Lars Ulrich Smashes Dave Mustaine

In the exlusive interview, conducted by the band's official fan club magazine So What! editor Steffan Chirazi, Lars Ulrich talked about the Megadeth mainman.

Lars Ulrich Smashes Dave Mustaine
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Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich has been exclusively interviewed by the band's official fan club magazine So What! editor Steffan Chirazi. The chat, which was conducted in September 2005, was published in the magazine's latest issue, which was recently sent out to the band's fan club. An excerpt from the interview, obtained by Blabbermouth.net, follows:
  • So What!: We should address the Dave Mustaine [Megadeth mainman, ex-Metallica guitarist] issues which have repeatedly come up. It irritated you to a great degree at one point on the tour, to the point where I think you considered for the first time in 20 years stepping off the high ground and throwing a volley of shit back at Dave. Why do you think this continues to come from him? Are you, as we sit here, at peace with the fact that Dave is, shall we say, an idiosyncratic person? Do you feel sorry for him? Or do you think it's lame that this guy keeps on popping up, like 20 years later, and bitching about a life that is actually rather good as a consequence of his work with you? Lars: I talked about it quite a bit towards the end of the tour. And my thoughts haven't changed much. I was saddened by the fact that his views on 'Some Kind of Monster' [Metallica's documentary about the making of their last album, 'St. Anger', in which Mustaine makes a brief appearance] were as extreme as they were, because I still say today that those moments in the film were incredibly strong and incredibly emotional and powerful. And I'm certainly proud of my part in that. I'm a little perplexed by his reaction, but also a little mistrusting of it? because he wasn't able to follow through on that kind of openness in front of whoever he feels he has to serve. And I felt that was just a pity. One could certainly argue that all of the shit that went down in the wake of it summarizes the different places that we are in, how we view our careers, just who we are, and so on.
  • When he was speaking up and out, why did you just not get him on the phone and say, "Look, dude, what the f--k's the problem?" And why does that not happen? I mean, why could that not happen? I don't know, man. I think I divorced myself from it emotionally. You were around at the height of all that stuff, and like I pointed out at the time, [there's] a funny parallel between Dave Mustaine's Metalli-bashing and the releasing of a new record of his. So there's this weird thing that's kind of sad and pathetic that, X percentage of the press around a new Megadeth release simply becomes about Metallica, which is, you know, sad and pathetic. But also, if you put it in perspective and still look at a couple of factual things, remember that the guy was in our band for just around a year.
  • Wow. When you put it like that? ?there's two more. He was in our band for about a year. Before we released our first record ? he's never played on a Metallica record. Okay, that's number two. It was 22 years ago. That's number three ? okay? So put those three facts down, he was in our band for a year. He never played on a Metallica record, and it was 22 years ago. It's pretty absurd that it still can be that big a deal. I mean, to me, that's just f--king mind-boggling to the f--king highest degree. There was one other thing that happened, which was that in the wake of Dime's [late Pantera/Damageplan guitarist 'Dimebag' Darrell Abbott] untimely and tragic death obviously, a year ago, when Dave kind of ?
  • We're reffering to the Pantera guitar player. Yeah, when Dave, one day, two or three after Dime was killed, did kind of a 180 and said something like, 'I regret everything I've ever said bad about anybody,' and basically extended an olive branch or peace offering to everyone. And I was sitting there thinking, 'That's all well and good, but it's really f--ked up that it takes a tragedy like someone dying in order for that to come up in you.' And what happened was, on the back side of that, I pretty much divorced myself from him emotionally and to be totally honest with you, Dave Mustaine hasn't really registered on my meter in the last nine months. I thought there was a pathetic element to that, like, you know, 'Now the heavy metal community must stand in unison,' and so on. And I appreciate that on the surface, but why the f--k does it take the tragic death of somebody like Dime in order for us to band together?! We should all band together, all of us, always, in the rock community. Do you know what I mean? So since then I've been emotionally disconnected from Dave. Now, as you're well aware, in a moment of boredom on an airplane from A to B, at some point just about a year ago right now when his last record came out, as you are well aware because you read it, I sat down and wrote him a letter that I was contemplating publishing on some of the fine Internet gossip services that we all have available at our reach. And I decided not to, but it was certainly fun writing it. Thanks for the info to Blabbermouth.net.
