaining a rebellious attitude and is a great cross over genre. But hey I guess because it's not 'true metal' people will shit on the idea.
    technical 80s progressive obscure garage recorded demo black death metal ftw everything else is just a toy
    You missed out the preceding "proto", if it's not proto, it's not original enough.
    Totally agreed, i pretty much love Deftones,Korn,Tool,Drowning Pool,Mudvayne,Disturbed,Stone Sour.
    Tool is definitely not nu metal and I think Deftones did a good job distancing themselves from that genre and have their own sound now. I do love some old Mudvayne and Korn as well
    Deftones definitely have their own sound going from them, and it's ****ing awesome.
    I didn't really think of it that way, but now that he mentions it... he's right. Even linkin parks new song is more in the direction of the older days when nu-metal was the shit.
    I'm not ashamed to say I loved Mudvayne, Ryan Martinie's bass parts were pretty awesome, and I listened to Korn, Godsmack, Disturbed, etc. I'll still listen to them occasionally, but it's pretty safe to say I've just grown out of the genre. It's funny now how many people shit on nu-metal when I know for a fact they used to love listening to it when they were younger. Now that it's considered uncool everyone pretends they always hated all nu-metal, meanwhile they can still recite the lyrics to Freak on a Leash
    Ryan Martinie is one of the greatest bassists around =p And don't be ashamed to say it, the majority of nu-metal bands are very influential and important in their own rights. I've heard many band memebers say that they have been influenced by Slipknot, Korn, etc. And those bands have written classic tunes, the hate for the genre just confuses me..
    I totally agree! It's strange how people hate on nu-metal or deathcore or other ostensibly heavy genres but yet totally understand if you like say, indie, or techno
    Say what you want about KoRn, their 90s output came straight from the heart. A person doesn't actually have to like the sound, but they can't deny that their 90s music was honest as it gets.
    You know what? I really hate this elitist view that somehow nu metal isn't metal. It's got the crunchy riffing and the heavy beats and-- depending on the vocalist-- there can be so much fury and passion expressed that can match any "true" metal song. I got my start in metal by listening to bands like Drowning Pool and Godsmack. From there, I branched out into other genres. I may not listen to nu metal near as much now, but I still love it. Otep might currently be my favorite band in the genre.
    NuMetal is metal. It's just that, like all movements, there tended to be a lot of really, really bad copycat bands. NuMetal had that a bit more than movements like Black Metal or Thrash, though.
    Of course it's metal. I don't particularly like the genre, but what the hell else are we supposed to call it? This "I don't like it, so it's not metal" mentality is stupid. I don't like Slayer either, you don't hear me saying they're not metal, lest a fan carves their name into my chest.
    Emenius Sleepus
    But the song structure and the actual riffs aren't metal riffs, for most part - with some exceptions. "Fury" and "passion" aren't exclusively metal attributes either Most nu-metal is a heavier take on hard rock, plus whatever electronic and/or urban beats, textures and so on they incorporate into the music. And to top it off - how is the fact that most of it isn't metal suddenly relevant to whether you like it or not? Unless you just feel bad that your music taste is not as 'tough' as you thought it was?
    Black Sabbath was a heavier take on hard rock, guess what we decided to call it?
    Second Rate
    You know Sabbath are not the originators of Heavy Metal, correct? They may have had an influence on the lyrical imagery, but in terms of the overall sound of Heavy Metal.... it owes many more stylistic debts to Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, and even the heavier end of Progressive Rock than it does to Black Sabbath. As for Nu Metal.... Nu Metal is the combination of the heavier side of 90s alternative rock with the more commercial end of hip hop. I've said it before, I'll say it again, the only stylistic similarity Nu Metal has to Heavy Metal or "true" Metal is distorted guitar sounds. That's not enough to make it Metal. If distorted guitars are the only standard, then such bands as Yes, Supertramp, The Cars, Mahavishnu Orchestra, and Sex Pistols would also be metal.
    So you're saying that bands like Godsmack and Slipknot aren't metal? What about Machine Head?
    If theres any band out there that should be credited for influencing the overall sound of metal, its Black Sabbath. Sure, Deep Purple and Zeppelin were big infuences as well, but Sabbath was the band that really pushed the boundaries of hard rock into what became heavy metal. Also, distorted guitars are not the only common characteristic nu metal and other metal genres share. Nu metal utilizes palm muting, power chords, melodic singing, syncopated riffs, death growls, minor key signitures, screaming, tremolo picking, double bass drum, alternate tunings, as well as note structures that are typically found in metal. Sure, it has influences from hip-hop, funk, and alternative rock, but it is a genre of metal dude. I don't like the majority of nu metal bands either, other than deftones, mudvayne, and SOAD, but it is still metal.
    Cool interview format by the way. Enjoyed it!
    Absolutely. It was kind of relaxing. And as a German I didn't have to cringe as much as when other Germans speak English. Heafy is a cool guy. Seems very down to earth.
    Some of the riffs are catchy, I give you that... but the breakdowns are BAAAD
    Aren't they usually on a single note?
    Matt Heafy seems super dull - in this interview anyway. As for nu metal, very fond memories for me, so I'm not bothered if those kind of riffs are making a comeback! I like the percussive style. I like how he avoided sharing any kind of opinion on nu metal as the question asked though, very tactful.