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      bringitsukka
      dave cant sing! the first time i heard megadeth i thought they were a german band cuz of the name! what a ****er!
      jasonhutchcraft
      dude, im so sick of hearing this "mustaine and friedman own metallica" shit. you really want that kind of garbage ruining ultimate-guitar? lets put it this way- Master of Puppets> Megadeths hole ****ing career past present and future.... lots of people flame metallica for st anger ,but hell, the damn album went double platinum, so somebody bought it. and did you watch the dvd that came with st anger? Frantic is not an easy song to play, and neither is St. Anger for that matter. I agree with the dude that said mustaine's voice was lame, it is. and lets not forget who plays riffs, solos, singing, bass, and everything else better, time in and time out. metallica, thats who. thats why when people say legends, they mean Metallica, when they say imitators, you know they mean megadeth. God, megadeth seriously are not as good as metallica, if you think this, you are deaf. bytheway, mustaine has red hair, and that immediately makes him homosexual.
      badbrad
      none of that is why i like music.... and all of that make s me feel like im wasting my time (to an extent) with both bands...
      thefinalcut
      DaveMustaine wrote: Slow news day eh UG? So slow in fact that you need to pick up the old Mustaine vs. Ulrich story yet again? Look, we wouldn't hear half the shit we get from both of the bands if the ****ing reporters would just leave the ****ing topic alone. Goddamn, I mean seriously. And yes Mustaine is a better guitar player than Hammet and yes Jason Newsted is a better singer than Hetfield and Mustaine.
      Wholy shit, Mustaine posts on UG! : )
      RENEGADE8
      Before you tear this comment to shreds, think about it and understand why it's true... You can never compare 'who is a better guitarist' from records. Because, the best guitarist in the world could be some stupid little emo kid who can't shred in his band's songs because it wouldn't fit the style. Or, Kirk Hammett could play this absolutely fantastic solo in one song, but when he goes to record it, he also records a more simplified version of the solo and after playing it back finds that 'less is more' for this particular song, and hence uses a more simplified version. I guess the point I'm trying make is that a lot of guitarists aren't going to show their full potential on a record, because of other factors, while at other times guitarists will go their full potential (often at the expense of the whole song) to show-off their skills. This makes it impossible to compare guitarists from albums, so anyone looking to say... "Mustaine owns Hammett any day of the year" should read this post before they do so.
      kinghate69
      ...yeah i know he wasnt speaking in this article, but something tells me he's at home curled up on his little pink race car bed in a room that has "What have I done?" and "I wish I was Metallica" spray painted all over the place, whining and bitching and talking like elmer fudd.
      Hovertruck
      I'm not going to read every comment here, so to sum up all of my points: -Mustaine hasn't been shit talking Metallica lately. I think Lars is in the wrong here. -Face it. Mustaine and Friedman are miles ahead of Hetfield and Hammett. -Megadeth's music is just much more enjoyable to me. For some reason, I love Mustaine's voice over Hetfield's.
      Kendawg4TooL
      Fuck Lars. Mustaine has stayed true to his word since Dime died. I can't believe that little bitch would bring this back up again? Plus he acts like Mustaine has never tried to let go. There have been plenty of times where Mustaine tried to say sorry or just have a truce but Lars is the one who would always deny it or turn it around. Lars is incredibly stubborn. Mustaine may have had an ongoing grudge with them but Lars could have settled this a long time ago if he would have just got off his ****ing high horse and accepted one of Daves many pledges of a truce. Like the most recent after Dime passed where he doesn't want any more dispute and he just want to be at peace with everybody. That was it! he was ready to realy let it go and he has. But Lars won't accept that, in a cheap attempt to get attention he tries to turn it around and says "uuuhhh, well why do you have to wait till someone dies? duuuhh uhhh... pathetic!" Which is totally ****ing senseless! What the **** is he trying to say!? That all the years that Dave has resented him is the reason for Dimes death or what!? Lars is the pathetic human being. He only waits for Mustaine to open up and become vunerable with his offerings of peace and then boom! He takes that opportunity to make him look like an ass. FUCK YOU LARS, YOUR THE ONE WHOSE HOLDING THE GRUDGE NOW. FOCUS ON THE MUSIC!
      the_clairvoyant
      why is mustaine better than kirk??? i just dont see it!!!!! yea sure u hate metallica , but mustaine is NOT better guitarst than kirk hammett NOT BY A LONGGGGG SHOT ,
      realiztik
      I like this whole "BIASED" thing. I thought it was kind of funny that all these people were so offended... Maybe they didn't realize it was .. uhh.. METALLICA'S Fanzine!! F*cking Mustaine fans... always gotta gripe!! For that matter... F*cking Mustaine!!!
      sprouticus
      jasonhutchcraft wrote: dude, im so sick of hearing this "mustaine and friedman own metallica" shit. you really want that kind of garbage ruining ultimate-guitar? lets put it this way- Master of Puppets> Megadeths hole ****ing career past present and future.... lots of people flame metallica for st anger ,but hell, the damn album went double platinum, so somebody bought it. and did you watch the dvd that came with st anger? Frantic is not an easy song to play, and neither is St. Anger for that matter. I agree with the dude that said mustaine's voice was lame, it is. and lets not forget who plays riffs, solos, singing, bass, and everything else better, time in and time out. metallica, thats who. thats why when people say legends, they mean Metallica, when they say imitators, you know they mean megadeth. God, megadeth seriously are not as good as metallica, if you think this, you are deaf. bytheway, mustaine has red hair, and that immediately makes him homosexual.
      this guy is the fu*king man and this is wat ill atempt to say here but in my way... ye well screw everyone i love METALLICA and mustaine is a sad old man and i hate megadeath and james hetfield is the bomb and i think he is better than mustaine and friedman and fu*k me hammet rules mustaine and is a far better guitarist. and i think lars is so right and dimebags death shouldnt brough him to say that he shud of stopped slaging people off years ago who is METALLICA now james,kirk,robert and lars who do millions and millions of people suport METALLICA so everybody who doesnt like them can go shuv MEGADEATH UP THER ASS'S!!!!! thanx xxx oh and KEEP ROCKING METALLICA I LOVE U GUYS XXX
      GreGus
      the guy who interviewed lars hates mustaine, how fecking wrong is that? WHO WAS DIMEBAG DARREL????? - flippin' heck! the best metal gtrist to have ever lived (ex-pantera, damageplan) RIP!
      YarlA
      metallicafan180 wrote: They need to just move on with their lives and put this situation, which has been going on for over 20 years, behind them. Mustaine tried to apologize to Lars last year, but I guess that's just not good enough for him. And now he's dragging Dimebag Darrell into this. Lars is such an *****. So what if Dave decided to apologize after his death.
      Who was DImebag DaRReL? Was he the huge Van Halen fan or was it sum other dimebag?
      napalm_scum
      Stop frigin comparing one guitarist to another. They all do their own thing? To the people saying Megadeth are immitators of Metallica, well maybe thats because when Mustaine was kicked from Metallica he wanted to get back at them and outdo them at what they were trying to do. He didnt want to go down without a fight. I like both Metallica and Megadeth, they are both awesome. If Mustaine wasnt kicked from Metallica then they probably would not be the same band they are today. Go play guitar and maybe you will be better than Metallica and Megadeth. Then we will compare you to them but untill then stop your whining and SHUT THE FUCK UP.
      Matt_Malmsteen
      That is all really childish, I think Mustaine and Metallica as an entirity should all STFU and stop bitching at each other, 22 ****ing years ago, surely they can put it behind them. Also that interview was all biased and posed to make Lars say things about Mustaine, so the interviewer should be beaten with a javelin. And for the record Mustaine owns Hammet..easily
      Matt_Malmsteen
      And to add I like both metallica and megadeth and as much as everyone says you shouldn't compare guitarist blah blah...if you listen Mustaine simply has better technique.
      napalm_scum
      rock_or_roll: oh well said buddy...i h8 it when guitarists show off on every song...it gets very tedious
      To much can be over the top sometimes. Have a look at Larry LaLonde of Primus. Hes got talent but lets Les take over the songs most of the time with the Bass. No one is compared to them because no one really sounds like them. Jerry Was A Race Car Driver has a pretty good guitar solo in it.
      rock_or_roll
      RENEGADE8: Before you tear this comment to shreds, think about it and understand why it's true... You can never compare 'who is a better guitarist' from records. Because, the best guitarist in the world could be some stupid little emo kid who can't shred in his band's songs because it wouldn't fit the style. Or, Kirk Hammett could play this absolutely fantastic solo in one song, but when he goes to record it, he also records a more simplified version of the solo and after playing it back finds that 'less is more' for this particular song, and hence uses a more simplified version. I guess the point I'm trying make is that a lot of guitarists aren't going to show their full potential on a record, because of other factors, while at other times guitarists will go their full potential (often at the expense of the whole song) to show-off their skills. This makes it impossible to compare guitarists from albums, so anyone looking to say... "Mustaine owns Hammett any day of the year" should read this post before they do so.
      oh well said buddy...i h8 it when guitarists show off on every song...it gets very tedious
      'less is more'
      my favourite saying
      Styx
      Yep i agree with the fact that almost all the guys that are supporting Metallica now nothing at all about em!Anyway Mustaine kicks Hammett ass!Robert sucks and Lars plays the same thing in all the albums but diferent song so basically it sucks too!
      les_paul_01
      whenever this conversation pops up (which is too damn often anyway) remember that one band has sold around 100 million albums and another has sold about a 20th of that (well thats all i can remember). on top of that, the second band feature a singer, guitarist who cant sing, and continues whining about an event that happened twenty years ago, not to mention a lineup that changes completely once every 2 years.
      sprouticus
      jasonhutchcraft wrote: dude, im so sick of hearing this "mustaine and friedman own metallica" shit. you really want that kind of garbage ruining ultimate-guitar? lets put it this way- Master of Puppets> Megadeths hole ****ing career past present and future.... lots of people flame metallica for st anger ,but hell, the damn album went double platinum, so somebody bought it. and did you watch the dvd that came with st anger? Frantic is not an easy song to play, and neither is St. Anger for that matter. I agree with the dude that said mustaine's voice was lame, it is. and lets not forget who plays riffs, solos, singing, bass, and everything else better, time in and time out. metallica, thats who. thats why when people say legends, they mean Metallica, when they say imitators, you know they mean megadeth. God, megadeth seriously are not as good as metallica, if you think this, you are deaf. bytheway, mustaine has red hair, and that immediately makes him homosexual.
      this guy is the fu*king man and this is wat ill atempt to say here but in my way... ye well screw everyone i love METALLICA and mustaine is a sad old man and i hate megadeath and james hetfield is the bomb and i think he is better than mustaine and friedman and fu*k me hammet rules mustaine and is a far better guitarist. and i think lars is so right and dimebags death shouldnt brough him to say that he shud of stopped slaging people off years ago who is METALLICA now james,kirk,robert and lars who do millions and millions of people suport METALLICA so everybody who doesnt like them can go shuv MEGADEATH UP THER ASS'S!!!!! thanx xxx oh and KEEP ROCKING METALLICA I LOVE U GUYS XXX
      Wolfhound
      Surely Ron McGoveny and Lloyd Grant have reasons to moan about Metallica, not Dave Mustaine. At least Dave had a career in a famous metal band after Metallica.
      Hammett88
      Metallica rock, but I must say from this coversation, I can see that at least half the posts that are in support of Metallica are little 12 year old shits that are trying to look cool...
      fireoptic
      Lars has definetly got a good point about the Dime thing.. Dave has to get over the fact that HE HAD HIS TIME to clean up and he didn't.. He knew he was out of hand, and he did nothing about it. I'm glad he got tossed from Metallica.. Two great bands for the price of one! Metallica and Megadeth. I hope they make up and go on tour with each other! Who cares whos better than who? Hammett and Mustaine are both great guitarists.. They both write awesome solos, and that's all that counts, right? Gotta give Mustaine creds for rhythm parts and lyrics though! Hammett's not too involved in things other than lead.. but that's alright! Stop busting Kirks balls so much guys.. Once you can play as good and accurately as Kirk, then badmouth him. And don't say your better than him, becuase he plays those solos flawlessly 99% of the time on tour in front of huge audiences.. i'd like to see you do that. Kirk keeps his mouth shut, hes a good guy.. He's not into spitting shit at other people like Dave is.. I've got tons of interviews where Dave says "KIRK HAMMETT SUCKS, METALLICA SUCKS!" If you don't believe me, download the Bootleg of Megadeth's first gig. Dave started it. Think about it.. I still love Megadeth and Metallica regardless.
      napalm_scum
      but "better than" would waste too much of their precious time they could be using to badmouth bands
      Hammett88
      I love Metallica,don't get me wrong, they're my favorite, but I badly wish for Mustaine to shove his guitar up Lars' ass.
      Hammett88
      Mustaie baried the hatchet with Metallica, but when he spoke about his feelings, saying that he always felt number 2, that metallica were always better and that he wishes that he'd still be with them, and than that shit Lars just publishd it without "seeing" how those kind of things would impact Megadeth fans when their hero says that Metallica are better and shit.
      sparx109
      yh mustaine mayb a good guitarist but hammett obviously owns him, i mean hammmet can shred n all that shit, mustaines ok at guitarin, but he aint better than hammett, ive listened n compared both the bands, adn as for those people whp are saying metallica sold out and all thsi shit...GET OVER IT!!!! they went on to be a great band and if they sold out they wud b livin off the royalties of their old stuff n not botherin with nu material...but they r workin on new material aint they!? so sit down, keep ya mouths shut n leave metallica 2 do their thing, and this last bit is to the people who just come on her to slate off a band for the sake of it...gorw up u bitter twat n try n do it better if u think ur so great!
      rock_or_roll
      HellrzngPinhead: Wow, no stupid SellouticA comment yet? No witty association to the assumption that Metallica sold out and product placement?
      lol yer i thought something was missing
      satanic_cigar
      Eh, I don't know if they ever sold out, but they did cut their hair and say metal was dead. That's kinda craptacular.
      _roadkill_
      WHO CARES!!!METALLICA AND MEGADETH BOTH ROCKS!!mustaine and ulrich are both great musicians.Stop letting yourfelf being brainwashed by stupid media interviews!!!
      a real DEAD one
      Mustaine is so better than metallica, only a real guitarist and muci lover could notice it. Metallica has no variety and they are jackasses. Mustaine is a living God, he deserves respect, I dont care what you think. Lars is a bitch and Mustaine could break his face anyday.
      xCompanyCalls
      lars is a bitch. he needs to learn to keep seated while he drums. and to get out of the same time signature.
      Nirvana101
      Dave hasn't been bashing metallica at all for a long time. Fuck lars, I like metallica but lars is a goof after he went bald haha. Megadeth is much better but metallica would still be just as good if Cliff was still in it.
      ~A7x~
      well, To me MetallicA have always been a really good band but have just been there, not until lately have they really stood out and ive started playing some of their stuff, i used to like megadeth HEAPS, more than metallica for sure, then i watched Metallicas Some Kind Of Monster DVD, and Dave Mustaine is a childish ****, he made such a big deal over it all and he was acting so immature, he is a really good guitarist and I respect that, I still like some of Megadeth's music but after watching that movie, I dont really like Megadeth that much anymore.... appreciate the good music but honestly cant sing for shit and Dave Mustaine...hate that kid..seeya
      masticore
      i don't get it... both metallica and mustaine(megadeth) became big after the split... they really should be thankful for that... i'm just wondering what would've happened when mustaine stayed on... they both rocked!
      stars_n_bars
      why the **** cant we get along...metal should unite us, not start little bitch fights amongst us...i dont know, it just saddens me
      xgrindcorex
      kud666 wrote: mustain don't own kirk on guiutar, mustain is shit fair enough hammett can only do solos in "E" but there much better than ANYTHING dave mustain has ever done. end of!!!!! ( ALEXI LAIHO IS BETTER THAN BOTH OF THEM ANYWAY)
      haha, i take it your new to music?
      xgrindcorex
      Dave Mustaine is much better than kirk hammet. end of discussion. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
      xgrindcorex
      jimmypage989 wrote: Mustaine needs to give up trying to trash Metallica. Megadeth's a great band but Metallica will always be better.
      haha, that made me giggle.
      metaljunkie
      i am a megadeth ***** and i am totally for mustaine and against metallica. when everyone says their peace they try to be a good guy. if some biased guy interviewed mustaine it would be the same way, so the only way to settle this is to have a whole forgive and forget. i say whats done is done and both should start putting out some good music again, like peace sells and master of puppets
      Metallica12_12
      JesusHat wrote: sparx109 wrote: yh mustaine mayb a good guitarist but hammett obviously owns him, i mean hammmet can shred n all that shit, mustaines ok at guitarin, but he aint better than hammett, ive listened n compared both the bands I'm sorry, but most of the half-assed solos by Hammett shouldn't be considered shred. He drenches them in tons of distortion and wah-wah. And please, learn proper grammar and punctuation.
      Omg yes Mustaine is a far better guitarist but who give a ****. I was one of the biggest metallica fans right up until i had played guitar for a year, then I realized that neither metallica or megadeth are all that great.. So stop paying attention to them and they can go down as Metal "Greats". Last Post for metallicamanic12_12 changing account.
      xCompanyCalls
      alexi lahio's music revolves around the same concept. he is skilled, ill have to say that. but that band needs a singer, i hate not being able to understand everything but the swear words.